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Post by nomar on Apr 24, 2014 12:43:18 GMT -5
Hope to see him with Lowell. GCL might be too easy for him. Really doubt he goes straight to Lowell.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Apr 24, 2014 13:15:37 GMT -5
Devers is easily 6 ft tall and over 200 lbs. Saw him a couple of times and he never has looked 16 or 17. Hopefully he puts the time into making sure his body is muscle. I actually liked his hands when fielding also. I HOPE he plays this season in the GCL. It would be nice, if after 6 weeks he is so darn good that they have to promote him so you guys in the Lowell area can see him LATER!
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Post by alnipper on Apr 24, 2014 18:26:16 GMT -5
I wasn't blown away by the video. It is a very small sample size though. The GCL is a good starting point. Lets see how he does and take it from there. He's not a Bryce Harper at this point. I wonder if Devers will walk a lot?
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 24, 2014 19:32:20 GMT -5
I'd like to see him get a little bit quieter with his hands, but the lower body portion of his swing mechanics look very, very, very good. Clean, fluid motion and excellent balance.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 24, 2014 19:41:40 GMT -5
For reference, the Red Sox have never sent a player as young as Devers to Lowell or higher.
Not saying it's impossible, but if he breaks camp with Lowell, we're talking immediately-jump-him-into-the-top-5-if-not-higher territory.
The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 24, 2014 19:57:35 GMT -5
For reference, the Red Sox have never sent a player as young as Devers to Lowell or higher. Not saying it's impossible, but if he breaks camp with Lowell, we're talking immediately-jump-him-into-the-top-5-if-not-higher territory. The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL. DSL? No way. He might be the most advanced bat among international signees. I remember when Bogaerts was assigned to Greenville the staff said it would be temporary and he would be demoted to Lowell when short season starting. Sometimes reference doesn't work.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 24, 2014 21:54:00 GMT -5
For reference, the Red Sox have never sent a player as young as Devers to Lowell or higher. Not saying it's impossible, but if he breaks camp with Lowell, we're talking immediately-jump-him-into-the-top-5-if-not-higher territory. The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL. DSL? No way. He might be the most advanced bat among international signees. I remember when Bogaerts was assigned to Greenville the staff said it would be temporary and he would be demoted to Lowell when short season starting. Sometimes reference doesn't work. The reference with Bogaerts is that he debuted in the DSL, fyi.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 24, 2014 21:56:56 GMT -5
Did I say he debuted in Greenville? No. I know he debuted in the DSL. Even I know he struggled to adjust to 90 mph fastball in DSL.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 24, 2014 22:40:47 GMT -5
The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL. Is there as big a gap among these two as there's among them and Lowell? Just trying to know how hyped I should be in the event.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 25, 2014 0:16:03 GMT -5
For reference, the Red Sox have never sent a player as young as Devers to Lowell or higher. Not saying it's impossible, but if he breaks camp with Lowell, we're talking immediately-jump-him-into-the-top-5-if-not-higher territory. The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL. Not saying he should start at Lowell, but didn't you guys see him in spring training competing against A-ball players? The impression I got from the reports was that he more than held his own. If true, I'd have to think they start him in the GCL. With that said, with some of these guys, aren't there other factors in play? Maturity. The Sox evaluation of how ready he is to adapt to a new culture. Language skills. I guess it's all part of the maturity category.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 25, 2014 5:03:25 GMT -5
One major factor is that GCL has dorm housing whereas no other team does. The odds that he possesses the ability to live on his own from day one is small. Multilingual backgrounds are rare, Xander was the exception, not the rule.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 25, 2014 11:59:34 GMT -5
My most resonable projection is that he'll start in the GCL and if everything is going well he'll get a Lowell cup of coffee.
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Post by burythehammer on Apr 25, 2014 16:29:04 GMT -5
The question is whether or not he debuts in the GCL or DSL. Is there as big a gap among these two as there's among them and Lowell? Just trying to know how hyped I should be in the event. Anyone can feel free to correct me, but my sense is that that GCL/Lowell are closer to each other than GCL/DSL. High bonus/profile guys like Devers start in the GCL far more often than the DSL, no? I think it probably has a lot more to do with the off field factors phil mentioned above than we probably realize.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 25, 2014 16:35:36 GMT -5
Yes that is true the high profile guys start in the GCL most often. However I think the gap between GCL and Lowell is nothing to sneeze at. The NY-Penn League is more populated by college guys so they are more experienced and competition is more high level. The DSL is its own kind, I wouldn't compare it to any organized American League.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 26, 2014 23:01:25 GMT -5
Not saying he should start at Lowell, but didn't you guys see him in spring training competing against A-ball players? No. He was with the Rookie ball "team". For what it's worth, I think he starts in the GCL. I just meant the chances are better, in my opinion, that he starts in the DSL than that he starts in Lowell. I'd say something like 75% GCL, 20% DSL, 5% Lowell, or something.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 26, 2014 23:04:16 GMT -5
One major factor is that GCL has dorm housing whereas no other team does. The odds that he possesses the ability to live on his own from day one is small. Multilingual backgrounds are rare, Xander was the exception, not the rule. My understanding is that the Lowell players stay in the UMass Lowell dorms. I'm not sure of the housing situation in the GCL.
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Post by amfox1 on May 29, 2014 14:18:27 GMT -5
Devers will be starting in the DSL this summer.
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 29, 2014 14:59:54 GMT -5
Devers will be starting in the DSL this summer. Is that for sure? Just an opinion?
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 29, 2014 15:04:48 GMT -5
Just read the Twitter feed. That sucks! I hope he is just getting some extra at-bats and then coming state side. The potential roster already for the GCL team was pretty uninteresting.
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Post by soxfanatic on May 29, 2014 17:10:54 GMT -5
That's disappointing. Some people here were all for starting him in Lowell lol.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 29, 2014 22:04:40 GMT -5
GCL is definitely still a possibility. But remember, he's 17 - if he comes stateside next year, he'll still be the same age as a high school draftee at that point. If he does the DSL to Lowell jump a la Margot or something, then he's back on track.
But as I said on Twitter, it's entirely possible he goes to the DSL to play in games that count for three weeks. At least one player has gone from the DSL to the GCL for opening day in three of the last four years, so it's a thing that happens. He's already got his work visa, so that's one issue already dealt with.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 30, 2014 0:55:10 GMT -5
One major factor is that GCL has dorm housing whereas no other team does. The odds that he possesses the ability to live on his own from day one is small. Multilingual backgrounds are rare, Xander was the exception, not the rule. My understanding is that the Lowell players stay in the UMass Lowell dorms. I'm not sure of the housing situation in the GCL. I'm curious about that. I was thinking that they were looking for host families in the Lowell area a few years ago. Put me on the long list that are hoping to see him in the USA this year.
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Post by burythehammer on May 30, 2014 6:04:26 GMT -5
Guys, Xander Bogaerts played a full DSL season and was in the big leagues by 20. I don't think this is anything to worry about. And yes I realize Devers has way, way more hype than Xander did at this point in his career and it would be exciting if they thought he was advanced enough for Lowell, but if he's as good as we hope they will not be shy about promoting him accordingly.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 31, 2014 14:45:25 GMT -5
BTW he won't be the only Millionaire in the DSL. I wen't through the updated rosters and saw all the Rangers bonus babies are on the roster (Diplan, Yrrizarri, Almonte) also saw the Twins big signing (Lewin Diaz) is there. There may be more that I missed.
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Post by geezergeek on May 31, 2014 22:06:33 GMT -5
Guys, Xander Bogaerts played a full DSL season and was in the big leagues by 20. I don't think this is anything to worry about. And yes I realize Devers has way, way more hype than Xander did at this point in his career and it would be exciting if they thought he was advanced enough for Lowell, but if he's as good as we hope they will not be shy about promoting him accordingly. The wait may not be long for Lowell. One game does not a career make but what a DSL opening. 3 for 5, DBL, HR and 4 RBI. He's 17 so Joe Nuxhall's record is safe.
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