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Post by jmei on Jul 14, 2014 13:12:36 GMT -5
WEEI has a neat little article on (life-long Red Sox fan) Nick Longhi, complete with some interesting quotes. Here's Lowell hitting coach Noah Hall: Hall makes a great point here-- Longhi's only 18 (he was one of the younger hitters in that draft class), and we shouldn't expect a ton of in-game power from him until he matures physically and further refines his approach at the plate. Guys like Devers who can hit for a crapton of power when they're teenagers are exceptionally rare, and Longhi's an exceptionally fascinating guy to watch even though he doesn't put up impressive power numbers.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 14, 2014 13:17:07 GMT -5
Thanks for linking that article in.
He's quickly becoming one of my favorite prospects in the low minors. Going to be fun to see how well he does at greenville next season as a 19YO and agree, the power should come eventually. We just all need to hope he doesn't get into a bad habit of chasing, extending his swing early on for more power.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 14, 2014 15:50:42 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2014 16:13:05 GMT -5
It's going to be really easy to root for this kid. Longhi is an interesting prospect.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jul 14, 2014 16:30:17 GMT -5
It's hard to understand how he dropped to round 30. Of course signability had to be somewhat of a factor. Teams thinking he wanted more money or expected more money. Maybe the 1st round thing scared people off. Even so...round 30?
It seems possible that the even the Redsox considered him a back up plan. They had other targets which seemed bigger in terms of signability. I think he was a solid pick for the money.
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Post by justfacts on Jul 22, 2014 16:01:42 GMT -5
It's hard to understand how he dropped to round 30. Of course signability had to be somewhat of a factor. Teams thinking he wanted more money or expected more money. Maybe the 1st round thing scared people off. Even so...round 30? It seems possible that the even the Redsox considered him a back up plan. They had other targets which seemed bigger in terms of signability. I think he was a solid pick for the money. Not a back up plan at all, you don't pay a back up plan 400K, it was viewed that he had a strong commitment to LSU. However when Sox stepped in it became interesting. Family from Mass and Nick has been a lifelong Red Sox fan. First round talent, see the results for yourself! Stop speculating and just look at the results! The other nonsense above is just nonsense!
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Post by lennsakata on Jul 22, 2014 17:23:00 GMT -5
It's hard to understand how he dropped to round 30. Of course signability had to be somewhat of a factor. Teams thinking he wanted more money or expected more money. Maybe the 1st round thing scared people off. Even so...round 30?. Didn't he bat like .285 or something his senior year? Even if you like the tools if a guy appears to have a strong college committment and us coming off that kind of year then maybe he's not the guy many teams would want to overextend themselves for.
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Post by justfacts on Jul 22, 2014 17:33:46 GMT -5
It's hard to understand how he dropped to round 30. Of course signability had to be somewhat of a factor. Teams thinking he wanted more money or expected more money. Maybe the 1st round thing scared people off. Even so...round 30?. Didn't he bat like .285 or something his senior year? Even if you like the tools if a guy appears to have a strong college committment and us coming off that kind of year then maybe he's not the guy many teams would want to overextend themselves for. Doesn't matter what a kid bats, and here's why it's frustrating for someone like myself(who gets paid to decide these things I.E. Pro scout) not a blogger to decide. Tools are tools. The reason I say it doesn't matter is simple for more than one reason, however how many pitches do you think Longhi saw in high school? You don't think he was pitched around? And to question he hits .285 in high school yet goes out and hits over .300 in pro ball just shows me your a Monday morning QB! Furthermore, did you see his Area Code stats? His FTB stats? When he couldn't be pitched around! Things like this come into play not a high school batting AVG! And a little hint for the future, tools are tools! Guys who can but will always hit! Nick has proven he can hit. I commend the Sox effort and stradegy for attaining Nick, any other club he'd be at LSU. Do you research beyond a HS Avg my friend.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2014 17:42:19 GMT -5
Didn't he bat like .285 or something his senior year? Even if you like the tools if a guy appears to have a strong college committment and us coming off that kind of year then maybe he's not the guy many teams would want to overextend themselves for. Doesn't matter what a kid bats, and here's why it's frustrating for someone like myself(who gets paid to decide these things I.E. Pro scout) not a blogger to decide. Tools are tools. The reason I say it doesn't matter is simple for more than one reason, however how many pitches do you think Longhi saw in high school? You don't think he was pitched around? And to question he hits .285 in high school yet goes out and hits over .300 in pro ball just shows me your a Monday morning QB! Furthermore, did you see his Area Code stats? His FTB stats? When he couldn't be pitched around! Things like this come into play not a high school batting AVG! And a little hint for the future, tools are tools! Guys who can but will always hit! Nick has proven he can hit. I commend the Sox effort and stradegy for attaining Nick, any other club he'd be at LSU. Do you research beyond a HS Avg my friend. I think he is commenting on why he slipped...not on the overall evaluation.... It is well-documented that he slipped due to both strong commitment and a subpar senior year. BTW, he hit in the bottom of the order in HS...he was surrounded by other solid talent. fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/07/11/red-sox-agree-to-deal-with-nick-longhi/
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Post by justfacts on Jul 22, 2014 17:51:22 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what a kid bats, and here's why it's frustrating for someone like myself(who gets paid to decide these things I.E. Pro scout) not a blogger to decide. Tools are tools. The reason I say it doesn't matter is simple for more than one reason, however how many pitches do you think Longhi saw in high school? You don't think he was pitched around? And to question he hits .285 in high school yet goes out and hits over .300 in pro BTW, he hit in the bottom of the order in HS...he was surrounded by other solid talent. fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/07/11/red-sox-agree-to-deal-with-nick-longhi/His many if his HS games did you go to? Talent? Surrounded him? Who? Name them! Clueless! Total fantasy land trying to make yourself sound important comment
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2014 17:55:58 GMT -5
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Post by lennsakata on Jul 22, 2014 18:05:04 GMT -5
Didn't he bat like .285 or something his senior year? Even if you like the tools if a guy appears to have a strong college committment and us coming off that kind of year then maybe he's not the guy many teams would want to overextend themselves for. Doesn't matter what a kid bats, and here's why it's frustrating for someone like myself(who gets paid to decide these things I.E. Pro scout) not a blogger to decide. Tools are tools. The reason I say it doesn't matter is simple for more than one reason, however how many pitches do you think Longhi saw in high school? You don't think he was pitched around? And to question he hits .285 in high school yet goes out and hits over .300 in pro ball just shows me your a Monday morning QB! Furthermore, did you see his Area Code stats? His FTB stats? When he couldn't be pitched around! Things like this come into play not a high school batting AVG! And a little hint for the future, tools are tools! Guys who can but will always hit! Nick has proven he can hit. I commend the Sox effort and stradegy for attaining Nick, any other club he'd be at LSU. Do you research beyond a HS Avg my friend. Can't tell if this is troll account or not. I clearly stated that stats don't mean everything but that even if a team liked his skill set maybe his asking price was too high to overlook his poor season
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Post by jmei on Jul 22, 2014 18:10:35 GMT -5
His many if his HS games did you go to? Talent? Surrounded him? Who? Name them! Clueless! Total fantasy land trying to make yourself sound important comment You need to tone down your level of antagonism-- it's totally uncalled for.
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Post by justfacts on Jul 22, 2014 18:11:27 GMT -5
Not trolling at all, I don't even know what a troll is! First time ever doing a forum because unlike you guys I don't need this fantasy land to play in! I'm actually in the game! Baseball America doesn't have a pick, I don't know anyone in the game who reads it! Go back and look at their "mock drafts" if they hit on 10% of what they say I'd be suprised! Stacked Venice lineup, c'mon! Who else was in that lineup? Have any of you guys ever seen them play? Anyone? Everyone here reads **** online and reproduces it as fact. At 18 Longhi goes out and plays his *** of for you guys and you "good fans in the know" knock the kid! C'mon boys what are you doing! Again though you got Jackie Bradley to fix all your woes, he went in the 1st/ comp round he should be good!
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Post by justfacts on Jul 22, 2014 18:14:12 GMT -5
His many if his HS games did you go to? Talent? Surrounded him? Who? Name them! Clueless! Total fantasy land trying to make yourself sound important comment You need to tone down your level of antagonism-- it's totally uncalled for. Why? It's an honest question! He's telling me Longhi hit in bottom of the lineup do to better players! Has he seen Venice to say that? Or is he quoting an online source? His can he say that without seeing them play? Or is he speculating about an 18 year old kid who's life dream it was to play for the Sox? Playing his heart out for you guys and this is the return?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 22, 2014 18:20:36 GMT -5
justfacts - This may be news to you, but we're all just fans trying to enjoy the game. If you have as much insight as you say then we will all be thrilled to have you on the board. You'll be able to supplement what we have now, which is the stats, the public write-ups, and a handful of firsthand looks. Please try to help the forums have an open an honest conversation about a player and stop trying to pick fights. We welcome your opinions of Longhi especially as it seems you may know him first hand.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 22, 2014 18:22:14 GMT -5
You need to tone down your level of antagonism-- it's totally uncalled for. Why? It's an honest question! He's telling me Longhi hit in bottom of the lineup do to better players! Has he seen Venice to say that? Or is he quoting an online source? His can he say that without seeing them play? Or is he speculating about an 18 year old kid who's life dream it was to play for the Sox? Playing his heart out for you guys and this is the return? And I'm not sure why you think people are picking on Longhi or treating him unfairly. Several people have come out recently and spoken very highly of him. He has shot up the prospect rankings on this site and I can confidently say that we all want him to do well.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 22, 2014 23:36:38 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what a kid bats, Stop speculating and just look at the results! Ohhhh... kaaaaay.....
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Post by cdj on Jul 23, 2014 12:29:03 GMT -5
Well.......As for Longhi, I really liked the pick and he has done nothing to change that opinion in my mind. Can't wait until those doubles turn into homers down the road like we all hope they do.
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Post by raftsox on Jul 23, 2014 14:53:58 GMT -5
Not trolling at all, I don't even know what a troll is! 1First time ever doing a forum because unlike you guys I don't need this fantasy land to play in! I'm actually in the game! 2Baseball America doesn't have a pick, I don't know anyone in the game who reads it! Go back and look at their "mock drafts" if they hit on 10% of what they say I'd be suprised! 3Stacked Venice lineup, c'mon! Who else was in that lineup? 4Have any of you guys ever seen them play? Anyone? Everyone here reads **** online and reproduces it as fact. At 18 Longhi goes out and plays his *** of for you guys and you "good fans in the know" knock the kid! C'mon boys what are you doing! Again though you got Jackie Bradley to fix all your woes, he went in the 1st/ comp round he should be good! 1 - Simply by the way you worded that response, you clearly know what trolling and a troll are. Had you not you would have written "Not trolling at all, I don't even know what trolling is." 2 - This is a "look at me" statement. Wanton use of exclamation marks while insulting everyone here and saying how much better you are isn't conducive to getting anyone to actually believe you're "in the game". 3 - I would assume that many people "in the game" read BA; for example: players include clauses in their contracts that give them bonuses when on BA top XX lists. Many BA staffers go on to work in scouting departments or front offices throughout MLB. Theo Epstein on a recent Alex Speier podcast mentioned BA lists several times. 4 - Just use the wonders of Google. I haven't bothered to cross reference whether any of his teammates have been drafted in recent years. Amazingly the people who frequent this site don't come here for communal ball-washing or to be wowed by "A PRO-SCOUT! OMG!!"; you can go to Boston.com for that sort of imagined glory. IF you're actually a pro-scout, and IF you have any actual insight into the players then describe the pros and cons of their game. I'm sure Ryan Lavarnway plays his ass off too, as did Ryan Dent and Che Hsuan Chaing and many others who didn't produce in the majors, but have had solid MiL seasons. Give us insight rather than angst.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 23, 2014 15:14:59 GMT -5
Venice HS had two draftees in 2014.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 23, 2014 15:33:44 GMT -5
Trolling: the practice of coming on a discussion forum, implying greater knowledge while offering no actual content, and writing inflammatory content designed to pick a fight and divert discussion.
Back to Longhi, he's playing RF now, but the blurb on this site says he's "likely" to end up on LF or 1B. Anyone get a look at him this year as an outfielder? His bat is intriguing, no doubt.
I think I chose him to have the biggest jump in rankings this year in the prediction contest, so maybe I should be pumping his tires a little bit more ...
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 23, 2014 15:37:23 GMT -5
Nick Longhi ?@nicklonghi25327 1h Surgery tomorrow... Out for the season... Not the best news I've ever gotten #pissed
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Post by sittingstill on Jul 23, 2014 15:39:13 GMT -5
Well, the post has been quoted, the barn door's open and the horse is gone, but as it seems he's deleted the tweet, I'm going to do likewise.
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Post by cdj on Jul 23, 2014 15:45:06 GMT -5
That is not a particularly pleasant sounding injury.
Hope he comes back strong next year.
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