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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 22, 2014 18:30:39 GMT -5
"@bradfo: Source: Red Sox come to terms on major league deal with Grady Sizemore"
Add:@ken_Rosenthal: Source confirms: Grady Sizemore to #RedSox on one-year, major-league deal. Guarantee less than $1M, bonuses can take it up to $6M.
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Post by jmei on Jan 22, 2014 18:31:05 GMT -5
!!!
ADD: he's definitely not going to be his 2005-08 self, and he's probably not going to give the team meaningful production. But Scott Kazmir happened, so one can always dream...
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jan 22, 2014 18:34:45 GMT -5
Major League deal? Interesting.
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Post by jmei on Jan 22, 2014 18:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Jan 22, 2014 18:38:52 GMT -5
Rob Bradford ?@bradfo 1m Sizemore has base of $750K with incentives that can push up to $6 million with Red Sox
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Post by amfox1 on Jan 22, 2014 18:46:32 GMT -5
A 40-man roster move will be needed. Best guesses are Villarreal and Herrera, with Herrera being my guess.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 22, 2014 18:49:07 GMT -5
A 40-man roster move will be needed. Best guesses are Villarreal and Herrera, with Herrera being my guess. Why Herrera? He was just acquired in a semi-big trade. I'd DFA Wright, Wilson, Lavarnway or Villareal.
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Post by jmei on Jan 22, 2014 18:54:02 GMT -5
A 40-man roster move will be needed. Best guesses are Villarreal and Herrera, with Herrera being my guess. Why Herrera? He was just acquired in a semi-big trade. I'd DFA Wright, Wilson, Lavarnway or Villareal. This happened in the interim; no clue whether it would cause the front office enough consternation to DFA him, though.
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Post by redsocks on Jan 22, 2014 18:54:19 GMT -5
For this cost, I think this is a great gamble for the Sox. Low cost, moderately high reward.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 22, 2014 18:55:06 GMT -5
I don't get the point. Is it event remotely possible he can still play centerfield? 2 micro fracture surgeries on his knee? Hasn't played in 2 years. If the answer there is no, then he can't really play right here either. The team already has Gomes and Carp. Speed was a big part of his game, offensively and defensively. The fact it's a major league deal bothers me, unless there is done miracle that he's back to being an explosive athlete.
Kazmir is a left handed pitcher. He's no longer a power lefty. What he did last year isn't so impressive compared to if Sizemore had any value as a position player. What's the best case here and how does it upgrade over Carp or Gomes?
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 22, 2014 18:58:39 GMT -5
To be clear, I think there is real downside here. If he makes the team, in all likelihood Carp is gone. We've all been talking about the importance of depth. Sizemore is a huge injury risk. If you keep him and he gets hurt like he does every year, then your down him and Carp. This may be a little unfair, but the injury risk is big and if he's on the team it's at the cost of a good major league caliber player. He's not taking the util infielder spot.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 22, 2014 19:01:32 GMT -5
A 40-man roster move will be needed. Best guesses are Villarreal and Herrera, with Herrera being my guess. A 25-man move needs to be made unless Sizemore has an option. My guess is that Carp gets traded.
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Post by gator39 on Jan 22, 2014 19:04:50 GMT -5
Villarreal seems like the obvious one to go to me since he is out of options anyway. Also this would seem to be bad news for Jackie Bradley jr.'s chances of breaking camp with the big club. Weird that Sizemore got a major league deal.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jan 22, 2014 19:06:01 GMT -5
Why Herrera? He was just acquired in a semi-big trade. I'd DFA Wright, Wilson, Lavarnway or Villareal. This happened in the interim; no clue whether it would cause the front office enough consternation to DFA him, though. I think it might up his value!
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 22, 2014 19:06:05 GMT -5
We do not need to DFA a minor league player if we have 26 players without options on major league contracts.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 22, 2014 19:06:25 GMT -5
There is no 25 man roster in January
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jan 22, 2014 19:07:22 GMT -5
He takes Nava's spot. Watch.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Jan 22, 2014 19:07:33 GMT -5
I'm kind of shocked they'd give him a major league deal, especially after letting Kalish walk (I know it's a different situation, not much left on the market, etc.)
The optimist in me is intrigued that he got the major league deal though.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jan 22, 2014 19:08:11 GMT -5
There is no 25 man roster right now.
My guess is they signed him to bring into camp as JBJ insurance and for the slim chance that he shows something in spring training that is worth holding onto. On a major league deal I think the two most likely scenarios are that he (or someone else) starts the year on the DL or he is cut.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jan 22, 2014 19:12:01 GMT -5
There is no 25 man roster right now. My guess is they signed him to bring into camp as JBJ insurance and for the slim chance that he shows something in spring training that is worth holding onto. On a major league deal I think the two most likely scenarios are that he (or someone else) starts the year on the DL or he is cut. This. Or someone could get traded also.
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Post by jmei on Jan 22, 2014 19:33:25 GMT -5
I imagine the major league deal is because he had real leverage in terms of other suitors (the Reds were reported to be strongly interested) and his medicals/tryouts were good enough that the Red Sox believed his potential was worth the $750K/40-man spot.
No player has to get traded for him to make the Opening Day roster; an injury requiring a DL stint to any of seven players (Nava, Gomes, Carp, Bradley, Victorino, Napoli, Ortiz) would presumably get him on the 25-man when camp breaks. He himself could also start the season on the DL and "rehab" in Pawtucket as protection for any of the above players, but there would be time constraints there (20 days rehab assignment at most). Bradley could also be optioned, though I think that scenario is very, very unlikely.
The Kalish comparison is interesting, though. Presumably, the front office thinks Sizemore is much more likely than Kalish to help the team in 2014, considering that Kalish (a) had an option left and (b) would have had three years of team control left if he stuck on the 40-man. This implies good things about Sizemore's health, although maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
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Post by amfox1 on Jan 22, 2014 19:37:37 GMT -5
A 40-man roster move will be needed. Best guesses are Villarreal and Herrera, with Herrera being my guess. It's Villarreal who is DFA'd.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jan 22, 2014 19:46:13 GMT -5
The Kalish comparison is interesting, though. Presumably, the front office thinks Sizemore is much more likely than Kalish to help the team in 2014, considering that Kalish (a) had an option left and (b) would have had three years of team control left if he stuck on the 40-man. This implies good things about Sizemore's health, although maybe I'm just reading too much into it. There's also the fact that Sizemore has, in fact, produced in the major leagues in his life ... But I do think there's at least some optimism to be found in the fact that this is a major league deal. The Sox aren't going to burn a 40-man slot for nothing ... but not reason for much beyond vague hope, I think. We're really saying that the team thought the value of Sizemore's potential to be reasonably healthy was worth Villarreal, which is not all the big a deal. What the heck? Worth a shot, guy could be valuable depth ...
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 22, 2014 19:52:54 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 22, 2014 19:55:31 GMT -5
If the medicals are at least worth the shot then the likelihood of Grady doing anything for the Sox are greater than the odds of Villarreal doing anything to help the club.
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