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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 22, 2013 5:42:31 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on Aug 22, 2013 6:32:34 GMT -5
The international market is like the sopranos. These big time players that you've never heard of come out of nowhere after another international player dies, I mean signs.
Anyways, from this little excerpt I'm confident going 10 years 250m on this guy, after posting that is.
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Post by mainesox on Aug 22, 2013 6:51:01 GMT -5
Meh. Pitching is pretty much the last thing we'll need this off-season, and the fact that his fastball is flat would worry me. I'm not exactly against the idea, but I'd rather spend the resources somewhere else.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 22, 2013 7:02:20 GMT -5
...but man there is something attractive about Japanese pitchers with an average fastball, plus splitter, and plus control....
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 22, 2013 7:05:43 GMT -5
Meh. Pitching is pretty much the last thing we'll need this off-season, and the fact that his fastball is flat would worry me. I'm not exactly against the idea, but I'd rather spend the resources somewhere else. If that is the case and can agree, there is really nothing pressing for the team to look at in the off season, other than possibly a RH bat to pay 1b if they don't decide to see if Middlebrooks can play 1b and possibly a 4th veteran OF who can play CF. There could be a veteran middle reliever brought in possibly also, but expect none of those signings to amount to much totaled up. The only way anything big could happen is if the Sox go out and make an impactful trade, like for a Stanton is my thinking.
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Post by psusox14 on Aug 22, 2013 7:10:28 GMT -5
...but man there is something attractive about Japanese pitchers with an average fastball, plus splitter, and plus control.... I hope you're not trying to say yu darvish has an average fastball.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 22, 2013 7:44:31 GMT -5
...but man there is something attractive about Japanese pitchers with an average fastball, plus splitter, and plus control.... I hope you're not trying to say yu darvish has an average fastball. I was trying to make a Koji reference
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 22, 2013 7:45:15 GMT -5
I keep hearing that we don't need pitching. To me, always seeking out and obtaining top starting pitching is exactly what every playoff caliber team should be striving for. They are the key to winning the playoffs generally and in incredible demand, ergo all teams frothing at the mouth over Felix, Harvey, Kershaw...etc. We can always trade the guys we don't want as much after obtaining the top 2-3 studs we freaking need in order to win the WS. Wake up. Yes, we need top pitching. If that means signing Kuroda away from the Yanks when he was paid only $16 mil yes that is what it means even if it costs us a pick and $20 mil. He was a proven commodity and relatively cheap. I didn't care that he was 38 years old when he had been a stud for 5 years in a row with no indications of a slowdown and look what he has done this year. Top starting pitching is what keeps NYC in it every year guys. The hitters coming through only takes it to another level. This year they stayed in it a long time just with a few good starters.
We should be developing talent as we are for all positions but if I'm going to sacrifice anywhere it's not at starting pitching. Look at so many teams which have won the WS mainly with 2-3 top starters like SF with Cain, Lincecum...etc. Really the only question is picking which ones to obtain. We've been burned before but was Darvish an excellent choice though? And Kuroda has been an animal. And this guy is young and he is putting up incredible numbers. I don't know anything about him but I would absolutely be saving whatever cash I have with top starting pitching as my priority and if they think this guy is a winner yes get him.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 22, 2013 7:51:06 GMT -5
Given the Yankee's need for pitching, I can see them making a strong offer for this guy.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2013 8:20:11 GMT -5
Meh, talk to me when we're discussing Japanese 16 year olds who throw 96.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 22, 2013 8:36:59 GMT -5
You can never have enough pitching.
I think Cherrington should conduct his due diligence on this kid.
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Post by jimoh on Aug 22, 2013 9:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2013 15:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 22, 2013 15:40:30 GMT -5
Meh, talk to me when we're discussing Japanese 16 year olds... In a different context - this could land you on 'to catch a predator'
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2013 15:59:03 GMT -5
Meh, talk to me when we're discussing Japanese 16 year olds... In a different context - this could land you on 'to catch a predator' Touché
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 22, 2013 16:16:19 GMT -5
We talk about 16 y/o Dominicans in the International thread...but that's fine right?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2013 16:58:08 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 22, 2013 17:04:57 GMT -5
So would it be Tanaka or Abreu or could it be both? I hope it could be both.
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Post by 1mpaz10 on Aug 22, 2013 18:50:32 GMT -5
The international market is like the sopranos. These big time players that you've never heard of come out of nowhere after another international player dies, I mean signs. Anyways, from this little excerpt I'm confident going 10 years 250m on this guy, after posting that is. Are you on drugs?
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Post by 1mpaz10 on Aug 22, 2013 18:50:56 GMT -5
So would it be Tanaka or Abreu or could it be both? I hope it could be both. Unlikely.
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Post by urgent on Aug 22, 2013 19:50:47 GMT -5
The international market is like the sopranos. These big time players that you've never heard of come out of nowhere after another international player dies, I mean signs. Anyways, from this little excerpt I'm confident going 10 years 250m on this guy, after posting that is. Are you on drugs? Posting permission: On Sarcasm monitor: Off See that little button on the bottom right that is off? That needs to be turned on...
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Post by mainesox on Aug 22, 2013 19:58:08 GMT -5
I keep hearing that we don't need pitching. To me, always seeking out and obtaining top starting pitching is exactly what every playoff caliber team should be striving for... I'm less than convinced that he's a top starting pitcher considering the reported straightness of his fastball. If I thought he were a #1-2 pitcher I would have a different opinion (and I admit that there's still room for me to be convinced that he is a top of the rotation type, but nothing I've read so far makes me believe it).
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 22, 2013 20:19:01 GMT -5
Is it okay if I want him signed on his name alone?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 22, 2013 21:04:45 GMT -5
So would it be Tanaka or Abreu or could it be both? I hope it could be both. I can't imagine it being both, but if/when Ellsbury doesn't re-sign, Drew leaves, and Napoli leaves, the Sox should have enough money available to sign both if they don't spent big money elsewhere (and I wouldn't think they'd have to). If this guy can be a #2 type starting pitcher, then the Sox should be all over this guy, but honestly if they could only sign one of these two, I'd prefer the Sox take the RH bat in Abreu. They really need to strengthen the lineup with a young RH power bat, particularly at 1b. If both were possible, I'd love to see it. I don't think the Sox can have too much pitching and I don't see anything on the market that seems as appealing. Unfortunately, the Sox might wind up with neither, as they really haven't taken the plunge since the Daisuke signing. They didn't get in on Darvish (which really bothered me), ignored Cespedes, and didn't get involved with Soler (wish they had an OF prospect like him in the minors).
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Post by atzar on Aug 22, 2013 21:06:06 GMT -5
This might be a stupid question, but is 130 K in 158 IP very good over there? I see where the raw number of strikeouts is near the top of the league, but it's not a K/9 that would garner much attention here in the minors.
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