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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 22, 2014 20:44:13 GMT -5
Before paying out that kind of bonus I'm surprised that nobody in the scouting dept., especially a supervisor, picked up any red flags in a background check on this kid. I think they probably had some idea there were issues, but he was widely regarded as a first round talent so grabbing him in the 3rd for a 2nd round bonus was a risk they deemed worth taking.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 22, 2014 22:02:55 GMT -5
Before paying out that kind of bonus I'm surprised that nobody in the scouting dept., especially a supervisor, picked up any red flags in a background check on this kid. The Red Sox do about as good a job as any team when it comes to acquiring amateurs with good makeup, but they're still dealing with a bunch of teenagers. It's a credit to the organization that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, really.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 22, 2014 22:38:41 GMT -5
Before paying out that kind of bonus I'm surprised that nobody in the scouting dept., especially a supervisor, picked up any red flags in a background check on this kid. I think they probably had some idea there were issues, but he was widely regarded as a first round talent so grabbing him in the 3rd for a 2nd round bonus was a risk they deemed worth taking. And it's not like they were out on a limb on him. Denney was going to the Royals at the next pick if the Sox didn't take him. He had a deal worked out with them and was surprised to hear that it was the Sox and not the Royals who selected him.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jul 23, 2014 7:26:55 GMT -5
Before paying out that kind of bonus I'm surprised that nobody in the scouting dept., especially a supervisor, picked up any red flags in a background check on this kid. Even if they did the potential upside for getting a good player for just under 1 million is enormous. I think.you'd have to say Josh Hamilton's career is worth FAR in excess of 1 million dollars despite all of his issues. I think that's a perfect example as to why you don't release the kid. There's no real downside to keeping him, and if he does have considerable talent. If he can get his act togeather maybe he can back up Fischer at Lowell and if he can't so what?
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Post by juniorp90 on Aug 11, 2014 10:16:00 GMT -5
Does anyone know the status of Denney?
A few weeks ago I remember seeing him back in the lineup GCL team but this game was suspended, after that time I never heard from her status ... Does anyone know?
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Post by Marty Barrett Fan on Aug 11, 2014 10:23:50 GMT -5
He was placed back on the restricted list on 7/21/2014.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 16, 2015 11:43:26 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 2 min. Catcher Jon Denney, who missed all season after being arrested in spring training, was not invited to #RedSox minor league ST.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 16, 2015 11:50:28 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 2 min. Catcher Jon Denney, who missed all season after being arrested in spring training, was not invited to #RedSox minor league ST. Just release him?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 16, 2015 12:43:51 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 2 min. Catcher Jon Denney, who missed all season after being arrested in spring training, was not invited to #RedSox minor league ST. Just release him? Nah, no reason. Just leave him on the restricted list until his contract is up.
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Post by moonstone2 on Feb 16, 2015 13:22:50 GMT -5
Nah, no reason. Just leave him on the restricted list until his contract is up. If they release him...they have no right to recoup any portion of his bonus.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 16, 2015 13:24:25 GMT -5
Nah, no reason. Just leave him on the restricted list until his contract is up. If they release him...they have no right to recoup any portion of his bonus. Plus, he's probably free to sign with any other org. If there is any chance whatsoever that he gets his crap together, they paid for that chance.
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Post by moonstone2 on Feb 16, 2015 13:31:23 GMT -5
If they release him...they have no right to recoup any portion of his bonus. Plus, he's probably free to sign with any other org. If there is any chance whatsoever that he gets his crap together, they paid for that chance. No one would sign him....if he's released his next job is bagging groceries.
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Post by m1keyboots on Feb 16, 2015 14:35:31 GMT -5
Plus, he's probably free to sign with any other org. If there is any chance whatsoever that he gets his crap together, they paid for that chance. No one would sign him....if he's released his next job is bagging groceries. I may have to disagree. People rarely change, but some few do get their act together when it comes to this kind of stuff. I've seen it happen at my workplace, and although mine is not the redsox, if someone that has natural ability like him can take responsibility for his actions and make moves to change future behavior without asking for mulligans, why not give him another chance? Not saying devote resources and even large amount of time to him, but I feel like his next job will be baseball oriented, and not in the realm of skid row. Especially if the redsox are truthful in their claims of giving this guy the help he obviously needs (and hopefully for his sake, wants).
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 16, 2015 14:41:21 GMT -5
It's not like Kukuk, Britton, or Clay ever got 2nd chances right? I'm a little perplexed as to why this kid isn't getting a shot to redeem himself. I understand he's a bone head but it seems like they are giving up on high 3rd round pick where they've given less regarded screw ups another shot.
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Post by radiohix on Feb 16, 2015 14:44:59 GMT -5
It's not like Kukuk, Britton, or Clay ever got 2nd chances right? I'm a little perplexed as to why this kid isn't getting a shot to redeem himself. I understand he's a bone head but it seems like they are giving up on high 3rd round pick where they've given less regarded screw ups another shot. In his case we're talking about a 3rd chance.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 16, 2015 15:06:53 GMT -5
So Bobby Jenks in 2012, Drake Britton in 2013, and Denney in 2014. Any guesses on who the 2015 Annual Red Sox Spring Training DUI will be?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 16, 2015 15:14:28 GMT -5
Will you be there for the trophy presentation?
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Post by GyIantosca on Feb 16, 2015 16:01:01 GMT -5
I bet you they waited to see if this kid wants it or not. He probably didn't utilize any of the options the Sox have to get back on track. He probably stayed home and stewed all summer . Instead of making changes in his life and reporting to people like a Bob Tewksbury. Even though that's not his job. I just throwing a name out there. So the Sox are like kid were moving on. Leaving you behind. It's so obvious they drafted like 6 catchers
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Post by alnipper on Feb 16, 2015 20:08:23 GMT -5
If he hasn't changed his attitude, then the Sox won't want him to influence others in the organization.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 16, 2015 23:48:19 GMT -5
It's not like Kukuk, Britton, or Clay ever got 2nd chances right? I'm a little perplexed as to why this kid isn't getting a shot to redeem himself. I understand he's a bone head but it seems like they are giving up on high 3rd round pick where they've given less regarded screw ups another shot. Not sure that you realize this, based on your post, but he was brought back to Ft. Myers last year and then got sent home again. I'd suggest you read the rest of this thread if you are unfamiliar with the situation. Based on things I've heard, this is a very immature young man who has more or less pissed away his opportunity to play professional baseball.
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Post by greenmonstah on Feb 17, 2015 9:29:10 GMT -5
Well, we can officially close the book on our hopes of Denney ever being a meaningful prospect. His makeup was definitely the biggest knock on him when he was drafted, and he proved that right. However, if I got the opportunity to, I would still pick him again at that draft slot, it was worth taking a chance on a guy with that kind of upside in the 3rd.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 17, 2015 11:36:41 GMT -5
It's not like Kukuk, Britton, or Clay ever got 2nd chances right? I'm a little perplexed as to why this kid isn't getting a shot to redeem himself. I understand he's a bone head but it seems like they are giving up on high 3rd round pick where they've given less regarded screw ups another shot. Not sure that you realize this, based on your post, but he was brought back to Ft. Myers last year and then got sent home again. I'd suggest you read the rest of this thread if you are unfamiliar with the situation. Based on things I've heard, this is a very immature young man who has more or less pissed away his opportunity to play professional baseball. I had forgotten, thanks for the reminder. I also think Jrruso brings up some good points that more than likely that there are elements to this situation behind the scenes that we just don't see. If he was remorseful, and displayed a will to get back on track he'd likely be in minor league camp.
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Post by danr on Feb 17, 2015 23:50:43 GMT -5
This situation has to be worse than anything reported, and it probably is just as well that it isn't reported. The kid has screwed his baseball career. Now he has to figure out what to do with the rest of his life. No sense making it any harder on him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 18, 2015 2:14:07 GMT -5
Even if Denny is totally remorseful, he still has a tough road to hoe. He's a 20 year old catcher with 74 pro rookie level ABs and hasn't played in over a year.
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Post by nomar on Feb 18, 2015 22:47:47 GMT -5
This killed his development to the extent where if he was totally clean for the rest of his life I doubt he's ever a major leaguer. Bad time to miss over a year, especially considering his slow start in rookie ball.
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