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Post by jimed14 on Jul 23, 2014 17:54:35 GMT -5
You have to be one of the ten smallest markets or be one of the ten teams with the lowest revenues. The Cardinals are actually there. The rest of the draft rewards for being bad.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 23, 2014 18:52:42 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 5m Pirates, Giants, Brewers and Royals all had scouts who saw Peavy last night. Cardinals did not.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 23, 2014 21:27:05 GMT -5
Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 5m Tigers' trade for Joakim Soria will be finalized once physical exams are completed, source says. Players are agreed upon.
Josh Norris ?@jnorris427 15s As ranked in our midseason prospect handbook, the #Rangers just acquired the #Tigers' No. 2 and 4 prospects in Thompson/Knebel.
Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 47s The Yankees have a scout in Chicago to watch Ian Kennedy pitch for the Padres tonight. @foxsports1
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 23, 2014 21:50:31 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid haul for Soria...I'm a fan of Jake Thompson and Knebel is no slouch either.
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Post by jdb on Jul 23, 2014 21:55:04 GMT -5
We have to dump Koji if we're out of it. Someone will pay and he'll be 40 next year.
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Post by cdj on Jul 23, 2014 21:55:43 GMT -5
Closers keep getting huge haul.
Makes me wonder what we could get for Koji.
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Post by jmei on Jul 23, 2014 22:05:18 GMT -5
Both those guys have an extra year of team control, though.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 23, 2014 22:08:30 GMT -5
Talk about rebuilding any value at Petco.. That is hilarious and moving him to NY for anything of value would be even funnier. Peavy has as much (if not) more talent than does Kennedy for those who haven't watched him the last couple of years.
If they can con NY into giving anything up for him, then get Peavy for just about anything as his replacement, it's a perfect win-win scenario.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 23, 2014 22:25:17 GMT -5
Closers keep getting huge haul. Makes me wonder what we could get for Koji. TEX got two B- prospects for Soria, who has a $7mm team option for next year. SDO got a B- and two C+ prospects for Street, who has a $7mm team option for next year. We would not be getting much more for Uehara than TEX or SD received. Given that BOS likely wants quality over quantity, we're probably talking about one B prospect.
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Post by cdj on Jul 23, 2014 23:13:50 GMT -5
Closers keep getting huge haul. Makes me wonder what we could get for Koji. TEX got two B- prospects for Soria, who has a $7mm team option for next year. SDO got a B- and two C+ prospects for Street, who has a $7mm team option for next year. We would not be getting much more for Uehara than TEX or SD received. Given that BOS likely wants quality over quantity, we're probably talking about one B prospect. I personally think you are underselling Knebel and Alvarez respectively (both are potential closer replacements for Soria and Street in a couple of years, and both have been downright dominant against minor leaguers) and on top of that Lindsay was a top 100 guy coming into the year. Now Uehara doesn't have the options like the others do, but I feel the return for him could be quite strong considering he is coming off the best relief season ever last year and an almost as good year this season.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 23, 2014 23:20:42 GMT -5
Let's hope you are the one negotiating on the other side then.
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Post by cdj on Jul 23, 2014 23:28:37 GMT -5
If only.
The Sox would end up with Glasnow and Bell if that were the case haha
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 24, 2014 5:41:57 GMT -5
So, what's the upside to not trading him? They're not making the playoffs. They're not gonna get a draft pick for him. They can still re-sign him in the offseason even if they trade him, although it may make it slightly more difficult (personally I think this is overrated, if he loves it here and you sit down with him and explain the situation before trading him I don't think it'd be an issue). I'll take one B prospect for 2 months of a 39 year old reliever in a heartbeat, thank you.
Ditto for Lester. It's time to give up this "Wow we won a few games we're right back in it!" nonsense and look to the future.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 24, 2014 6:00:59 GMT -5
Plus, trading some players may help us lose some more games and get a slightly better draft pick and more allotted draft money. Granted it might not put us in the protected pick category (are there any free agents we're likely targeting that would get a QO?) but any better pick position helps. Weren't we 1 pick away from drafting Sonny Gray instead of Matt Barnes?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2014 6:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 24, 2014 9:00:30 GMT -5
Closers keep getting huge haul. Makes me wonder what we could get for Koji. TEX got two B- prospects for Soria, who has a $7mm team option for next year. SDO got a B- and two C+ prospects for Street, who has a $7mm team option for next year. We would not be getting much more for Uehara than TEX or SD received. Given that BOS likely wants quality over quantity, we're probably talking about one B prospect. Blake Swihart and Mookie Betts were rated B prospects at beginning of the year by Sickles. Edit: I still think to resign Uehara we will have to basically be the highest bidder in the offseason, so I am not opposed to trading him.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 24, 2014 9:36:15 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 24, 2014 9:41:41 GMT -5
I couldn't possibly imagine Seager for Lester... But what if you add Uehara to the mix? Miller is a hot commodity too, and Ross would also be an upgrade. I also get the feeling that Dodgers don't want to trade anymore of their top prospects.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 24, 2014 10:18:56 GMT -5
I also get the feeling that Dodgers don't want to trade anymore of their top prospects. Why? I feel like no team is more in win-now mode than the Dodgers. I think they'd prefer not to trade Pederson unless they have a shot at a frontline player, but that's pretty sensible.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2014 10:37:37 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ?@scottlauber 14m
Farrell: "I think there will be moves that will go on regardless of our record over the next 7 days." #RedSox
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 24, 2014 10:55:53 GMT -5
So in the Gammons piece, he pretty much literally says "three GMs told me that what I'm writing here is crazy and won't happen, but it's my website now so I'm going to write it anyway... Wheeeee!"
I wouldn't put any stock at all in that piece.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 24, 2014 11:30:43 GMT -5
I also get the feeling that Dodgers don't want to trade anymore of their top prospects. Why? I feel like no team is more in win-now mode than the Dodgers. I think they'd prefer not to trade Pederson unless they have a shot at a frontline player, but that's pretty sensible. There has just been article after article about how the Dodgers don't want to move Pederson, Urias, and Seager, most of them are related to the Price trade talks, why would they up the offer for Lester? I agree they are in win now mode, but by the same sense do you want to give up Pederson for half a season of one player?
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 24, 2014 11:32:33 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ?@scottlauber 14m Farrell: "I think there will be moves that will go on regardless of our record over the next 7 days." #RedSox Peavy, he means Peavy. If we are buyers we are trading Peavy, and if we are sellers we are trading Peavy. I really wonder if the Red Sox are that delusional that they think they can add a view pieces and make a playoff run who would they target?
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Jul 24, 2014 12:08:55 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ?@scottlauber 14m Farrell: "I think there will be moves that will go on regardless of our record over the next 7 days." #RedSox Peavy, he means Peavy. If we are buyers we are trading Peavy, and if we are sellers we are trading Peavy. I really wonder if the Red Sox are that delusional that they think they can add a view pieces and make a playoff run who would they target? This is what I fear most.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 24, 2014 12:20:13 GMT -5
Peavy, he means Peavy. If we are buyers we are trading Peavy, and if we are sellers we are trading Peavy. I really wonder if the Red Sox are that delusional that they think they can add a view pieces and make a playoff run who would they target? This is what I fear most. There is no rule that says you can't acquire a player who can help you beyond the next two months. I'm just using his name as an example. Mods don't have to delete. It's not a trade proposal. Carlos Gonzalez. Could help you this year and the next three.
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