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Post by berklee314 on Oct 4, 2012 9:41:58 GMT -5
Now that the Sox have their highest draft pick in years, who would the masses like to see them Target come June. I realize there is much movement up and down the charts to happen as the season plays out, but this is a key pick for the team that needs to think big.
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Post by azblue on Oct 4, 2012 10:01:11 GMT -5
2001 7 Orioles Chris Smith (minors) LHP Cumberland University (Lebanon, TN) 2000 7 Rockies Matt Harrington (minors) RHP Palmdale HS (Palmdale, CA) 1999 7 Royals Kyle Snyder (minors) RHP University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Chapel Hill, NC) 1998 7 Reds Austin Kearns (minors) OF Lafayette HS (Lexington, KY) 1997 7 Royals Dan Reichert (minors) RHP University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA) 1996 7 Giants Matt White (minors) RHP Waynesboro Area HS (Waynesboro, PA) 1995 7 Rangers Jonathan Johnson (minors) RHP Florida State University (Tallahassee, FL) 1994 7 Rockies Doug Million (minors) LHP Sarasota HS (Sarasota, FL)
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During an 8-year stretch, various MLB organizations thought that the players above were great choices at No. 7, too. There will be a significant risk, no matter how good a prospect looks to the scouts.
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Post by berklee314 on Oct 4, 2012 10:24:44 GMT -5
No question that there wiil be significant risk, but also some huge potential upside. This is an opportunity to take someone that has been ranked higher than almost anyone the Sox have had a chance at grabbing in decades. In my mind, the Sox must think big.Take a chance on huge upside. Aim high with this pick, they cannot be safe and settle on a solid prospect at this spot.
In my mind if Appel is there, we take him. Otherwise I am currently hoping for Frazier, Hollon, or Meadows. Hollon's tendon issue not withstanding. If deemed healthy, he has the type of upside I think should be targeted.
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Post by jdb on Oct 4, 2012 10:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 4, 2012 10:44:02 GMT -5
Far to early to even speculate on our #7 selection. All prospects have another season of baseball to play which could very well skewer the rankings dramatically.
One thing to keep in mind, though, if Appel is available to us and, assuming he continues his dominance at Stanford, it would be wise to select him. Having failed to agree to a contract with the Pirates after being picked by them this year, he has fewer options. The Sox could offer slot money, and what can Boras do? If he declines again, the Sox are awarded another top protected pick next year in what some pundits claim is a stronger draft.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 4, 2012 11:39:09 GMT -5
If somehow Frazier drops anything else I don't know yet. Ask me as the draft nears then we'll have a better idea.
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Post by futurefenwaystars on Oct 4, 2012 13:22:04 GMT -5
I want OF/Closer Michael Lorenzen from Cal State Fullerton. He is a gamer with a plus arm, fielding, and hit tools with power and speed potential.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 4, 2012 14:09:40 GMT -5
Highest upside possible!!!
Sometimes you have to look at a draft and view it as a whole then make your game plan from there which could involve "punting" on your first pick and spending in the deeper areas later on. We won't be picking this high again for a long time and the new CBA limits our chances for top end talent. Go for highest upside possible and go from there.
If by chance (long shot I know) Appel and Frazier are both available I'd pick Frazier but 100% expect the Sox to pick Appel.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 4, 2012 15:40:05 GMT -5
One name I wouldn't forget is Trey Ball a LHP from a Indiana HS. I remember Temple posted last year that they may have been scouting him.
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Post by nomar on Oct 4, 2012 15:44:54 GMT -5
One name I wouldn't forget is Trey Ball a LHP from a Indiana HS. I remember Temple posted last year that they may have been scouting him. They also didnt expect to pick 7th. Ball is a mid round selection on the mocks ive seen. The Sox need a high upside guy.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 4, 2012 15:52:36 GMT -5
One name I wouldn't forget is Trey Ball a LHP from a Indiana HS. I remember Temple posted last year that they may have been scouting him. You know when I was reading up on this draft that name sounded very familiar to me, I guess that's why.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 4, 2012 16:04:42 GMT -5
One name I wouldn't forget is Trey Ball a LHP from a Indiana HS. I remember Temple posted last year that they may have been scouting him. They also didnt expect to pick 7th. Ball is a mid round selection on the mocks ive seen. The Sox need a high upside guy. Its way too early. By draft time he could be a consensus top talent or high upside prospect most likely going to College and not picked in the 1st 10 rounds. Just throwing one more name out there. We won't know anything conclusive until weeks before the draft.
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Post by klostrophobic on Oct 4, 2012 17:50:54 GMT -5
2001 7 Orioles Chris Smith (minors) LHP Cumberland University (Lebanon, TN) 2000 7 Rockies Matt Harrington (minors) RHP Palmdale HS (Palmdale, CA) 1999 7 Royals Kyle Snyder (minors) RHP University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Chapel Hill, NC) 1998 7 Reds Austin Kearns (minors) OF Lafayette HS (Lexington, KY) 1997 7 Royals Dan Reichert (minors) RHP University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA) 1996 7 Giants Matt White (minors) RHP Waynesboro Area HS (Waynesboro, PA) 1995 7 Rangers Jonathan Johnson (minors) RHP Florida State University (Tallahassee, FL) 1994 7 Rockies Doug Million (minors) LHP Sarasota HS (Sarasota, FL) _____________________________________________________________________ During an 8-year stretch, various MLB organizations thought that the players above were great choices at No. 7, too. There will be a significant risk, no matter how good a prospect looks to the scouts. Sure. Then look at the next nine years. 2010 Matt Harvey 2009 Mike Minor 2008 Yonder Alonso 2007 Matt LaPorta 2006 Clayton Kershaw 2005 Troy Tulowitzki 2004 Homer Bailey 2003 Nick Markakis 2002 Prince Fielder With the exception of the guy the Red Sox drafted first, these are all above-average players and some of them are elite.
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Post by mjammz on Oct 4, 2012 17:55:44 GMT -5
I will say that having the Marlins picking directly in front of us still helps us a little bit. Even with the new slotting system they refuse to take the "tough sign" guys. They came down to the wire with Heaney last year who was one of the easiest signs in the draft
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 4, 2012 20:08:51 GMT -5
I would like to re-visit this thread in 6 - 7 months when we have a better handle on how these prospects actually perform. Today's Mike Trout could turn out to be Jason Place in just a few months time.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 4, 2012 20:32:54 GMT -5
Mike Trout is still today's Mike Trout, isn't he?
Klostrophobic, that's a really impressive list. The only "bust" of the group seems to be LaPorta, and I'm pretty sure anyone who says they didn't like him is lying.
I really think the Moneyball-driven attention paid amateur statistics has really paid off. We aren't seeing high school pitchers with "electric" stuff but no performance record to back it up taken in the high first round any more. Teams are getting smarter.
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Post by azblue on Oct 4, 2012 22:26:03 GMT -5
I would like to re-visit this thread in 6 - 7 months when we have a better handle on how these prospects actually perform. Today's Mike Trout could turn out to be Jason Place in just a few months time. Second that motion.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Oct 6, 2012 9:41:18 GMT -5
I would like to re-visit this thread in 6 - 7 months when we have a better handle on how these prospects actually perform. Today's Mike Trout could turn out to be Jason Place in just a few months time. Is there any catcher who might conceivably now be, or might project over the next 7 months to be, a prospect worthy of the #7 pick? If such a prospect exists, or develops over the next 7 months, that's who I'd target.
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Post by jdb on Oct 6, 2012 9:52:51 GMT -5
One of this drafts strengths is HS catching. Maybe nobody gets up to the top ten area but I could see some in the late first early second. Here's a link from Klaws top 30 talking about the depth. insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/mlb_draft/id/8309824/stanford-mark-appel-austin-wilson-top-prospects-2013-draft24. Jonathan Denney, C, Yukon (Okla.) HS In a deep class for high school catchers, Denney stood out this summer for his ability to consistently square up the baseball, including a long home run at the Area Code Games, where it's difficult for hitters of any age to get the ball over the fence.
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Post by psusox14 on Oct 6, 2012 12:56:06 GMT -5
If the draft were held today, and my name was Ben Cherington, I'd try to get one of Mark Appel, Austin Meadows, Austin Wilson, Clint Frazier, Tyler Stanek, or Kohl Stewart, in that order assuming at least one of them is available.
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Post by soxin8 on Oct 6, 2012 14:33:52 GMT -5
We all know a lot will change in rankings between now and draft day due to injuries and performance, but in a September 12 chat, Callis said he wouldn't be surprised if college pitchers Appel, Stanek, and Manea went 1,2,3, so they may not be available.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 6, 2012 16:50:04 GMT -5
One of this drafts strengths is HS catching. Maybe nobody gets up to the top ten area but I could see some in the late first early second. Here's a link from Klaws top 30 talking about the depth. insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/mlb_draft/id/8309824/stanford-mark-appel-austin-wilson-top-prospects-2013-draft24. Jonathan Denney, C, Yukon (Okla.) HS In a deep class for high school catchers, Denney stood out this summer for his ability to consistently square up the baseball, including a long home run at the Area Code Games, where it's difficult for hitters of any age to get the ball over the fence. If I wanted to draft a catcher I'd want basically the opposite of Blake Swihart in that I'd want a guy with great defensive ability and the chance to above average offensively.
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Post by bentossaurus on Oct 6, 2012 17:32:39 GMT -5
You're saying Swihart has bad defensive abilities and is below average offensively?
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Post by remember04 on Oct 6, 2012 18:32:08 GMT -5
You're saying Swihart has bad defensive abilities and is below average offensively? I knew somebody would take that wrong. No. I'm saying most of his ability is tied into his offense but that he has a chance to be above average defensively.
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Post by bentossaurus on Oct 7, 2012 9:01:50 GMT -5
Oh, we kind of agree then. Couldn't read that on your first post though. Basically you'd like a defense first catcher but still with offensive upside, and feel Swihart projects the other way around.
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