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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2014 8:26:03 GMT -5
Interesting. I hadn't heard of that before. Obviously that isn't in play, but as a player I would want the team to offer less than 40%, because I could make a killing on the open market.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 16, 2014 8:28:36 GMT -5
Interesting. I hadn't heard of that before. Obviously that isn't in play, but as a player I would want the team to offer less than 40%, because I could make a killing on the open market. They would lose their protected pick next year, plus I think the Astro's would rather have him at 50% of their agreed amount with the "risk" they see rather than the 6.5M deal with him passing the physical. They want to sign him, they just want a discount.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 16, 2014 9:31:46 GMT -5
Interesting. I hadn't heard of that before. Obviously that isn't in play, but as a player I would want the team to offer less than 40%, because I could make a killing on the open market. Short of a career-threatening issue, there is literally no situation in which a team would offer less than 40% without the assent of the player. You lose the slot and you lose the comp. pick and you get nothing for it.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 16, 2014 16:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2014 4:19:17 GMT -5
It also shouldn't go unnoticed that Mark Appel is having such a bad year that some analysts are suggesting bullpen already. He's been all over twitter recently.
He's at Lancaster and we all know the Lancaster affect, still, one tweet I saw said Appel has the highest ERA at Lancaster for any pitcher with 30+ innings for at least the past ten years which means he's sucked worse than ANY Red Sox pitcher at Lancaster.
Many tweets, for example:
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 6h
Astros have three options with Appel - promote, demote, rest. "None of the above" isn't a valid choice.
I'm guessing Astros management team is on incredibly shaky ground right now. San Andreas Fault shaky (It goes right through Lancaster, LOL).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2014 5:42:49 GMT -5
Buster Olney ?@buster_ESPN 20m The grandson of a legend has been promoted to Class AA, after only a month in Class A. www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-orioles-minors-roster-moves-20140716,0,4961000.story … Showalter raved about him... I'm curious, can anyone think of any reasonably significant player that was drafted twice by the same team ? I can't think of any offhand and Yaz of course was drafted out of high school by the Sox.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2014 6:00:05 GMT -5
Why does the PCL exist? I don't understand why any team would want players playing there...
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 17, 2014 6:07:00 GMT -5
I feel bad for him that he's going to get undeserved attention because of his last name. I guess he could be a major leaguer but he's really not much of a prospect, is he? A 23 year old who went to Vandy hitting well in A ball is nothing to get excited about. That may seem overly negative but if/when he stalls at the upper levels people will label him a "disappointment" because they don't realize what he is.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2014 6:14:44 GMT -5
That's probably true. I remember when the Sox drafted him that the opinions of him as a player weren't all that high. We didn't spend a lot of time fretting on his going to Vandy instead of joining the Sox. It's also why I used the expression 'reasonably significant' rather than 'good prospect' above.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2014 11:16:40 GMT -5
Interesting side-notes to Aikengate. When the Astros had their offer at $5.6m, they offered 5th rounder Jacob Nix $1.5m. When they reduced their price, it also allowed them the money to offer 21st rounder Mac Marshall $1.5m. What makes this interesting is that they won't have the cap room to sign either if they don't sign Aiken. What makes this incredibly interesting is that Aiken and Nix are friends, both committed to UCLA and believe it or not, have the same agent, Casey Close. I'm guessing this isn't going to work out very well for Mr. Marshall and that Mr. Close's biggest concern is Mr. Close. www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24624060/draft-dispute-is-ugly-but-astros-and-aiken-both-need-to-work-it-out
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 17, 2014 11:19:33 GMT -5
Aiken doesn't "need" to work it out, and Heyman wouldn't use that language if it was a Boras client.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 17, 2014 11:51:15 GMT -5
Interesting side-notes to Aikengate. When the Astros had their offer at $5.6m, they offered 5th rounder Jacob Nix $1.5m. When they reduced their price, it also allowed them the money to offer 21st rounder Mac Marshall $1.5m. What makes this interesting is that they won't have the cap room to sign either if they don't sign Aiken. What makes this incredibly interesting is that Aiken and Nix are friends, both committed to UCLA and believe it or not, have the same agent, Casey Close. I'm guessing this isn't going to work out very well for Mr. Marshall and that Mr. Close's biggest concern is Mr. Close. www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24624060/draft-dispute-is-ugly-but-astros-and-aiken-both-need-to-work-it-out If neither ends up signed will either one be eligible for UCLA as the ncaa rules on hiring an agent? Seems like if Aiken has the elbow ligament problem or concern than he might be better off taking the 3M+ bonus and signing as he might not be eligible for NCAA ball if that is true.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 17, 2014 14:46:25 GMT -5
That's probably true. I remember when the Sox drafted him that the opinions of him as a player weren't all that high. We didn't spend a lot of time fretting on his going to Vandy instead of joining the Sox. It's also why I used the expression 'reasonably significant' rather than 'good prospect' above. That's really not fair, given both the kid's and his Grandpa's promise to his now deceased father to finish college 1st.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 17, 2014 16:44:13 GMT -5
Interesting side-notes to Aikengate. When the Astros had their offer at $5.6m, they offered 5th rounder Jacob Nix $1.5m. When they reduced their price, it also allowed them the money to offer 21st rounder Mac Marshall $1.5m. What makes this interesting is that they won't have the cap room to sign either if they don't sign Aiken. What makes this incredibly interesting is that Aiken and Nix are friends, both committed to UCLA and believe it or not, have the same agent, Casey Close. I'm guessing this isn't going to work out very well for Mr. Marshall and that Mr. Close's biggest concern is Mr. Close. www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24624060/draft-dispute-is-ugly-but-astros-and-aiken-both-need-to-work-it-out If neither ends up signed will either one be eligible for UCLA as the ncaa rules on hiring an agent? Seems like if Aiken has the elbow ligament problem or concern than he might be better off taking the 3M+ bonus and signing as he might not be eligible for NCAA ball if that is true. Close is not his agent, he is a "family adviser." Very important and not at all phony distinction.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 18, 2014 18:20:53 GMT -5
Houston didn't sign Aiken, Nix or Marshall. Reports are that their final offer was $5m. Kendall Rogers ?@kendallrogerspg 1h Interesting RT evandrellich: “We tried to engage Casey Close three times today … there was no interest” — GM Jeff Luhnow tells Chronicle I'm guessing Close is another sleazeball, but that's opinion, destroyed the future of three kids. Agents, wonderful class of humanity... Edit: Yes, I know, "family adviser", LOL.
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Post by jmei on Jul 18, 2014 18:23:47 GMT -5
(There's extensive discussion of the above in the draft thread, btw-- let's keep the majority of that talk there.)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 19, 2014 5:36:19 GMT -5
That's probably true. I remember when the Sox drafted him that the opinions of him as a player weren't all that high. We didn't spend a lot of time fretting on his going to Vandy instead of joining the Sox. It's also why I used the expression 'reasonably significant' rather than 'good prospect' above. That's really not fair, given both the kid's and his Grandpa's promise to his now deceased father to finish college 1st. Joe (Chicago) Is Mike Yastrzemski legit? Klaw (2:05 PM) No. Very limited tools, older guy who beat up on younger competition in A-ball.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 19, 2014 20:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 20, 2014 22:58:15 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 21, 2014 8:53:51 GMT -5
That's great. I liked the part where Pooch hit a HR and they show footage of him fouling off a ball.
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Post by raftsox on Jul 21, 2014 10:37:55 GMT -5
Not delving into the Aiken thing, but rather the Astros drafts of late.
I loved the Correa draft pick in 2012, and aside from a broken leg it's looked brilliant. Their 2013 draft was a bit underwhelming; they should have drafted Gray or Bryant, and I think they knew that at the time. But this year really baffles me. Given the proximity of their minor league talent I don't know why they didn't draft Rodon. Their 2015 ML roster could very realistically have Correa, Springer, Singleton, Castro, Altuve, Keuchel and McHugh. Now, if they went with Gray instead of Appel you can add him to that mix (but it's nitpicky because Appel was still a good pick). But this season's pick of Aiken is the most confusing: they had a chance to have a competitive core, and choose to add a HS lefty instead of a "basically ML ready" college arm that was a consensus #1 pick for the previous 2 years?
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 25, 2014 9:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 29, 2014 19:27:08 GMT -5
LOL, no thanks on watching the above video.
Jeff Dooley ?@jdooleysports 30m @rockcats and @twins prospect Jose Berrios leaves game injured in 2nd inning. Injured himself after throwing 48th pitch of game.
It should be noted that Berrios was the replacement starter for Kohl Stewart who has had shoulder tightness following a long bus trip 9 days ago. Twins have had more than their share of minors injuries this year.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 21:30:36 GMT -5
Mike Berardino ?@mikeberardino 55m Source tells me it was indeed shoulder tightness that forced RHP J.O. Berrios from tonight's start after 48 pitches.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 29, 2014 21:40:25 GMT -5
Interesting Joey Gallo 2 year HR spray chart: Credit: Daren Willman ?@darenw twitter
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