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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2014 10:23:16 GMT -5
If by not repeating 2012 you mean drafting 7th overall, don't worry, they'd be drafting 6th overall right now. Seriously, 2012 and 2013 were extreme outliers, in both directions. If we try and draw lessons from 2012 (the danger of long term contracts) and 2013 (the benefits of short term contracts) then the Sox are bigger fools. As with everything in life, its a balance issue. Right now, they are slightly too risk averse given their ability to tolerate a bad investment (the true lesson of 2012, you can get out of bad contracts). To my mind, they lack a lot of foundational aspects. Money buys those, either as defector/Asian free agents, MLB free agents (and it used to be the draft to replenish the internal talent) in order to trade for talent. They have been competitive for some of the defector/Asians, but seem too conservative to win any of the bidding. They had a good opportunity to fill a spot long term, both money wise and positionally, but didn't take advantage of the opportunity. With MLB free agents, they signed Pedroia, but have so far drawn the line on Lester, and have not taken any longer term contrats. They now have the ability to trade their chips for a longer term core part. I don't blame them for letting WMB/Bogaerts/JBJ show who they are, in the hope they could pan out and save them from having to spend a lot of money. I think we can agree that they have shown that this hope didn't work out. They have a full year honeymoon to put together a deal, but I would hope they use this opportunity to make such a trade. By not repeating 2012, I mean not having any flexibility to sign anyone they might need to fill holes or add depth and likely being in that position for a long time. I would not count on being able to get out of bad contracts.
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Post by stevedillard on May 22, 2014 10:37:25 GMT -5
The team can't view long term contracts only as "potentially bad deals" They are also "potentially great players locked up for a long time"
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on May 22, 2014 11:15:15 GMT -5
Ben Badler of BA published his projected top 10 internation signings, with the Red Sox projected to get Andres Espinoza, RHP Venezuela for approx $ 2 million. He also projects that the Yankees will sign the following:
Dermes Garcia SS DR $3 million Nelson Gomez 3B DR $2 million Jon Delon OF DR $ 2 million Chris Torres SS DR $ 2 million
He also wrote about how this year may be more difficult to assess the talent of many of the top prospects, particularly since many of them have had verbal signing agreements in place for at least six months or more, which has resulted in these prospects either not participating in tournaments/show cases or not putting forth their best efforts to avoid injuries. He also cited the ongoing security concerns in Venezuela and the related travel warnings which have put a crimp on scouting there.
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Post by jmei on May 22, 2014 11:51:43 GMT -5
Let's try to keep this thread to IFAs. Feel free to start another thread on general free agent strategy.
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2014 12:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on May 22, 2014 14:57:19 GMT -5
How does this class rank compared to last year?
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Post by grandsalami on May 22, 2014 14:58:44 GMT -5
Ben Badler of BA published his projected top 10 internation signings, with the Red Sox projected to get Andres Espinoza, RHP Venezuela for approx $ 2 million. He also projects that the Yankees will sign the following: Dermes Garcia SS DR $3 million Nelson Gomez 3B DR $2 million Jon Delon OF DR $ 2 million Chris Torres SS DR $ 2 million He also wrote about how this year may be more difficult to assess the talent of many of the top prospects, particularly since many of them have had verbal signing agreements in place for at least six months or more, which has resulted in these prospects either not participating in tournaments/show cases or not putting forth their best efforts to avoid injuries. He also cited the ongoing security concerns in Venezuela and the related travel warnings which have put a crimp on scouting there. Can you summarize what the strengths of the 4 players the yankees are signing are?
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2014 15:15:25 GMT -5
Ben Badler of BA published his projected top 10 internation signings, with the Red Sox projected to get Andres Espinoza, RHP Venezuela for approx $ 2 million. He also projects that the Yankees will sign the following: Dermes Garcia SS DR $3 million Nelson Gomez 3B DR $2 million Jon Delon OF DR $ 2 million Chris Torres SS DR $ 2 million He also wrote about how this year may be more difficult to assess the talent of many of the top prospects, particularly since many of them have had verbal signing agreements in place for at least six months or more, which has resulted in these prospects either not participating in tournaments/show cases or not putting forth their best efforts to avoid injuries. He also cited the ongoing security concerns in Venezuela and the related travel warnings which have put a crimp on scouting there. Can you summarize what the strengths of the 4 players the yankees are signing are? They'll be Yankee prospects #2-5 to start.
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Post by grandsalami on May 22, 2014 15:26:31 GMT -5
Can you summarize what the strengths of the 4 players the yankees are signing are? They'll be Yankee prospects #2-5 to start. No i mean power/speed, contact etc?
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 22, 2014 16:35:17 GMT -5
Dermis Garcia - easy power, scouts question the hit tool, likely moves to 3B.
Nelson Gomez - Massive power, mixed reviews on the hit tool. Will have to keep his body in check to remain at 3B.
Juan De Leon - Toolsy/exciting guy, right field profile.
Chris Torres - Slick fielding SS, mixed reviews on the bat.
The Rays are also signing a really exciting players, from the reports sounds like Adrian Rondon (#3) has a high chance of remaining at SS and has very good offensive tools. He likely will get more than 3 million.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 24, 2014 11:24:17 GMT -5
I think they need to spend 5-6 million dollars this year to make it worth it specially if they are going to finish middle of the pack and be face with having a higher-than-expected bonus pool but unable to use it next year. Not advocating to go the Yankees route but more the Cubs/Rangers route last year.
I don't think they can pull back on going over if they have deals in place, it would send the wrong message in a market that depends a large part on trust. It seems like at least Espinoza is locked up and he will take the entire bonus pool.
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Post by sportnik on May 26, 2014 9:14:49 GMT -5
In light of the team's performance and the probability of a well above average bonus pool next year, I think the strategy to go more than 15% over the pool needs to be rethought. The penalties extend for two seasons, so to my thinking you need to sign three elite prospects to make this approach worthwhile. This is a tall order in a year that the Yankees are going all in on Latin talent.
I'd rather see them sign a devers or an Espinoza every year than to blow their load in a single season. I'd like to see them sign Espinoza and find a way to stay within 15% of their cap, even if it means signing virtually no one else.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 26, 2014 10:52:27 GMT -5
The problem is that if they have deal in place with someone they can't just back away, that would send the wrong message to agents in an industry that relies on trust. Espinoza seems to be a done deal and the rumored price is ~ $2 million and Badler of BA says they are the favorites on Acosta for ~ $1 millon so that's ~ $3 million already. If they don't have a deal with Acosta or someone else then I could see them backing away but if they do I don't think it would be wise.
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Post by bentossaurus on May 27, 2014 21:00:11 GMT -5
Perhaps the Sox will finally start trading for some of that cap space.
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Post by soxfanatic on May 31, 2014 8:53:53 GMT -5
Looking at the DSL roster the Sox signed the following players:
Marcos Lantigua (RHP) Alejandro Rodriguez (LHP) Jesus Perez (OF) Juan Barriento (OF)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 5, 2014 16:50:15 GMT -5
Ben Badler ?@benbadler 40m Jorge Despaigne is out of Cuba. Here's more (with a GIF) on the latest Cuban that scouts will have on their radar: bit.ly/UfhZ7t
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Post by jdb on Jun 13, 2014 18:45:47 GMT -5
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Post by soxcentral on Jun 14, 2014 5:34:01 GMT -5
Don't know if this is somewhere else, but Cuban OF Rusney Castillo declared a FA Monday and will hold an open tryout soon. Looks like he has the arm for RF and the speed/defensive instincts for CF, based on the BA video shown. Looks better than any OF prospect we have coming up by a long shot (unless you count Mookie as an OF prospect now). link
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Post by godot on Jun 14, 2014 7:53:33 GMT -5
He should be a natural for the Sox to sign. He is also short and can bunt. They also talk about his "good approach".
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 14, 2014 8:18:47 GMT -5
Don't know if this is somewhere else, but Cuban OF Rusney Castillo declared a FA Monday and will hold an open tryout soon. Looks like he has the arm for RF and the speed/defensive instincts for CF, based on the BA video shown. Looks better than any OF prospect we have coming up by a long shot (unless you count Mookie as an OF prospect now). linkNot picking on you but these are obviously highlight tapes. Castillo looks like he has potential but I am sure if there was a compilation of Manuel Margot highlights you would be equally impressed, particularly given that he is a lot younger.
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Post by godot on Jun 14, 2014 8:24:43 GMT -5
Although highlight tapes, you can still tell if he runs good routs, hits the ball hard, etc.
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Post by jimoh on Jun 14, 2014 9:05:03 GMT -5
scouting report by Ben Badler from Dec '13, mixed (and probably cited much earlier in this thread): www.baseballamerica.com/international/defection-of-top-cuban-outfielder-rusney-castillo-could-shake-up-market/"More of a doubles hitter than a big home run threat, Castillo puts a charge into the ball with a line-drive righthanded swing, though he can get long to the ball at times and some scouts think he’s prone to chasing pitches off the plate. Primarily a center fielder in Cuba, Castillo has also played some second and third base, so his versatility could be a draw for some teams. He’s an aggressive, high-energy player, though some teams see him as a fourth outfielder. … Castillo was coming off an excellent year in Serie Nacional in 2010-11 in which he led the league with 29 stolen bases in 35 attempts and hit .324/.373/.555 with 18 home runs in 400 plate appearances. In 2011-12, Castillo hit .332/.395/.545 in 420 plate appearances, belting 16 home runs with 32 walks, 42 strikeouts and 22 stolen bases in 29 attempts. He led the league with 28 doubles, ranked 13th in batting average and tied for third in the league in steals. Last season was a down year for Castillo, however, as he hit just .250/.352/.342 in 43 games." and with apologies for citing bleacher report bleacherreport.com/articles/1933848-scouting-dodgers-newest-big-name-cuban-target-rusney-castillo
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Post by ramireja on Jun 16, 2014 12:43:58 GMT -5
Not sure if its been reported in another thread but.... Carbonell to the Giants on a 4 year deal with a guaranteed 3.5 mill
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Post by godot on Jun 16, 2014 13:27:25 GMT -5
Interesting, Giants say he is a project and expect he will spend some time in the minors. Scouting suggests his hitting skills "raw", whatever that means.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 16, 2014 13:41:08 GMT -5
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