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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 17, 2014 7:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 17, 2014 8:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 10:17:10 GMT -5
Is it time to start taking Brock Holt seriously? When looking at his stats, he's been an above average hitter until last year. Maybe because he was older, I dunno.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 17, 2014 10:23:28 GMT -5
Is it time to start taking Brock Holt seriously? When looking at his stats, he's been an above average hitter until last year. Maybe because he was older, I dunno. Depends what we're taking him seriously as. I don't see him as a real option as a major league starter at any position - maybe second base on a second division team. However, if you mean taking him seriously as a major league quality backup infielder who is better than he played last season, yeah I think it's fair to take notice. I don't know what happened to his power last season. He'd had over 30 doubles each of the previous two seasons, then had only 8 in 350 at-bats between Pawtucket in Boston. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 10:28:53 GMT -5
Is it time to start taking Brock Holt seriously? When looking at his stats, he's been an above average hitter until last year. Maybe because he was older, I dunno. Depends what we're taking him seriously as. I don't see him as a real option as a major league starter at any position - maybe second base on a second division team. However, if you mean taking him seriously as a major league quality backup infielder who is better than he played last season, yeah I think it's fair to take notice. I don't know what happened to his power last season. He'd had over 30 doubles each of the previous two seasons, then had only 8 in 350 at-bats between Pawtucket in Boston. Yes, I meant as seriously as being possibly better than Herrera. Although if Ben is lucky, he'll be able to keep him in AAA for 2 more years as depth. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 17, 2014 11:52:44 GMT -5
I talked to a Div III coach I know who coached baseball against Heller for 4 years. He said he has a good eye and good plate discipline, but thought the swing he had at Amherst won't play at levels higher than A ball.
Question: Has anyone seen Heller and know if he now has a compact swing or unremarkable swing path (i.e. not inordinately long) or is he just tooling off on FBs in the zone? (it was described to me as loooooong by this coach).
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Post by steveofbradenton on Apr 17, 2014 13:45:45 GMT -5
I talked to a Div III coach I know who coached baseball against Heller for 4 years. He said he has a good eye and good plate discipline, but thought the swing he had at Amherst won't play at levels higher than A ball. Question: Has anyone seen Heller and know if he now has a compact swing or unremarkable swing path (i.e. not inordinately long) or is he just tooling off on FBs in the zone? (it was described to me as loooooong by this coach). I have seen Heller and talked with his parents throughout the (spring training) game. I'm somewhat surprised by his start and, of course, hope he keeps it up, but the game I saw he was somewhat long with his swing. He takes a healthy cut, but was not overly impressive that particular day. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Apr 17, 2014 13:47:28 GMT -5
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Rubby De La Rosa 6.0 4 1 1 1 5 0 1.08
My man Rubby looking good once again! He is actually losing one to zip after the 6th. Looks like the PawSox have the same problem the parent club has.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 17, 2014 13:57:51 GMT -5
Not so fast, Vazquez just doubles home Cecchini after he had singled. 1-1 now.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 17, 2014 15:05:14 GMT -5
I talked to a Div III coach I know who coached baseball against Heller for 4 years. He said he has a good eye and good plate discipline, but thought the swing he had at Amherst won't play at levels higher than A ball. Question: Has anyone seen Heller and know if he now has a compact swing or unremarkable swing path (i.e. not inordinately long) or is he just tooling off on FBs in the zone? (it was described to me as loooooong by this coach). I have seen Heller and talked with his parents throughout the (spring training) game. I'm somewhat surprised by his start and, of course, hope he keeps it up, but the game I saw he was somewhat long with his swing. He takes a healthy cut, but was not overly impressive that particular day. Salem Red Sox ?@salemredsox 14m Kevin Heller might be a fairly unknown prospect, but he's currently third in OBP in all of @milb. ow.ly/vUaDc So far, he's doing a great job of overcoming the stigma of BSOHL. |
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 17, 2014 17:04:11 GMT -5
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Rubby De La Rosa 6.0 4 1 1 1 5 0 1.08 My man Rubby looking good once again! He is actually losing one to zip after the 6th. Looks like the PawSox have the same problem the parent club has. Just a 6:7 ground / air breakdown, but his season split there is still great. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 17, 2014 17:20:58 GMT -5
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Rubby De La Rosa 6.0 4 1 1 1 5 0 1.08 My man Rubby looking good once again! He is actually losing one to zip after the 6th. Looks like the PawSox have the same problem the parent club has. Just a 6:7 ground / air breakdown, but his season split there is still great. When I look at Ranaudo, Webster, Owens and Rubby it is hard for me to see another Lester, Buch, Peavy or Lackey in the group let alone a Tanaka or Pineda. The extremely early returns on Ball appear to be less than eye-popping too. Of course my recent optical check-up showed that I was nearsighted at 20-400. I hope that I am wrong but I think that we may have to pony up to compete in the pitching department down the road. The hated Yankees seem to have a bottomless source of money and we appear to be drawing the strings given Pedey's contract and Lester's guestimate offer. |
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 17, 2014 18:11:47 GMT -5
Hernandez with another strong start.
Still could contribute as a lefty specialist and long man.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 17, 2014 19:05:15 GMT -5
Ruby is very much overlooked because he's no longer a " prospect". Remember last year was his first year with a new org. His first year back "healthy" after TJS and healthy and this year is his first normal year with a good offseason.
He still has top not potential.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 17, 2014 19:14:50 GMT -5
He gets talked about an awful lot for a guy that is underrated. I think most people have him in the same tier as Barnes/Webster/Ranaudo/Workman.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 17, 2014 20:39:40 GMT -5
Stank 3hits in 6
Gunk 3 ks
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Post by jchang on Apr 17, 2014 21:29:10 GMT -5
Salem 10th starts SO, err, walk, err, 8 runs so far. What is the record for most unearned runs in inning? with no earned runs?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 17, 2014 22:48:24 GMT -5
Is it time to start taking Brock Holt seriously? When looking at his stats, he's been an above average hitter until last year. Maybe because he was older, I dunno.
Holt is a serious man on a serious mission. There must be some other way to get the job done without including Roberts in the equation. A bad platoon is better than a bad player.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 17, 2014 22:57:31 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Lin and Asuaje might become a decent middle infield combo. They appear to be coming into their own a little this year.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 17, 2014 23:10:53 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Lin and Asuaje might become a decent middle infield combo. They appear to be coming into their own a little this year. Asuaje is 4th in the league in BA, SA, and OPS, and 9th in OBP. However, looking at the OPS leaderboard and skipping over guys who are tool old for the league, after league leader Ryan McMahon, the Rockies' #8 prospect, the next 5 guys are not on their team's depth charts in the BA handbook. So most of the guys off to great starts have not been regarded as prospects. Still, a .357 / .438 / .595 start is encouraging. He needs to sustain it for a while longer before it becomes truly interesting. |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 18, 2014 4:59:55 GMT -5
Agreed Eric, and he is 22 already and was only drafted #11. To be drafted #11 by the Sox is like a 6th round choice though now in the Sox approach and he is solid overall. Guys can emerge at that level. He's not that far from becoming a top 40 prospect for us I would think.
He's starting to drive the ball. That's always a good sign.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 18, 2014 5:58:27 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Lin and Asuaje might become a decent middle infield combo. They appear to be coming into their own a little this year. Asuaje is decent, but Rijo is the other half of that exciting middle infield combo. |
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 18, 2014 6:18:48 GMT -5
Saw that Salem put up a snowman last night so ran for the details...uuuggggly!
8 on two singles!
Salem Top of the 10th
Matty Johnson strikes out swinging.
Jonathan Roof reaches on a fielding error by second baseman Todd Hankins.
Carson Blair walks. Jonathan Roof to 2nd.
David Chester reaches on a fielding error by shortstop Erik Gonzalez. Jonathan Roof to 3rd. Carson Blair to 2nd.
Kevin Heller strikes out swinging.
Reed Gragnani singles on a ground ball to right fielder Anthony Gallas. Jonathan Roof scores. Carson Blair scores. David Chester to 2nd.
Mario Martinez singles on a line drive to right fielder Anthony Gallas. David Chester scores. Reed Gragnani to 3rd.
Pitching Change: Carlos Melo replaces Rob Nixon.
Ryan Dent hit by pitch. Mario Martinez to 2nd.
Dreily Guerrero walks. Reed Gragnani scores. Mario Martinez to 3rd. Ryan Dent to 2nd.
Matty Johnson reaches on a fielding error by shortstop Erik Gonzalez. Mario Martinez scores. Ryan Dent scores. Dreily Guerrero scores. Matty Johnson to 3rd. Throwing error by center fielder Logan Vick.
With Jonathan Roof batting, wild pitch by Carlos Melo, Matty Johnson scores.
Jonathan Roof walks.
With Carson Blair batting, wild pitch by Carlos Melo, Jonathan Roof to 2nd.
Carson Blair walks.
David Chester grounds out, second baseman Todd Hankins to first baseman Charlie Valerio.
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