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Post by jbberlo22 on Sept 2, 2012 14:25:52 GMT -5
Why is Fields ranked in the mid-fifties as a prospect? He has been lights out this year and looks like he could be a legitimate late inning reliever.
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Post by planb on Sept 2, 2012 17:29:13 GMT -5
My guess is because he's older, turned 27 in August...definitely had a very good season and could contend for a bullpen spot next season.
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 2, 2012 18:42:08 GMT -5
Fields, along with Chris Carpenter and Michael Olmstead, present interesting bullpen options for the club in 2013 and for off-season trade possibilities
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Post by jmei on Sept 3, 2012 11:22:05 GMT -5
This team is rolling in right-handed relievers who have very good to excellent minor league stats and decent to good scouting reports (Tazawa, Wilson, Carpenter, Kurcz, Fields, Olmsted, Huntzinger, etc.), but there obviously aren't spots for them all on the big league team, especially when you consider that Bard, Bailey, Aceves, and Melancon are probably the first four in line in 2013 (with Hill, Miller, and Breslow at the lefty relievers).
That depth is obviously excellent, but I imagine at least a few of those pitchers will be traded by the start of 2013, and there's a small chance that one or more of the Rule 5/MiLB FA eligible guys (Wilson, Olmsted, Fields, Huntzinger) won't be added to the 40-man and will be poached by other organizations.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 3, 2012 17:35:59 GMT -5
Boy we do have lots of depth with respect to, especially, right handed relievers. Josh Field was HIGHLY thought of coming into his draft year. Love to see us be able to give him a chance, but certainly we will lose some of these guys in Rule 5, etc.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 3, 2012 22:37:15 GMT -5
Fields had great months of May, July, and August, but his stats in April and June are ok at best. He has great potential, and if he actually has harnessed his stuff, he could be a good bullpen arm. However, I'm not getting excited until he does this again next year and shows he can do it in the bigs. I've seen too many Jason Rices, Jermaine Van Burens, and Fernando Cabreras to get excited about reliever stats until they do it at the next level. Same goes for the Huntzingers and Olmsteds of the world.
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Post by elguapo on Sept 4, 2012 14:41:34 GMT -5
I think the Sox will be judicious in protecting guys who "could be good bullpen arms" as far as the 40-man goes.
Olmsted is an exception as he could be the most exciting Sox reliever since Garces was retired, unless Classic Bard is more your kind of thing.
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Post by amfox1 on Sept 4, 2012 15:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2012 20:55:07 GMT -5
Well that would explain why he was bad early. The first few weeks of the year I recall there being a point where he was by far the worst pitcher in the system.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 9, 2012 11:35:02 GMT -5
This team is rolling in right-handed relievers who have very good to excellent minor league stats and decent to good scouting reports (Tazawa, Wilson, Carpenter, Kurcz, Fields, Olmsted, Huntzinger, etc.), but there obviously aren't spots for them all on the big league team, especially when you consider that Bard, Bailey, Aceves, and Melancon are probably the first four in line in 2013 (with Hill, Miller, and Breslow at the lefty relievers). That depth is obviously excellent, but I imagine at least a few of those pitchers will be traded by the start of 2013, and there's a small chance that one or more of the Rule 5/MiLB FA eligible guys (Wilson, Olmsted, Fields, Huntzinger) won't be added to the 40-man and will be poached by other organizations. Anybody think we should try and move Aceves in the offseason?
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Post by jmei on Sept 9, 2012 15:38:41 GMT -5
I would certainly explore trading Aceves and would strongly consider no-tendering him if there was no trade interest.
First, I don't think that trading Aceves would hurt the team on the field. His xFIPs the last two years have been 4.77 and 4.40, and other than being rubber-armed, I just don't think he's very good when it comes down to it-- he doesn't strike out enough hitters or get enough groundballs to offset his below-average command.
I also think there are at least 4 right-handed relievers as good or better better than him in the bullpen (Bard, Bailey, Melancon, Tazawa), and guys like Mortenson and Atchinson can fill the long-relief role that Aceves would project to fill next season at a similar level. Note that all of the above guys are either out of options or good enough that you wouldn't want to option them. And behind them, you have that long list of other right-handed relievers I mentioned above.
It's also clear he won't be the closer next season (unless an epic wave of injuries hits), and he's a volatile personality who likely won't take that decision well. He's not good enough for it to be worth putting up with his tantrums.
One caveat: I might consider shifting him back to the rotation if there are rotation spots in play in January and you can't find a trade partner. He probably won't be very good in that role, but he does seem to have the stamina to handle starting and he'll be cheap. But honestly, I don't think he's worth it, and if he's a legitimate rotation contender, the Red Sox have much bigger problems.
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Post by gator39 on Sept 9, 2012 19:53:54 GMT -5
You are forgetting how great Aceves was last year. I believe he was just out of place as a closer & can get back to last years performance. If he is moved back into that role.
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Post by jmei on Sept 9, 2012 21:03:29 GMT -5
Aceves only put up the ERA he put up last year due to unsustainable BABIP luck (.231 is significantly below the league average of roughly .300). He had a K/9 of 6.32 and a BB/9 of 3.32, both of which are very mediocre for a reliever.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Sept 9, 2012 22:49:38 GMT -5
With the depth that the Red Sox have in AAA, AAAA, MLB relievers; there is really little reason not to trade an Aceves to give guys like Josh Fields a shot.
In the end, I can't imagine the performance being worse than Aceves and it is likely that atleast one of those guys turns out to be better.
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