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2015 Draft Discussion
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 26, 2015 18:42:19 GMT -5
After watching those Kyle Tucker videos, I may have changed my mind. Quite impressive. I would be ecstatic with us going young with Tucker or Allard, if Fulmer is not available. I know the Sox seem to be really interested in Bregman, but I'm getting less and less on his band-wagon. Eh, be careful basing your opinion only on videos. Based purely on highlight videos, you'd think that those guys from the And1 Mixtape Tour would've taken over the NBA by now, for example. You're not going to find the video of "Kyle Tucker fooled badly by a mediocre breaking ball" or "Justin Hooper can't find the plate for an inning" or anything like that. For sure Chris. What is your take on Tucker. I started reading more about him also after watching 3 videos. The scouting reports are quite positive.
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Post by nomar on May 26, 2015 18:59:33 GMT -5
After watching those Kyle Tucker videos, I may have changed my mind. Quite impressive. I would be ecstatic with us going young with Tucker or Allard, if Fulmer is not available. I know the Sox seem to be really interested in Bregman, but I'm getting less and less on his band-wagon. Eh, be careful basing your opinion only on videos. Based purely on highlight videos, you'd think that those guys from the And1 Mixtape Tour would've taken over the NBA by now, for example. You're not going to find the video of "Kyle Tucker fooled badly by a mediocre breaking ball" or "Justin Hooper can't find the plate for an inning" or anything like that. At the same rate, Tucker is a legitimate top 10 pick. Houston has been on him a decent amount. But your point stands, of course.
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Post by jdb on May 26, 2015 19:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2015 19:15:58 GMT -5
Eh, be careful basing your opinion only on videos. Based purely on highlight videos, you'd think that those guys from the And1 Mixtape Tour would've taken over the NBA by now, for example. You're not going to find the video of "Kyle Tucker fooled badly by a mediocre breaking ball" or "Justin Hooper can't find the plate for an inning" or anything like that. For sure Chris. What is your take on Tucker. I started reading more about him also after watching 3 videos. The scouting reports are quite positive. My take on Tucker and every other player in the draft is that I've never seen them play in person and I don't know anything, so I'll leave it to the experts. Not being a wiseass, but I just am never going to have access to remotely the same data that the various scouting departments and even some of the more heavily involved baseball media guys like McDaniel and Law do, so I'm not going to bother trying to form some terribly uninformed opinion.
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Post by alex710707 on May 26, 2015 19:40:39 GMT -5
If Hooper had been consistent this spring he wouldnt be available at 7. The fact is, every prospect in this draft has major warts, be it injury concern, inconsistency, or lack of ceiling. He's also said to be looking for a very large signing bonus....can't find a link but I believe the BA crew talked about it on one of their recent podcasts. He is looking for about $4mil, I believe. Could be a smokescreen, but if I'm the Sox I'm not taking someone so raw at #7, especially when I won't be saving any money (and could in fact have to go overslot to sign him). And I disagree, I think if Hooper dominated then he still might be available in our range. There are other HS pitchers that have pitched well, too...it's just the nature of HS pitching being volatile that makes these guys risky. I would pick the guy (Justin Hooper) that I like most,even every one thinks hooper is late 1st round guy. He is a high risk guy, but he's also got David Price potential. Mid-90 FB with that kind of movement is insane. His control is big problem, but his mechanic is not. His mechanic is not consistent enough, need a little fix, but he is throwing smoothly. Besdies, he is 6-7.... Totally crazy... I don't like Dillon Tate and Carson Fulmer. These two "college" guy "throw" like a reliever, I really don't think they can pitch as a starter for more than 150 IP every year.
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Post by quintanariffic on May 26, 2015 19:40:47 GMT -5
For sure Chris. What is your take on Tucker. I started reading more about him also after watching 3 videos. The scouting reports are quite positive. My take on Tucker and every other player in the draft is that I've never seen them play in person and I don't know anything, so I'll leave it to the experts. Not being a wiseass, but I just am never going to have access to remotely the same data that the various scouting departments and even some of the more heavily involved baseball media guys like McDaniel and Law do, so I'm not going to bother trying to form some terribly uninformed opinion. That's downright contrarian on this board when it comes to scouting/rating the draft. How dare you!
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Post by telson13 on May 26, 2015 21:02:01 GMT -5
He's also said to be looking for a very large signing bonus....can't find a link but I believe the BA crew talked about it on one of their recent podcasts. He is looking for about $4mil, I believe. Could be a smokescreen, but if I'm the Sox I'm not taking someone so raw at #7, especially when I won't be saving any money (and could in fact have to go overslot to sign him). And I disagree, I think if Hooper dominated then he still might be available in our range. There are other HS pitchers that have pitched well, too...it's just the nature of HS pitching being volatile that makes these guys risky. I would pick the guy (Justin Hooper) that I like most,even every one thinks hooper is late 1st round guy. He is a high risk guy, but he's also got David Price potential. Mid-90 FB with that kind of movement is insane. His control is big problem, but his mechanic is not. His mechanic is not consistent enough, need a little fix, but he is throwing smoothly. Besdies, he is 6-7.... Totally crazy... I don't like Dillon Tate and Carson Fulmer. These two "college" guy "throw" like a reliever, I really don't think they can pitch as a starter for more than 150 IP every year. I'm not sure I understand this. Hooper is the epitome of a "thrower." I'm not sold on his mechanics, although he's not like Fulmer, who clearly has Chris Sale-level funkiness. Hooper's curve doesn't look like much more than a show-me pitch at this stage, at least from the video I've seen. And his control of it is terrible. He may hit 96, but Pat Light hit 98 in college, so that means very little. Hooper's FB command is also unimpressive. He'd be a huge project. Fulmer has command issues, but he's most certainly not a "thrower." He has, and mixes fairly well, three above-average to plus or even plus-plus pitches. I'm not sold on him as a ML starter, but he's been *remarkably* healthy and holds his velocity late into games. Tate also isn't really just a thrower. He's got a plus-plus fastball that he spots well, and an average or better slider. He needs another average or better offspeed pitch, but at least the makings of one are there. Sure, he's worn down a little over the course of the season, but he's been a full time reliever, and most teams advocate increasing a pitcher's innings no more than 20-25% per year for that (and injury risk) reasons, so I'm not surprised, nor am I convinced he won't be able to handle a greater workload. Compare Tyler Jay to Hooper: Jay throws as hard, within a mph or so, but has excellent command of two additional plus pitches. You can dream on Hooper * becoming* Jay...but there's no guarantee or even that good of a chance he gets there. Envisioning him as the next Randy Johnson or David Price even is a stretch. Frankly, Price is successful not because of his FB velocity, but his excellent change and supreme command. And he's not necessarily even the best lefty in the AL, and certainly not in baseball. Hooper is **nowhere** near Price's level of command/control. I think you're making a huge leap there with that comparison.
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Post by mjammz on May 26, 2015 22:18:53 GMT -5
I would pick the guy (Justin Hooper) that I like most,even every one thinks hooper is late 1st round guy. He is a high risk guy, but he's also got David Price potential. Mid-90 FB with that kind of movement is insane. His control is big problem, but his mechanic is not. His mechanic is not consistent enough, need a little fix, but he is throwing smoothly. Besdies, he is 6-7.... Totally crazy... I don't like Dillon Tate and Carson Fulmer. These two "college" guy "throw" like a reliever, I really don't think they can pitch as a starter for more than 150 IP every year. I'm not sure I understand this. Hooper is the epitome of a "thrower." I'm not sold on his mechanics, although he's not like Fulmer, who clearly has Chris Sale-level funkiness. Hooper's curve doesn't look like much more than a show-me pitch at this stage, at least from the video I've seen. And his control of it is terrible. He may hit 96, but Pat Light hit 98 in college, so that means very little. Hooper's FB command is also unimpressive. He'd be a huge project. Fulmer has command issues, but he's most certainly not a "thrower." He has, and mixes fairly well, three above-average to plus or even plus-plus pitches. I'm not sold on him as a ML starter, but he's been *remarkably* healthy and holds his velocity late into games. Tate also isn't really just a thrower. He's got a plus-plus fastball that he spots well, and an average or better slider. He needs another average or better offspeed pitch, but at least the makings of one are there. Sure, he's worn down a little over the course of the season, but he's been a full time reliever, and most teams advocate increasing a pitcher's innings no more than 20-25% per year for that (and injury risk) reasons, so I'm not surprised, nor am I convinced he won't be able to handle a greater workload. Compare Tyler Jay to Hooper: Jay throws as hard, within a mph or so, but has excellent command of two additional plus pitches. You can dream on Hooper * becoming* Jay...but there's no guarantee or even that good of a chance he gets there. Envisioning him as the next Randy Johnson or David Price even is a stretch. Frankly, Price is successful not because of his FB velocity, but his excellent change and supreme command. And he's not necessarily even the best lefty in the AL, and certainly not in baseball. Hooper is **nowhere** near Price's level of command/control. I think you're making a huge leap there with that comparison. Kiley said today he's still asking for 4 million and it's likely he goes to UCLA. Hooper's command is terrible. Do you really want to pick another HS pitcher in the top 10 with major flaws. I don't care how fast he throws if the can't pitch and command their pitches, I don't want them.
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Post by telson13 on May 26, 2015 22:41:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand this. Hooper is the epitome of a "thrower." I'm not sold on his mechanics, although he's not like Fulmer, who clearly has Chris Sale-level funkiness. Hooper's curve doesn't look like much more than a show-me pitch at this stage, at least from the video I've seen. And his control of it is terrible. He may hit 96, but Pat Light hit 98 in college, so that means very little. Hooper's FB command is also unimpressive. He'd be a huge project. Fulmer has command issues, but he's most certainly not a "thrower." He has, and mixes fairly well, three above-average to plus or even plus-plus pitches. I'm not sold on him as a ML starter, but he's been *remarkably* healthy and holds his velocity late into games. Tate also isn't really just a thrower. He's got a plus-plus fastball that he spots well, and an average or better slider. He needs another average or better offspeed pitch, but at least the makings of one are there. Sure, he's worn down a little over the course of the season, but he's been a full time reliever, and most teams advocate increasing a pitcher's innings no more than 20-25% per year for that (and injury risk) reasons, so I'm not surprised, nor am I convinced he won't be able to handle a greater workload. Compare Tyler Jay to Hooper: Jay throws as hard, within a mph or so, but has excellent command of two additional plus pitches. You can dream on Hooper * becoming* Jay...but there's no guarantee or even that good of a chance he gets there. Envisioning him as the next Randy Johnson or David Price even is a stretch. Frankly, Price is successful not because of his FB velocity, but his excellent change and supreme command. And he's not necessarily even the best lefty in the AL, and certainly not in baseball. Hooper is **nowhere** near Price's level of command/control. I think you're making a huge leap there with that comparison. Kiley said today he's still asking for 4 million and it's likely he goes to UCLA. Hooper's command is terrible. Do you really want to pick another HS pitcher in the top 10 with major flaws. I don't care how fast he throws if the can't pitch and command their pitches, I don't want them. Saw the McDaniel tweet. Yeah, nobody is going to give a raw kid with present 30-grade command and arguably 40-grade control $4M. Who knows, maybe he goes to UCLA and does his best Randy Johnson impression (who, notably, was a second-rounder from USC who had poor control when drafted too). But yeah, Hooper to me is a mildly interesting, very raw arm from the left who would be a nightmare at 7 but a nice pickup if the Sox had a second-round pick and he were willing to sign. Nowhere near a top-10 to me. Might crack my top-25 or -30. Really starting to hope Jay makes it to 7, or that they snap up Benintendi over Bregman if Jay, Fulmer, and Tate are gone.
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Post by alex710707 on May 27, 2015 2:07:16 GMT -5
I would pick the guy (Justin Hooper) that I like most,even every one thinks hooper is late 1st round guy. He is a high risk guy, but he's also got David Price potential. Mid-90 FB with that kind of movement is insane. His control is big problem, but his mechanic is not. His mechanic is not consistent enough, need a little fix, but he is throwing smoothly. Besdies, he is 6-7.... Totally crazy... I don't like Dillon Tate and Carson Fulmer. These two "college" guy "throw" like a reliever, I really don't think they can pitch as a starter for more than 150 IP every year. I'm not sure I understand this. Hooper is the epitome of a "thrower." I'm not sold on his mechanics, although he's not like Fulmer, who clearly has Chris Sale-level funkiness. Hooper's curve doesn't look like much more than a show-me pitch at this stage, at least from the video I've seen. And his control of it is terrible. He may hit 96, but Pat Light hit 98 in college, so that means very little. Hooper's FB command is also unimpressive. He'd be a huge project. Fulmer has command issues, but he's most certainly not a "thrower." He has, and mixes fairly well, three above-average to plus or even plus-plus pitches. I'm not sold on him as a ML starter, but he's been *remarkably* healthy and holds his velocity late into games. Tate also isn't really just a thrower. He's got a plus-plus fastball that he spots well, and an average or better slider. He needs another average or better offspeed pitch, but at least the makings of one are there. Sure, he's worn down a little over the course of the season, but he's been a full time reliever, and most teams advocate increasing a pitcher's innings no more than 20-25% per year for that (and injury risk) reasons, so I'm not surprised, nor am I convinced he won't be able to handle a greater workload. Compare Tyler Jay to Hooper: Jay throws as hard, within a mph or so, but has excellent command of two additional plus pitches. You can dream on Hooper * becoming* Jay...but there's no guarantee or even that good of a chance he gets there. Envisioning him as the next Randy Johnson or David Price even is a stretch. Frankly, Price is successful not because of his FB velocity, but his excellent change and supreme command. And he's not necessarily even the best lefty in the AL, and certainly not in baseball. Hooper is **nowhere** near Price's level of command/control. I think you're making a huge leap there with that comparison. Almost all the HS pitcher have control and mechanic problem. Although Hooper has big control problem, but his mechanic is smooth. This is also the reason that I would take the risk on him besides his FB, 6-7 height, good althelicism and David Price upside. Carson Fulmer and Tate has good mix of breaking ball and FB. However, I don't like their mechanic. They throw like a CL. That's reason why I doubt they can be starter. Also, Hooper is raw because he is 3 years younger which also means that Hooper has more space for improvement. PS: Pardon for my lousy English, I am a big Sox fan from Taiwan~~.
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 27, 2015 8:29:21 GMT -5
My take on Tucker and every other player in the draft is that I've never seen them play in person and I don't know anything, so I'll leave it to the experts. Not being a wiseass, but I just am never going to have access to remotely the same data that the various scouting departments and even some of the more heavily involved baseball media guys like McDaniel and Law do, so I'm not going to bother trying to form some terribly uninformed opinion. That's downright contrarian on this board when it comes to scouting/rating the draft. How dare you! It's also the truth tho. Most of us don't have that luxury of being able to watch games live & in person, so are forced to watch them via video now tho and form opinions of them that way however instead and it isn't the same, as you know. Release points change, breaks are different. I have to get readjusted (example) when GCL season starts from attending live Tiger games here and watching all these Sox games.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 27, 2015 9:43:43 GMT -5
My top ten: 1. Dillon Tate 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Brendan Rogers 4. Alex Bregman 5. Andrew Benintendi 6. Kolby Allard 7. Kyle Tucker 8. Dansby Swanson 9. Brady Aiken 10. Ian Happ A couple notes: I really want a pitcher in this draft, but I'm just not that comfortable with any name other Tate or Fulmer....Allard would be next on my list. Despite my affinity for a pitcher, I see a number of bats having higher floors in this draft and that is reflected in my list. Also, I know Swanson is unlikely to drop to us, but even if he did I have 7 players ahead of him. Not sure why but I just can't get excited about about his profile. Its probably because he seems like Deven Marrero with a full grade higher of a hit tool. I understand thats a very valuable major leaguer but just isn't as appealing to me for some irrational reason. I've been saying very similar things about him the last 2 months. I agree a very valuable MLB player but not one we should draft at 7.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 27, 2015 10:02:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand this. Hooper is the epitome of a "thrower." I'm not sold on his mechanics, although he's not like Fulmer, who clearly has Chris Sale-level funkiness. Hooper's curve doesn't look like much more than a show-me pitch at this stage, at least from the video I've seen. And his control of it is terrible. He may hit 96, but Pat Light hit 98 in college, so that means very little. Hooper's FB command is also unimpressive. He'd be a huge project. Fulmer has command issues, but he's most certainly not a "thrower." He has, and mixes fairly well, three above-average to plus or even plus-plus pitches. I'm not sold on him as a ML starter, but he's been *remarkably* healthy and holds his velocity late into games. Tate also isn't really just a thrower. He's got a plus-plus fastball that he spots well, and an average or better slider. He needs another average or better offspeed pitch, but at least the makings of one are there. Sure, he's worn down a little over the course of the season, but he's been a full time reliever, and most teams advocate increasing a pitcher's innings no more than 20-25% per year for that (and injury risk) reasons, so I'm not surprised, nor am I convinced he won't be able to handle a greater workload. Compare Tyler Jay to Hooper: Jay throws as hard, within a mph or so, but has excellent command of two additional plus pitches. You can dream on Hooper * becoming* Jay...but there's no guarantee or even that good of a chance he gets there. Envisioning him as the next Randy Johnson or David Price even is a stretch. Frankly, Price is successful not because of his FB velocity, but his excellent change and supreme command. And he's not necessarily even the best lefty in the AL, and certainly not in baseball. Hooper is **nowhere** near Price's level of command/control. I think you're making a huge leap there with that comparison. Almost all the HS pitcher have control and mechanic problem. Although Hooper has big control problem, but his mechanic is smooth. This is also the reason that I would take the risk on him besides his FB, 6-7 height, good althelicism and David Price upside. Carson Fulmer and Tate has good mix of breaking ball and FB. However, I don't like their mechanic. They throw like a CL. That's reason why I doubt they can be starter. Also, Hooper is raw because he is 3 years younger which also means that Hooper has more space for improvement. PS: Pardon for my lousy English, I am a big Sox fan from Taiwan~~. There is no way Hooper has the upside of Price. His control is so awful tthat I would be very surprised if he went in the top 25 (esp because he is asking for 4M). And his "hammer" ccurve doesn't look very hammer like. More like a slurve that he can not locate. I'd be downright shocked if the Sox or anyone for that matter took him in the top 10. Yay he's tall...so what?! Owens is tall...he has been having control issues his entire minor league career. He's just lucky his Change is so Damn good that minor leaguers will continue to swing over it. Yay he throws mid 90s! But what's the point if he either walks everyone or hits a them? This guy is not who we should draft, period! Maybe in 2 years after UCLA can (potentially) iron out his control/command. If so and we are picking in the top 10 again (seems like there is a solid opportunity for that) then sure go for it. But at this point...if Tate or Jay fall...Then all day pick one of those 2. Otherwise...best available...if not Fulmer, or another college arm...please take one of the high upside HS bats. I love Bentindini, but I'm concerned with his lack of wood bat experience. At least with the HS OF's there is still time for them to acclimate to the challenge of heavier wooden bats. From 2 to 3 months ago it seemed like we would be lucky to get even a high ceiling player with a decent chance to be a solid to better MLB player...now there seems be a chance that we could actually get a player with all-star potential. (imo) But once again time will tell. I was very concerned about that possibility weeks ago...now I'm excited about who we may pick. Go Sox. Plus...thanks for the caveat on your English skills. And good luck!
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 27, 2015 10:57:49 GMT -5
There is a reason players go to College get better and are high draft picks in 3 years and it's not because teams "missed" or something. Some players need that experience to reach their potential.
Even Price struggled in his first two year, thought about quitting working at fast food restaurants in the summer then came back stronger and became the number one pick. Maybe had he sign he still would be what he is now or maybe struggling like that made him more determine.
Nothing wrong with Hopper going to College and getting better. Probably some scouts agree with this as well.
As far as the him being a possibility for the Red Sox it's simply not going to happen with the 7th pick. The reasons have already been outlined by posters here.
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Post by alnipper on May 27, 2015 11:30:41 GMT -5
One upside about drafting Cooper is that if we don't sign him we would still get the 8th pick in next year's draft. I don't see next year's draft being as bad as this year's draft. So being in the top 10 allows us to take a signability player such as Cooper. I would prefer drafting and signing a player in this years draft. If we sign a player as good or better than Kopech I will be Happy.
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Post by nomar on May 27, 2015 12:11:21 GMT -5
One upside about drafting Cooper is that if we don't sign him we would still get the 8th pick in next year's draft. I don't see next year's draft being as bad as this year's draft. So being in the top 10 allows us to take a signability player such as Cooper. I would prefer drafting and signing a player in this years draft. If we sign a player as good or better than Kopech I will be Happy. You're unbelievable with Hooper and Aiken. They're not getting drafted by the Red Sox. Hooper is a signability risk because he wants top 10 money when he's a late first round pick. We know barely anything about these guys. I'll take the experts' opinions on why these guys aren't going to be drafted before the 20s.
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Post by jdb on May 27, 2015 17:47:40 GMT -5
MLB pipeline has a mock podcast up with us taking Benintendi saying he has slightly better tools than Cameron. One interesting thing is they say they're hearing college player but they get the feeling its board related and not a stance on wanting a more advanced player at 7. dds.mlb.com/mlb_podcasts/atm/052614_pipelinepodcast.mp3
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Post by alnipper on May 27, 2015 19:55:25 GMT -5
One upside about drafting Cooper is that if we don't sign him we would still get the 8th pick in next year's draft. I don't see next year's draft being as bad as this year's draft. So being in the top 10 allows us to take a signability player such as Cooper. I would prefer drafting and signing a player in this years draft. If we sign a player as good or better than Kopech I will be Happy. You're unbelievable with Hooper and Aiken. They're not getting drafted by the Red Sox. Hooper is a signability risk because he wants top 10 money when he's a late first round pick. We know barely anything about these guys. I'll take the experts' opinions on why these guys aren't going to be drafted before the 20s. I am unbelievable with Hooper an Aiken? That is a personal and a little strong using the word unbelievable. Read my last sentence on what I would do. The experts are the scouts and front office.
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Post by taftreign on May 28, 2015 9:46:41 GMT -5
Keith Laws Mock 2.0 is out today although I can't seem to find the full mock. However in the video he mentions Houston taking Bregman at 2 but if he isn't selected by the Astros at 2 or 5 he won't get past 7. For the Red Sox he has Benintendi who both the Cubs and TB would love to have. Notes that in a year of uncertainty teams like those I listed like to target college position players for the safety in the pick. Video: espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12967697I also think Kiley has a mock out later today potentially. We will see if we are starting to get any consensus. Update: Found it. insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/mock/?season=2015&version=2&source=keith-law-mock-draft
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Post by jdb on May 28, 2015 10:11:15 GMT -5
Keith Laws Mock 2.0 is out today although I can't seem to find the full mock. However in the video he mentions Houston taking Bregman at 2 but if he isn't selected by the Astros at 2 or 5 he won't get past 7. For the Red Sox he has Benintendi who both the Cubs and TB would love to have. Notes that in a year of uncertainty teams like those I listed like to target college position players for the safety in the pick. I also think Kiley has a mock out later today potentially. We will see if we are starting to get any consensus. I would be surprised if Swanson, Bregman, Fulmer and Tate are still on the board and think our pick comes down to Benintendi or Jay. With Jays low mileage I think he's someone we're on.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 28, 2015 10:18:16 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if Jay lasted until 7. If so we are scooping him as soon as we are on the clock. Otherwise I still say Tucker is our guy.
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Post by nomar on May 28, 2015 10:33:20 GMT -5
I'd be happy with Benintendi if Law actually heard buzz about us on him. Hopefully the power is partially legit.
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Post by taftreign on May 28, 2015 10:39:12 GMT -5
Law has Boston as one of the high teams on Canadian slugger Josh Naylor. A 1B only prospect w plus plus power. BA's #61 prospect. Also TB has interest in him. Not sure the type we'd take at 7 and won't get anywhere near our next pick.
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Post by jrffam05 on May 28, 2015 10:45:17 GMT -5
My top ten: 1. Dillon Tate 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Brendan Rogers 4. Alex Bregman 5. Andrew Benintendi 6. Kolby Allard 7. Kyle Tucker 8. Dansby Swanson 9. Brady Aiken 10. Ian Happ A couple notes: I really want a pitcher in this draft, but I'm just not that comfortable with any name other Tate or Fulmer....Allard would be next on my list. Despite my affinity for a pitcher, I see a number of bats having higher floors in this draft and that is reflected in my list. Also, I know Swanson is unlikely to drop to us, but even if he did I have 7 players ahead of him. Not sure why but I just can't get excited about about his profile. Its probably because he seems like Deven Marrero with a full grade higher of a hit tool. I understand thats a very valuable major leaguer but just isn't as appealing to me for some irrational reason. This is my general thinking also. I would swap Allard and Swanson and Benintendi (on an underslot deal) with Tucker. So in order one of Tate, Fulmer, Ro dgers, Bregman, Tucker, Swanson, Benintendi (assuming we get cap room) and I'd be happy with the pick. I think if one or more of Cameron, Jay, or Allard go before #7 it works to our benefit. Also, BA has twice mocked Fulmer getting to us at #7, and us passing. Also in their Mock if Texas goes Bregman over Tate (reasonable) Tate could reach us at #7, but I doubt in that situation Twins take Cameron over Tate. Edit: This is very wishful thinking. But that's the point of the draft.
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Post by taftreign on May 28, 2015 11:20:19 GMT -5
My list (Taking out Swanson and Rodgers who I don't see a scenario they drop):
1. Tate 2. Bregman 3. Tucker 4. Whitely (Underslot) 5. Jay 6. Benintendi 7. Allard (Underslot) 8. Fulmer
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