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Rusney Castillo (source: will sign for $72.5mm thru 2020)
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Post by Guidas on Jul 16, 2014 9:55:29 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs Rusney Castillo, Cuban CF, considered potential impact player (brett gardner w/more power) has showcase 7/26 in miami area That's Heyman's description, not mine. Here's an excerpt from Baseball America's write-up on him: Since Castillo started training in the Dominican Republic, sources say he appears to have added about 20 pounds and is now around 5-foot-9, 205 pounds. Castillo is an excellent athlete, a plus-plus runner and was one of the better basestealers in Cuba, with a line-drive stroke from the right side and surprising power for his size. Some scouts see Castillo as an everyday center fielder, though others view him as a fourth outfielder. So Kirby Puckett build with plus speed and arm but we don't know if the bat will play vs. MLB pitching. I seem to recall a similar read on both Cespedes and Puig - not that this guy is them, nor am I implying that. Just that these scouts seem to categorize the Cubans in the C to B+ range, mostly because they don't have a lot of reads on how they fair vs. advanced pitching other than Intl tourneys. It should be noted that Castillo did kill it at the world cup a few years back, hitting nearly .500 with a lot of pop in that tourney. Highlight video here. Absolutely destroys a hanging cookie near the end. Seems to fit Cherrington's new plan of creating a sub 6 foot team of starting position players.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2014 11:34:22 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one.
B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 16, 2014 11:35:23 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one. B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute? Plenty of NFL running backs fit that description. Probably a pretty rare thing overall.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 16, 2014 11:42:08 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one. B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute? Problem is politics have played a part in it from the start. Chris? I think the mods are just going to have to decide when enough is enough on politics in each post in this thread, because monetary is the difference, as is social living standards in some of the Caribbean nations themselves, as well as a few other Latin countries and politics in those countries, as well as MLB playing them internally allowing them to exploit these kids are still being used to this day.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 16, 2014 12:36:39 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs Rusney Castillo, Cuban CF, considered potential impact player (brett gardner w/more power) has showcase 7/26 in miami area That's Heyman's description, not mine. Here's an excerpt from Baseball America's write-up on him: Since Castillo started training in the Dominican Republic, sources say he appears to have added about 20 pounds and is now around 5-foot-9, 205 pounds. Castillo is an excellent athlete, a plus-plus runner and was one of the better basestealers in Cuba, with a line-drive stroke from the right side and surprising power for his size. Some scouts see Castillo as an everyday center fielder, though others view him as a fourth outfielder. So Kirby Puckett build with plus speed and arm but we don't know if the bat will play vs. MLB pitching. I seem to recall a similar read on both Cespedes and Puig - not that this guy is them, nor am I implying that. Just that these scouts seem to categorize the Cubans in the C to B+ range, mostly because they don't have a lot of reads on how they fair vs. advanced pitching other than Intl tourneys. It should be noted that Castillo did kill it at the world cup a few years back, hitting nearly .500 with a lot of pop in that tourney. Highlight video here. Absolutely destroys a hanging cookie near the end. Seems to fit Cherrington's new plan of creating a sub 6 foot team of starting position players. We have an everyday center fielder. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by telson13 on Jul 16, 2014 13:13:39 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one. B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute? Barry Sanders. But, yeah, that's heavy for 5'9"...if it's muscle and mostly in his core/legs, 6.50-6.60 55m time is not unreasonable. I used to run with a guy in college who was high-10s in the 100m (10.90-11.05 by electronic timing, about 4.43-4.45 in the 40 yard, or 6.60-6.65 in the 55m) and 5'11", 225. Another guy on the team a few years later was 5'6", 175 and ran 6.34 in the 55m (more like 4.33-4.35 in the 40). As for the question posed about projecting 16 year-olds, I think it really depends on body type. If a guy is 6'1", 210 at age 16, and is leg-heavy and already filled out, he probably won't add much velocity, because most guys who get college coaching/lower minors professional coaching seem to gain velocity either by loosening and refining their delivery, or gaining core (there it is again) and leg strength and improving stability and drive. A guy who's wiry-framed, whether he's 6'3", 190 (the "ideal" young pitcher), or 5'10", 150 (like Pedro Martinez was) is more likely to gain lower body and midsection strength simply by "filling out" and training, and may bump up as much as 3-5 mph. In some rare cases, guys gain strength, flexibility, and repeatability along with often "untapped" sources of velocity/movement (such as wrist/finger strenght/snap, or shoulder stability, which is very dependent on regular exercise). A good example of a guy who hits 100 in the Sox system is Miguel Celestino, who when signed was more 92-94 topped out. Frank Montas, who they traded along with Iglesis for Peavy, was also hitting 93-94 in his teens and now *works* at 93-96, hitting 100 occasionally. I think with both Espinoza and Acosta, the Sox figure their body types have some projectability as far as velocity (both are fairly tall and wiry), and that's why they signed them for the money they did. Of course, Latin American players always come with the caveat of possible PED use and/or age questions, as well as the concern for injury since they're willing to risk future injury for a big, fat bonus check...and UCL tears are very, very well correlated with velocity. That's why we're seeing so many these days...guys are trying to light up radar guns earlier and earlier in their careers to get that first big contract, or that nice D1 scholarship.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 16, 2014 13:38:12 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one. B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute? Plenty of NFL running backs fit that description. Probably a pretty rare thing overall. Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith both immediately came to mind when I saw Chris's post. But yeah, not very common on the baseball field. EDIT: And it should be added: considering that the two guys I thought of are two of the best players in history, not common on the football field either.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 16, 2014 13:47:55 GMT -5
Emmitt Smith didn't have elite speed
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 16, 2014 13:51:47 GMT -5
Emmitt Smith didn't have elite speed Probably did for baseball. I don't know. Bo Jackson was 6'1" 235. That doesn't sound like a fast baseball player. Maurice Jones-Drew is 5'7" 210. Marshall Faulk was 5'10" 210
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Post by badfishnbc on Jul 16, 2014 14:34:18 GMT -5
A) If international draft talk is going to get political, let's put that in another thread so it doesn't derail this one. B) Am I the only one for whom "5'9", 205 pounds" and "plus-plus speed" does not compute? Plenty of NFL running backs fit that description. Probably a pretty rare thing overall. NY Giants' David Wilson is listed at that exact size, and ran a 4.49 40.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 16, 2014 14:44:07 GMT -5
Emmitt Smith didn't have elite speed If Castillo runs a 4.55 40 then he's a fast baseball player.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 16, 2014 16:25:15 GMT -5
He looks pretty quick in that video going to first, that's for sure.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 16, 2014 16:44:37 GMT -5
Emmitt Smith didn't have elite speed Probably did for baseball. I don't know. … Smith is said to have run 4.7 or 4.8 at the combines; some say he "never ran faster than a 4.5"
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Post by jdb on Jul 16, 2014 20:43:25 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs Rusney Castillo, Cuban CF, considered potential impact player (brett gardner w/more power) has showcase 7/26 in miami area That's Heyman's description, not mine. Here's an excerpt from Baseball America's write-up on him: Since Castillo started training in the Dominican Republic, sources say he appears to have added about 20 pounds and is now around 5-foot-9, 205 pounds. Castillo is an excellent athlete, a plus-plus runner and was one of the better basestealers in Cuba, with a line-drive stroke from the right side and surprising power for his size. Some scouts see Castillo as an everyday center fielder, though others view him as a fourth outfielder. So Kirby Puckett build with plus speed and arm but we don't know if the bat will play vs. MLB pitching. I seem to recall a similar read on both Cespedes and Puig - not that this guy is them, nor am I implying that. Just that these scouts seem to categorize the Cubans in the C to B+ range, mostly because they don't have a lot of reads on how they fair vs. advanced pitching other than Intl tourneys. It should be noted that Castillo did kill it at the world cup a few years back, hitting nearly .500 with a lot of pop in that tourney. Highlight video here. Absolutely destroys a hanging cookie near the end. Seems to fit Cherrington's new plan of creating a sub 6 foot team of starting position players. Stock piling potential CFers is never a bad thing. If the FO thinks he's legit you go after him and use the others as trade chips. I think somebody with more of a CF need gets him.
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 17, 2014 0:17:34 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs Rusney Castillo, Cuban CF, considered potential impact player (brett gardner w/more power) has showcase 7/26 in miami area That's Heyman's description, not mine. Here's an excerpt from Baseball America's write-up on him: Since Castillo started training in the Dominican Republic, sources say he appears to have added about 20 pounds and is now around 5-foot-9, 205 pounds. Castillo is an excellent athlete, a plus-plus runner and was one of the better basestealers in Cuba, with a line-drive stroke from the right side and surprising power for his size. Some scouts see Castillo as an everyday center fielder, though others view him as a fourth outfielder. So Kirby Puckett build with plus speed and arm but we don't know if the bat will play vs. MLB pitching. I seem to recall a similar read on both Cespedes and Puig - not that this guy is them, nor am I implying that. Just that these scouts seem to categorize the Cubans in the C to B+ range, mostly because they don't have a lot of reads on how they fair vs. advanced pitching other than Intl tourneys. It should be noted that Castillo did kill it at the world cup a few years back, hitting nearly .500 with a lot of pop in that tourney. Highlight video here. Absolutely destroys a hanging cookie near the end. Seems to fit Cherrington's new plan of creating a sub 6 foot team of starting position players. Stock piling potential CFers is never a bad thing. If the FO thinks he's legit you go after him and use the others as trade chips. I think somebody with more of a CF need gets him. With rightfield in Fenway we have two centerfields so that makes us needy.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 19, 2014 9:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 20, 2014 10:41:03 GMT -5
As I read the blip, it indicated that the Red Sox were among those teams interested.....
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Post by soxcentral on Jul 20, 2014 10:57:49 GMT -5
Right, I see the Sox as the 5th team there too.
Comparisons to Brett Gardner, Jacoby Ellsbury and Kenny Lofton...hits right handed with speed and some power. Seems like an excellent addition to our OF mix, at least as Victorino insurance for 2015.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 20, 2014 11:15:18 GMT -5
As I read the blip, it indicated that the Red Sox were among those teams interested..... Yup, I definitely missed that!
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 20, 2014 11:16:18 GMT -5
The way the Cuban propsects have worked out recently, I'd like to see the Red Sox snag one. We have a lot of payroll flexibility with nearly $75 million coming off the books next year and if we can move Peavy would should be able to have plenty of cushion to avoid going over the luxury tax line this season.
I hope we go for it. Especially since the kid plays a position of such need for us.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 20, 2014 16:25:16 GMT -5
I thought the Sox held the option on Peavy for 2015.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 20, 2014 16:28:55 GMT -5
I thought the Sox held the option on Peavy for 2015. We do. Unless he hits 400 innings in 13&14. That won't happen.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 24, 2014 15:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 25, 2014 13:15:15 GMT -5
Jesse SanchezVerified account ?@jessesanchezmlb Source: Cuban prospect Rusney Castillo to work out at SS & CF in Saturday's showcase. atmlb.com/1tjryOh video: atmlb.com/1u7JcsxShortstop is new
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Post by Guidas on Jul 25, 2014 14:06:06 GMT -5
Geez, I'd love to see this showcase. Anyone going? I'll drive.
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