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Post by Guidas on Jul 28, 2014 13:29:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 17:46:29 GMT -5
Sign him, is just money.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 30, 2014 11:56:19 GMT -5
Well there are the international tourney's he's played in, all of which are heavily scouted. He's 27 so he's been to enough of those where there's at least some reports and data on how he fared vs. whom. Also, Cuba still plays in the All Caribbean series every year, right? Not sure if he played in that, but it's heavily scouted as well. So there actually may be a decent body of work to evaluate. Point of information: Cuba only rejoined the Caribbean Series a year or two ago. And even then, it's the Serie Nacional champ, not the national team, I think, that plays.
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Post by jdb on Jul 30, 2014 17:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 17:32:47 GMT -5
I think we'll be in on this guy.
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Post by nomar on Aug 1, 2014 3:09:21 GMT -5
Makes more sense to wait and go after Tomas IMO
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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 1, 2014 4:31:07 GMT -5
I actually think the Sox are more likely to sign him then they were yesterday. Remember if they do go after Stanton the Marlins are now without a long term option in CF since Marsnick was supposed to end up being that guy and Ozuna is okay but was never supposed to be the long term centerfielder. If the Sox do sign him then it also says a lot about the long term plans with Craig regardless of the Marlins and Stanton. Craig profiles better as a 1B/DH than he does in LF. If Craig has a strong two months he could become a pretty big trade chip in the offseason.
Castillo? Tomas? Sign them both!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 1, 2014 6:19:49 GMT -5
I actually think the Sox are more likely to sign him then they were yesterday. Remember if they do go after Stanton the Marlins are now without a long term option in CF since Marsnick was supposed to end up being that guy and Ozuna is okay but was never supposed to be the long term centerfielder. If the Sox do sign him then it also says a lot about the long term plans with Craig regardless of the Marlins and Stanton. Craig profiles better as a 1B/DH than he does in LF. If Craig has a strong two months he could become a pretty big trade chip in the offseason. Castillo? Tomas? Sign them both! Great trade chip or frees up someone else to be. Answer....yes. If he is a player, a real player, SIGN HIM!
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 1, 2014 6:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 1, 2014 6:42:11 GMT -5
I didn't see Castillo as a great fit before yesterday and even less so now.
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Post by bsout2 on Aug 1, 2014 7:57:51 GMT -5
I think the Red Sox sign him and he starts CF next year. I'm not trying to argue this point, just how I believe everything will shake out.
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Post by juniorp90 on Aug 1, 2014 8:11:32 GMT -5
I think the Red Sox sign him and he starts CF next year. I'm not trying to argue this point, just how I believe everything will shake out. And Bradley Jr? His defense is Gold Glove, we can not ignore that. I see Bradley's first red sox bat next, exploding offensively year, I do not see a possible signature of Castillo...
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 1, 2014 8:19:45 GMT -5
You don't sign an unknown commodity to a long-term contract with the express intent of trading him. That's crazy. If you absolutely love him you could sign him with the intention of trading some of your other outfielders, but I don't think it's smart to put yourself in a position where you HAVE to trade guys that you like just because you don't have room for them.
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Post by bsout2 on Aug 1, 2014 8:29:21 GMT -5
I think the Red Sox sign him and he starts CF next year. I'm not trying to argue this point, just how I believe everything will shake out. And Bradley Jr? His defense is Gold Glove, we can not ignore that. I see Bradley's first red sox bat next, exploding offensively year, I do not see a possible signature of Castillo... I could see Bradley as the 4th OF next year. Only because I believe Ben is so upset about how this year turned out, he is going to over load on offensive potential and let it all play out.
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Post by jmei on Aug 1, 2014 8:48:26 GMT -5
One potentially interesting thing about Castillo: even if he signs a major league contract, I believe he should still have options left. He could start the season in AAA and be that rare starting-caliber depth that you could stash in the minors until the inevitable injury.
Of course, if you're paying him $30m+, you probably want him in the majors. But the Dodgers (Alex Guerrero and Erisbel Arruebarruena) have put their big-money Cubans in the minors, and it's nice to at least have the option of demoting him if he doesn't sparkle in Spring Training.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 1, 2014 8:49:05 GMT -5
Anyone going to the workout? Would love to see this, not just to see how he does but what they emphasize in the workout.
The system is weak in OFs. If they sign him they can sell him on "getting him ready" in AAA til Sept and then get a good look at him in Boston vs. MLB pitching. Again, if other teams are lusting just adds to the trade bait in the O.S. whether it's him, Cespedes, Nava, Bradley, esp if they are willing to pick up some money to sweeten the deal to a cheap billionaire owner mid-market team.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 1, 2014 8:56:32 GMT -5
Anyone going to the workout? Would love to see this, not just to see how he does but what they emphasize in the workout. The system is weak in OFs. If they sign him they can sell him on "getting him ready" in AAA til Sept and then get a good look at him in Boston vs. MLB pitching. Again, if other teams are lusting just adds to the trade bait in the O.S. whether it's him, Cespedes, Nava, Bradley, esp if they are willing to pick up some money to sweeten the deal to a cheap billionaire owner mid-market team. This workout is likely to be closed off to the public. It will be either in Jetblue Park, the fenway dimension back field or the practice field behind it with no access.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 1, 2014 9:36:51 GMT -5
Anyone going to the workout? Would love to see this, not just to see how he does but what they emphasize in the workout. The system is weak in OFs. If they sign him they can sell him on "getting him ready" in AAA til Sept and then get a good look at him in Boston vs. MLB pitching. Again, if other teams are lusting just adds to the trade bait in the O.S. whether it's him, Cespedes, Nava, Bradley, esp if they are willing to pick up some money to sweeten the deal to a cheap billionaire owner mid-market team. This workout is likely to be closed off to the public. It will be either in Jetblue Park, the fenway dimension back field or the practice field behind it with no access. Oh, I'm sure it is. Not not sure if anyone posting here has access - and I believe even if it was closed, if it was down in Jet Blue there'd be places you can position yourself to get a decent view.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 1, 2014 9:39:08 GMT -5
This workout is likely to be closed off to the public. It will be either in Jetblue Park, the fenway dimension back field or the practice field behind it with no access. Oh, I'm sure it is. Not not sure if anyone posting here has access - and I believe even if it was closed, if it was down in Jet Blue there'd be places you can position yourself to get a decent view. If its in the park then you would not be able to get in. I am sure of that. The other 2 fields you really won't be able to see either as they will have security restricting the area.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2014 9:42:45 GMT -5
I'll be flying a drone over the field and post the video feed. Either that, or I'll be getting satellite images. Don't worry.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 1, 2014 10:19:17 GMT -5
Update from Badler on scouts' revised take on Castillo: www.baseballamerica.com/international/scouts-update-reports-rusney-castillo/The comp seems to be trending toward Rajai Davis with more pop. Excerpt: Scouts who have followed Castillo since he was in Cuba say they’re confident he can play a quality center field, with good reactions and the speed to cover plenty of ground...If Castillo can give teams comparable production to Davis at the same age with a little extra pop, he might not be a star like Yoenis Cespedes or Jose Abreu, but that’s a very solid everyday player, with no draft picks or prospects to surrender to acquire him.Badler adds that he has 70 speed. Also, Davis was a 3.3 WAR player in Oak during his age equivalent season. If you add a bit of pop to that and take away the cavernous foul territory of Oakland for 81 games, you start to see that, best case, this guy could be a solid MLB player or a little better for a few years
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Post by jmei on Aug 1, 2014 10:29:17 GMT -5
Let's take that scouting evaluation at face value. How much would you be willing to pay for that kind of player?
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2014 10:31:46 GMT -5
Maybe 5/30, which probably doesn't get it done.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 1, 2014 10:57:03 GMT -5
Let's take that scouting evaluation at face value. How much would you be willing to pay for that kind of player? I believe the Yankees just gave this kind of player $154M last off season. Sucks being them. If are predicated on moving Bradley in a trade or think he really is a 4th OF then 4 years for $70M total given what good CFs go for these days. I don't think that arm plays in RF. If they are sticking with Bradley I'd pass unless they know a cheap owner team who covets him and Sox know they can package him and part of the salary (plus possibly prospects) for someone on cheap owner team they can no longer afford or want to move and the Sox covet such as a #2 starter or better or a power bat.
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Post by jmei on Aug 1, 2014 12:35:11 GMT -5
If are predicated on moving Bradley in a trade or think he really is a 4th OF then 4 years for $70M total given what good CFs go for these days. I don't think that arm plays in RF. That's really aggressive-- a good bit more than what B.J. Upton got, for instance, a guy with a similar skill set. Castillo is only one year younger than Upton was when he reached free agency, and Upton probably had both a higher floor (or he was perceived to, at least-- he was coming off three consecutive 3+ win seasons) and a higher ceiling (having nearly reached five wins a couple times). I might be willing to go up to 4/$40m, (maybe $48m?) if I really thought the hit tool was going to play up. But $18m a year is really aggressive for a guy who some scouts don't think is a starter. You can probably get Colby Rasmus for cheaper than that, for instance.
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