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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 26, 2015 12:43:29 GMT -5
And now we know what is up with Brady Aiken. He's attending IMG's post grad program, where Jacob Nix is also attending.
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Post by alnipper on Feb 26, 2015 17:05:08 GMT -5
There is a decent chance we'll draft a lefty with our 1st rounder. I believe in B.P.A. though.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 26, 2015 20:38:17 GMT -5
Kiley McDaniel @kileymcd SoCal prep LHP & possible high 1st rounder Kolby Allard is pitching now, sitting 92-93 early. 90-93 much of the summer, then hit 96 in Aug.
Kiley McDaniel @kileymcd Typical early season type notes on Allard's start today: 3 IP, 91-93, no changeups, varying feel for breaking ball, 8 Ks, looked easy.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 27, 2015 14:53:33 GMT -5
Nathan Kirby today vs. Hartford: 6IP 5H 0 ER 4 BB 10 K
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Post by moonstone2 on Feb 27, 2015 15:46:30 GMT -5
Okay so let's get started talking about some guys who are possible picks at #7.
I will start.
Kyle Funkhouser -
Pros - Can already throw three pitches consistently for strikes. Big durable body.
Cons - Doesn't have huge stuff today as he throws in the low 90s, but he does have some projection left. Law believes that if you tighten up his delivery he'll have sharper stuff.
Kolby Allard-
Pros- Already shows easy strong stuff. Very athletic, and projectable which is something the Sox love. Best high school pitcher by far.
Cons - He's short and he's a high school pitcher. Allard has a lot more experience than Trey Ball does though.
#7 is a tough pick because in most drafts all of the guys you love are gone. You can't really chase ceiling too hard because there will still be a lot of guys on the board who will be sitting in Portland in 16 months if the Sox take them.
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Post by ramireja on Feb 27, 2015 16:38:56 GMT -5
Its pretty early to even make a comment like this (but I will): Kirby looks like he's pulling ahead of Matuella and Buehler who are raising some health concerns. Picking 7th creates an odd dilemma in which I want my favorite picks to do well, because I want them to justify my enthusiasm....but I don't want them to do so well that they become a lock for the top 5 (or I guess 6) in the draft.
Like I said, its very early, but I'm starting to get the feeling that picking 7th is going to be picking at the front of the second tier, whereas it would be nice to picking from the end of the first tier.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 27, 2015 18:23:17 GMT -5
@fpilierepg: Another start, more dominant stuff from Dillon Tate. 94-97 mph FB, typical plus SL and showing the change. Reportedly 70+ scouts there
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Post by iakovos11 on Feb 27, 2015 19:57:54 GMT -5
I'd love Tate, but the way he's pitching, I don't think he'll be there at 7.
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Post by juniorp90 on Feb 27, 2015 22:15:35 GMT -5
Carson Fulmer, previously selected by Boston. Performance today: 6IP, 2H, 0R, 0ER, 3BB, 11SO
He will be available in the pick 7
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 28, 2015 12:17:49 GMT -5
Another solid college pitcher:
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 28, 2015 14:18:00 GMT -5
Kyle Funkhouser vs. Xavier: 7 IP 7 H 0 ER 2 BB 7 K
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 28, 2015 16:19:18 GMT -5
Bringing home the funk @redsoxstats: Hear there is a multiple person Boston contingent in freezing Louisville scouting Kyle Funkhouser right now.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 3, 2015 17:36:34 GMT -5
Walker Buehler made his first start of the season today against Evansville: 2 IP 0 H 0 ER 2 BB 2 K
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Post by soxfan2015 on Mar 3, 2015 18:54:34 GMT -5
Knowing it's early and all, wondering peoples early favorites they'd want to see at the number #7 pick for the sox and why?
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Post by moonstone2 on Mar 3, 2015 19:09:28 GMT -5
Knowing it's early and all, wondering peoples early favorites they'd want to see at the number #7 pick for the sox and why? My guess is Funkhauser. He's as close as you can get to a sure thing for a college pitcher. College pitching is the strength of the draft. The prep arms other than Allard look to raw for 7. Same with the prep bats. There doesn't seem to be a college hitter making a case.
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Post by soxfan2015 on Mar 3, 2015 19:15:36 GMT -5
Mantuella is fascinating to me. Not sure if he will be too much of a risk for the sox with his health, but boy that's an arm to dream on.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Mar 3, 2015 20:11:03 GMT -5
It's early... Some guys have barely gotten going right now... But this is a baseball forum so that won't stop us. I'd agree with basically everyone that a College pitcher is probably the most likely. Injuries could have a say by draft day so it's not any sort of lock.
It does feel it lines up well given that's the strength of the draft and it's also an area the Red Sox could be looking at.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 3, 2015 20:23:12 GMT -5
Basically everything pedroelgrande said. There are a bunch of college pitchers to keep an eye on including Nathan Kirby, Michael Matuella, Dillon Tate, Kyle Funkhouser, Walker Buehler. It certainly seems like things are very unsettled in terms of what order they will be drafted in...that's what the next three months are for.
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Post by charliezink16 on Mar 3, 2015 22:03:18 GMT -5
Mantuella is fascinating to me. Not sure if he will be too much of a risk for the sox with his health, but boy that's an arm to dream on. Matuella is my pick too. Didn't seem like he'd be even close to #7, but recent injury concerns may drop him. KC gambled on Sean Manaea w/ his injury issues and it seemed to work out. Washington got an absolute steal at #16 with Lucas Giolito after he went down w/ TJ surgery. Toronto gamble the #9 pick on Jeff Hoffman after his TJ surgery, results pending. Admittedly I know little about this draft class beyond what I've seen here, but I love the idea of taking an injury risk like Matuella with ace upside.
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Post by moonstone2 on Mar 3, 2015 23:00:05 GMT -5
Mantuella is fascinating to me. Not sure if he will be too much of a risk for the sox with his health, but boy that's an arm to dream on. Matuella is my pick too. Didn't seem like he'd be even close to #7, but recent injury concerns may drop him. KC gambled on Sean Manaea w/ his injury issues and it seemed to work out. Washington got an absolute steal at #16 with Lucas Giolito after he went down w/ TJ surgery. Toronto gamble the #9 pick on Jeff Hoffman after his TJ surgery, results pending. Admittedly I know little about this draft class beyond what I've seen here, but I love the idea of taking an injury risk like Matuella with ace upside. It sounds to me like Matuella's injury isn't serious and won't affect his draft status. If that's the case he won't be there at 7.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 3, 2015 23:49:51 GMT -5
Matuella is my pick too. Didn't seem like he'd be even close to #7, but recent injury concerns may drop him. KC gambled on Sean Manaea w/ his injury issues and it seemed to work out. Washington got an absolute steal at #16 with Lucas Giolito after he went down w/ TJ surgery. Toronto gamble the #9 pick on Jeff Hoffman after his TJ surgery, results pending. Admittedly I know little about this draft class beyond what I've seen here, but I love the idea of taking an injury risk like Matuella with ace upside. It sounds to me like Matuella's injury isn't serious and won't affect his draft status. If that's the case he won't be there at 7. While Matuella's injury may or may not be serious, it is certainly unique. Unlike Giolito or Hoffman, Matuella deals with a rare spinal/back condition called spondylolysis. Everything that has been reported says that this is a manageable condition, but do you take a risk with drafting him given the unknown? BA had an update in the fall about Matuella's condition: www.baseballamerica.com/college/michael-matuella-update/Either way, let's see how he pitches over the next couple of months.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 3, 2015 23:52:45 GMT -5
Kiley McDaniel ?@kileymcd I'm told the pop up arm from February's MLB Compton event, 2015 SoCal prep righty Jonas Wyatt, touched 96 mph today
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Post by pedroelgrande on Mar 4, 2015 0:23:52 GMT -5
My thing with Matuella is that if he is ok and pitches the rest of the season to his potential in all likelihood he's a top 3 pick.
But if he misses more time then yes he might be there at 7 but then you have a guy who pitched 55 and 58 innings in both his freshman and sophmore seasons, missed last summer with the back injury and wasn't that big a prospect out of HS. The track record would be very limited. Yes he might have the tools to be the best pitcher in the draft but he really hasn't shown it for long stretches. Is his upside so good to pass up on Buehler, Funkhouser, Allard, Kirby, Fulmer, Bickford etc. whomever of those guys is there at 7 with his injury risk and track record? It's hard for me to say right now.
This might be a moot point as he has the opportunity to go out there and pitch great for the rest of the season. But he does have kind of an unusual track record from recent elite college pitchers.
Edit: added more specificity to he collegiate track record so far.
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Post by moonstone2 on Mar 4, 2015 6:58:17 GMT -5
Just because a condition is uncommon doesn't make the player risky. If it's a "common and manageable" condition as has been reported then drafting him isn't a risk. I would imagine that Houston might pass on Matuella due to last year's fiasco but unless something else happens, he's a top five pick.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 4, 2015 7:13:10 GMT -5
Just because a condition is uncommon doesn't make the player risky. If it's a "common and manageable" condition as has been reported then drafting him isn't a risk. I would imagine that Houston might pass on Matuella due to last year's fiasco but unless something else happens, he's a top five pick. Minus Houston, Boston picks fifth. You could also make the same general statement about Aiken.
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