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Post by arzjake on Jul 28, 2013 18:04:19 GMT -5
Attended the Lowell vs. Ct Tigers game Saturday the 27th. TStankiewicz in two short innings of work was perfect. Fastball sat between 88-92 with excellent movement. Tigers were overmatched at the plate.
I believe Stankiewicz is pitching far below the Level he should be. Definite man amongst boys.
Joe Gunkel was perfect for two innings as well. Excellent off speed stuff with a high 80's fastball. He to, looked as if hew should be pitching at a higher level..
MMargot not in the lineup the entire 3 game series?
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Post by njsox on Jul 28, 2013 19:05:29 GMT -5
Attended the Lowell vs. Ct Tigers game Saturday the 27th. TStankiewicz in two short innings of work was perfect. Fastball sat between 88-92 with excellent movement. Tigers were overmatched at the plate. I believe Stankiewicz is pitching far below the Level he should be. Definite man amongst boys. Joe Gunkel was perfect for two innings as well. Excellent off speed stuff with a high 80's fastball. He to, looked as if hew should be pitching at a higher level.. MMargot not in the lineup the entire 3 game series? These guys are only pitching at the current level to get some exposure to routines and to build arm strength. Their assignments and production next year will be much more telling. |
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Post by templeusox on Jul 28, 2013 21:14:48 GMT -5
The first-hand report is appreciated though.
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Post by ewan25 on Jul 29, 2013 6:23:44 GMT -5
nice to hear that stank is looking good since so many people thought we took him too early and we reached on him i really like him as a prospect
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jul 29, 2013 6:56:26 GMT -5
I heard he is very advanced for his age. He might be ready for Greenville or even Salem.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2013 8:20:24 GMT -5
nice to hear that stank is looking good since so many people thought we took him too early and we reached on him i really like him as a prospect I'm pretty sure everyone was ok with the pick once they popped Denney in the third round. |
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 29, 2013 8:26:14 GMT -5
My expectations for Stank are probably too high, which I will admit is solely based on his name. In 6 years from now I just want to be able to say "He's got that Stanky fastball" and "Today he's throwing that Stanky stuff" and...well you get the idea.
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Post by dd on Jul 29, 2013 16:44:28 GMT -5
My expectations for Stank are probably too high, which I will admit is solely based on his name. In 6 years from now I just want to be able to say "He's got that Stanky fastball" and "Today he's throwing that Stanky stuff" and...well you get the idea. There's a serious downside for him on that basis though. |
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Post by ewan25 on Jul 29, 2013 18:06:45 GMT -5
yeah once we got denney signed people liked it more but there were still some people that thought we shouldve taken someone else i was happy with the pick though
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Post by jmei on Jun 9, 2014 12:48:43 GMT -5
Baseball Prospectus' Ethan Purser has a short scouting report on Stankiewicz out today. Here's an excerpt: He also briefly describes his secondary stuff, calling his 79-84 mph slider his best secondary pitch (with above-average potential) while noting that he also throws a low-80s changeup (which flashes potential but was not thrown much during this outing) and a loopy low-70s curveball that Purser suggests "will not be a weapon at the major-league level." |
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Post by soxfan1615 on Sept 3, 2014 6:46:28 GMT -5
Teddy Stankiewicz came into the year looking like a very good prospect, and he seems to have dropped a lot, completely unfairly, I'm guessing because of a slow start. A slump at the beginning of the year looks like a bigger deal than it actually is, and Teddy has actually had a very solid season with a 3.72 ERA and 3.63 FIP. Does anybody have scouting reports on him this year?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 3, 2014 9:07:57 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's behind a junkballer like Diaz a 30yr old knuckleballer and a relief prospect like Hembree. He's 7 months older than Trey Ball and had a significantly better season on the same team.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 3, 2014 9:15:07 GMT -5
It is a little surprising. He has had a very solid first full-season. Really looking forward to how he starts out in Salem in 2015. He really seems to have a nice feel for pitching and throws strikes. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a slight uptick on his velocity either. He is one to watch closely. The staff in Greenville was definitely a real young one, and there were lots of "bumps" for guys like Ball and Callahan (and several others), but Stank stayed consistent.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 3, 2014 12:41:48 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's behind a junkballer like Diaz a 30yr old knuckleballer and a relief prospect like Hembree. He's 7 months older than Trey Ball and had a significantly better season on the same team. Not to nit-pic your general concept but Diaz has the highest average velocity of the starters in Portland and maintains his velocity throughout his outings. He's stretching out his innings but just recently had a 105 pitch game where he was hitting 93-94 after 100 pitches. He's only 22, junkballer is not his M.O. EDIT: Rodriguez is probably faster. I do however think that Stank has fallen between the cracks quite a bit but specific rankings can be expressed in the meta forum. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 21, 2015 15:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by raftsox on Mar 21, 2015 21:27:55 GMT -5
Wait...what? Reminds me of that old UFC fighter tra something. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 24, 2015 10:07:14 GMT -5
"Wait...what?" was also literally my reaction. That's... strange.
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 24, 2015 10:26:36 GMT -5
I thought I read it wrong. How can he even pitch - it's his right pec. Is he still missing a right pectoral muscle?
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Post by klostrophobic on Mar 24, 2015 10:51:22 GMT -5
Gives him better range of motion not having a pesky muscle impeding his delivery.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 24, 2015 11:28:23 GMT -5
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 24, 2015 11:49:47 GMT -5
He better be REALLY good at the "talent competition" because he is going to really suck at the swimsuit competition!
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Post by cologneredsox on Mar 2, 2016 8:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 2, 2016 8:46:21 GMT -5
While he has some potential I thought this was a little exaggerated and optimistic -
[If Stank] "can replicate his successes from 2014 and 2015 at the Double-A level, he may find himself in the top-10 of the Red Sox prospect rankings heading into 2017."
According to the author, his successes were durability, lack of walks, a few game where he put it all together, and ok stats. In order to move into the top 10, he really need to improve on those successes. Better K numbers, for example. Better GB%. He's a decent potential #4/#5 starter if he keeps developing. Unless the Sox trade away a couple guys ahead of him, however, I think he is likely to be traded away. I hope he improves and has a little more value. I'd really like to see one of secondary pitches make a huge gain this year to where one cold say it has plus potential.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 2, 2016 10:27:48 GMT -5
While he has some potential I thought this was a little exaggerated and optimistic - [If Stank] "can replicate his successes from 2014 and 2015 at the Double-A level, he may find himself in the top-10 of the Red Sox prospect rankings heading into 2017." According to the author, his successes were durability, lack of walks, a few game where he put it all together, and ok stats. In order to move into the top 10, he really need to improve on those successes. Better K numbers, for example. Better GB%. He's a decent potential #4/#5 starter if he keeps developing. Unless the Sox trade away a couple guys ahead of him, however, I think he is likely to be traded away. I hope he improves and has a little more value. I'd really like to see one of secondary pitches make a huge gain this year to where one cold say it has plus potential. Agreed that it's a bit too optimistic. But consider a world in which Travis, Johnson, Marrero, Light, Hernandez, and maybe even Benintendi or Moncada graduate, with only the #12 pick coming in behind them. That alone could put him on the doorstep. Of course, that's not necessarily the likely scenario. He'd also have to pitch a lot better to reach that point, as you point out. |
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Post by telson13 on Mar 2, 2016 10:33:40 GMT -5
While he has some potential I thought this was a little exaggerated and optimistic - [If Stank] "can replicate his successes from 2014 and 2015 at the Double-A level, he may find himself in the top-10 of the Red Sox prospect rankings heading into 2017." According to the author, his successes were durability, lack of walks, a few game where he put it all together, and ok stats. In order to move into the top 10, he really need to improve on those successes. Better K numbers, for example. Better GB%. He's a decent potential #4/#5 starter if he keeps developing. Unless the Sox trade away a couple guys ahead of him, however, I think he is likely to be traded away. I hope he improves and has a little more value. I'd really like to see one of secondary pitches make a huge gain this year to where one cold say it has plus potential. Agreed...while it might've been possible to succeed in 1980 with a K/9 rate of 4.9, back then it wasn't nearly as far below average as it is now. I have a tough time getting excited about a below-average "innings eater." The reality is that you don't want a guy pitching a lot of below-average innings for you. That's how you lose games. With the rise of deep bullpens with multiple shut-down arms, it's becoming ever more viable to use 5-6 inning starters who are just average, rather than plugging in guys who are below-average but go 6-7 every night. Unless Stankiewicz can figure out a way to either miss bats, or develop an elite skill (like popup or ground ball rate), he's not somebody I'd get excited about. He may have trade value (Ian Kennedy got 5/$70M, so dependable starters have value to *somebody*), but he's not someone I'd want starting for the Sox. I think their goal should be to have, at worst, a #3-quality starter in their 4 and 5 spots, and given Stankiewicz's progression, he's not going to provide that quality of pitching, even if he can provide quantity. I really hope he can take a step forward with his stuff. |
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