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Post by dnfl333 on May 14, 2017 17:34:33 GMT -5
Need to check fielding stats Best defensive 1B in South Atlantic League 2015 @19 yrs Best Defensive 1B in Carolina League @ 20 yrs Baseball America vote I mean last year 856 touches 1 error that in my book is pretty good defensively. Lol 21 in AA is very young, power, loft will come not worried. Also, FLD% and BA awards (which are voted on by polling managers etc) aren't great sources for a player's defensive ability. Ryan Lavarnway won best defensive catcher in the IL, for example. And a player who makes 5 errors on 1000 touches is better than a guy who makes 1 on 856, if they're seeing all the same plays, because the first guy got you 140 more outs. Nobody here is "knocking" Longhi. We all (barring any NY lurkers) want him to succeed. Who doesn't like the late-round success story? For my part, I'm just trying to be realistic about it. The OBPCT has been pretty good overall last few seasons. This year thus far its early. Weather in New England, new level, new home for the season and all that factors into it. We can talk about loft in his swing and all the tools that need further seasoning which can give the player a low projection. I understand that The point I was trying to make was, the player at every level has adjusted and succeeded. No matter how you spin it, the Player should be in the Top 10 of Redsox prospects by any publication.
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Post by telson13 on May 14, 2017 19:15:15 GMT -5
Also, FLD% and BA awards (which are voted on by polling managers etc) aren't great sources for a player's defensive ability. Ryan Lavarnway won best defensive catcher in the IL, for example. And a player who makes 5 errors on 1000 touches is better than a guy who makes 1 on 856, if they're seeing all the same plays, because the first guy got you 140 more outs. Nobody here is "knocking" Longhi. We all (barring any NY lurkers) want him to succeed. Who doesn't like the late-round success story? For my part, I'm just trying to be realistic about it. The OBPCT has been pretty good overall last few seasons. This year thus far its early. Weather in New England, new level, new home for the season and all that factors into it. We can talk about loft in his swing and all the tools that need further seasoning which can give the player a low projection. I understand that The point I was trying to make was, the player at every level has adjusted and succeeded. No matter how you spin it, the Player should be in the Top 10 of Redsox prospects by any publication. His inclusion in the top-10 is entirely debateable. There are plenty of players in the 6-14 range, as Chris noted, who have valid cases for inclusion. Longhi has a career isoD in the 0.50 range, which is solid but not spectacular by any stretch. His career OBP is around .340. He hits doubles but not HR. He doesn't steal bases. And he's ranked 11th...quibbling over one spot seems kind of excessive, especially when you keep referring to him as "the player" and not even referring to him directly by name.
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Post by telson13 on May 14, 2017 22:14:29 GMT -5
Actually, FWIW, I think spots 15-17 are in the mix, too. Both Anderson and Shawaryn are looking more and more like viable back-end or better starters, which would be more valuable than a 100-110 WRC+/ above-avg defensive 1b. We'll see if Longhi heats up when the weather does; I like the 40 doubles in Salem, that's for sure.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 14, 2017 23:03:15 GMT -5
Hard to believe why he is so overrated by some posters.
Whatis his positional value? 1B or LF How about his baserunning? Below average Can he drive the ball often? Not at all. His GB% is too high. Can he get on base? No. His BB% is 5.5%.
Ok. He is young. He plays in AA. Hopefully he could be something. Who knows? But for now he isn't a legit prospect.
Devers and Groome are elite prospects. Chavis and Ockimey are showing great power. Also we have lots of intriguing arms though their ceiling isn't high. I am sure their values are higher than Longhi's.
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Post by jmei on May 19, 2017 9:22:13 GMT -5
Despite the bullish reports on Longhi's swing mechanic adjustments coming out of spring training, he's hitting 56% ground balls in Portland (in line with his career ground-ball-heavy profile-- 49% and 52.1% the last two years).
Compare that to, say, Devers, whose breakout is at least in part driven by his elevating the ball more (42.1% GB this year, compared to 46.5% and 53.1% the last two years).
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Post by dnfl333 on May 20, 2017 21:22:42 GMT -5
Despite the bullish reports on Longhi's swing mechanic adjustments coming out of spring training, he's hitting 56% ground balls in Portland (in line with his career ground-ball-heavy profile-- 49% and 52.1% the last two years). Compare that to, say, Devers, whose breakout is at least in part driven by his elevating the ball more (42.1% GB this year, compared to 46.5% and 53.1% the last two years). 920 ops the past month .340 13 RBI with runners in scoring position and all I hear about is ground ball ratio.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 20, 2017 22:51:13 GMT -5
Despite the bullish reports on Longhi's swing mechanic adjustments coming out of spring training, he's hitting 56% ground balls in Portland (in line with his career ground-ball-heavy profile-- 49% and 52.1% the last two years). Compare that to, say, Devers, whose breakout is at least in part driven by his elevating the ball more (42.1% GB this year, compared to 46.5% and 53.1% the last two years). 920 ops the past month .340 13 RBI with runners in scoring position and all I hear about is ground ball ratio. Not from the Bill Lee school? I recall Lee once discussing his penchant/desire for inducing ground balls was because when balls were hit in the air "two of the three (possible outcomes) were bad".
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Post by telson13 on May 21, 2017 1:57:32 GMT -5
Despite the bullish reports on Longhi's swing mechanic adjustments coming out of spring training, he's hitting 56% ground balls in Portland (in line with his career ground-ball-heavy profile-- 49% and 52.1% the last two years). Compare that to, say, Devers, whose breakout is at least in part driven by his elevating the ball more (42.1% GB this year, compared to 46.5% and 53.1% the last two years). 920 ops the past month .340 13 RBI with runners in scoring position and all I hear about is ground ball ratio. .265 with an OPS well under .700. That's why you're hearing about groundball ratio. His approach is, as the Talking Heads used to say, "same as it ever was." If he keeps up that .920 OPS for the rest of the year and has the batted ball profile to explain a real development, then we're talking about something.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 23, 2017 19:09:30 GMT -5
920 ops the past month .340 13 RBI with runners in scoring position and all I hear about is ground ball ratio. .265 with an OPS well under .700. That's why you're hearing about groundball ratio. His approach is, as the Talking Heads used to say, "same as it ever was." If he keeps up that .920 OPS for the rest of the year and has the batted ball profile to explain a real development, then we're talking about something. Agreed.....
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Post by jondrink on May 23, 2017 20:19:35 GMT -5
.265 with an OPS well under .700. That's why you're hearing about groundball ratio. His approach is, as the Talking Heads used to say, "same as it ever was." If he keeps up that .920 OPS for the rest of the year and has the batted ball profile to explain a real development, then we're talking about something. Agreed..... . Oppo bomb tonight for Longhi RCF first game 410',line drive single also. Second game first AB missed another to RF by a couple feet. Keep it in the air kid!!
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Post by SALNotes on May 25, 2017 17:44:11 GMT -5
He's a strong dude, would like to see the flyball get up to at least 30%.
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