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Post by joemooneysgarden on Oct 11, 2012 14:12:38 GMT -5
Geo (Wash. DC) . . . If you had the Red Sox's 7th pick who would you consider at that spot? . . . Klaw . . . Best player available at the 7th pick might be one of the Georgia HS bats, Meadows or Frazier, or a college arm outside of the top three. It's a weird spot to pick in unless the class improves a lot between now and June. I know its impossible to tell who is going to rise/fall in the draft, or what this draft will even look like in eight months, but the last two "consensus" #1 overalls were: 2012- Mark Appel (8th) 2011- Anthony Rendon (6th) Nothing weird about those names.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 11, 2012 15:21:43 GMT -5
Can someone either give me a link or a simple explanation on draft pick trades? Didnt MLB make it possible to trade them now? Not suggesting the sox trade just wondering. You can only trade the picks acquired via the competive balance lottery. As of right now, tradeable picks are owned by KC, Miami, Arizona, Baltimore, Cincinnati and Detroit after the 1st round and San Diego, Cleveland, Colorado, Oakland, Milwaukee and Miami after the 2nd round.
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Post by lasershow07 on Oct 29, 2012 12:49:05 GMT -5
Long time reader, first time poster. I imagine there will never be a better opportunity for some serious hyperbole: Clint Frazier's bat speed and the ease with which he generates it reminds me of Manny. There I said it. Watch this if you haven't yet:
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Post by remember04 on Oct 29, 2012 13:34:30 GMT -5
Long time reader, first time poster. I imagine there will never be a better opportunity for some serious hyperbole: Clint Frazier's bat speed and the ease with which he generates it reminds me of Manny. There I said it. Watch this if you haven't yet: Right now he's my man-crush for this draft but I don't see it happening. I think he'll be gone by the time we pick and if he isn't I think they'll go college pitcher anyway.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 29, 2012 19:34:48 GMT -5
Long time reader, first time poster. I imagine there will never be a better opportunity for some serious hyperbole: Clint Frazier's bat speed and the ease with which he generates it reminds me of Manny. There I said it. Watch this if you haven't yet: His swing reminds one of Manny's doesn't it?! Not a big stride but a quick weight shift before rapidly rotating his hips. If he were a golfer one might also say that he has "good lag" in his wrists which might allow him to get an explosive release.
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Post by jrffam05 on Oct 29, 2012 20:06:07 GMT -5
Not knowing much about this draft class, but base on how it sounds weak what would you think about purposing drafting someone unsignable an having that pick and extra cash to play with next draft.
Not sure if that is legal and figure you want to start developing that prospect early but an interesting idea
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Post by lasershow07 on Oct 29, 2012 20:14:43 GMT -5
Frazier obviously has a lot of support from Temple and a number of other people on this board so I know this isn't novel commentary but the guy just looks great swinging a bat. Sarasoxer, you're right, there's a pronounced difference between the time his hip swings open and his hands start moving forward. Based on this alone, it's obvious that he has a very hot girlfriend, or probably wife considering he's from GA.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 29, 2012 20:51:40 GMT -5
I like the swing, and he does generate easy power. But I have to be honest - I don't see the Manny similarity at all. Manny was much more fluid, and his hands were freakishly quick.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 5:06:16 GMT -5
Most mock drafts that i have read have the Red Sox taking Clint Frazier. I know its early and things can change. bleacherreport Red Sox: Kohl Stewart, RHP - 9 Pittsburgh Clint Frazier. mymlbdraft. and they seem to get it right every year. Red Sox Clint Frazier. throughthefencebaseball Red Sox 3B Kris Bryant - 3 Rockies Clint Frazier. minorleagueradar Red Sox Clint Frazier. beforeitsnews Red Sox 3B Kris Bryant - 3 Rockies Clint Frazier. bigleaguefutures Red Sox Stanford OF Austin Wilson this guy is my favorite in the draft 5 tool player with big time power potential the next Giancarlo Stanton but with more speed and better glove. But i don't see him droping that far. prosportsdaily Red Sox P Mark Appel. I don't see this one either. The rest of mock draft Red Sox Clint Frazier. If the Red Sox can get either Austin Wilson or Clint Frazier it will be a good day. Can't wait for the Cape Cod League to start so i can see these guys again and this year we have a shot at landing one it will make it more fun to watch them.
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Post by borisman on Oct 30, 2012 5:54:34 GMT -5
Here's a good video of Manny. I didn't see any HS videos of Manny to compare at the same age as Frazier but I just didn't have the time to really research it. I like Frazier also and he looks like he'll be a big power hitter. He's already compact so no wasted motion or loose parts.
Mind you, this video was Manny in his prime.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 30, 2012 8:40:51 GMT -5
Looking at both the Frazier video and that of Manny, Frazier has a wider stance and a shorter stride. I remembered Manny as having a smaller stride and not picking up his front leg as much as appears in the video provided. Outside of that though, the mechanics looked similar to me. Fluidity is a common trait as several have mentioned. lasershow knows that chicks dig the long ball.
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Post by jioh on Oct 30, 2012 10:02:55 GMT -5
I'd be very happy with Frazier at #7, but right now it seems unlikely that he'll fall that far. There are two ways he can get to #7. One is that several (or a couple) people come out of nowhere to become superstuds and work themselves into the top six. The other is if Frazier stumbles a little either on or off the field. Drafting a player who underformed his final year has become our signature move (Brentz, Bradley, Marrero, some pitchers). Big question: can this do this at #7, if Frazier or Appel or Maneaa or Meadows has a less than spectacular year? p.s. this guy gives us Frazier, but that requires someone ahead of us loving the huge physical talent of Stanford's Wilson: www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft
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Post by remember04 on Oct 30, 2012 10:17:27 GMT -5
I'd be very happy with Frazier at #7, but right now it seems unlikely that he'll fall that far. There are two ways he can get to #7. One is that several (or a couple) people come out of nowhere to become superstuds and work themselves into the top six. The other is if Frazier stumbles a little either on or off the field. Drafting a player who underformed his final year has become our signature move (Brentz, Bradley, Marrero, some pitchers). Big question: can this do this at #7, if Frazier or Appel or Maneaa or Meadows has a less than spectacular year? p.s. this guy gives us Frazier, but that requires someone ahead of us loving the huge physical talent of Stanford's Wilson: www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-DraftI can also see teams not wanting to risk a top pick on a HSer. Financial demands could drop him to us like Appel last year and to answer your question, if that does happen then they damn well better draft him. IMO we aren't going to get another opportunity like this for a long time. Don't play it safe and waste it. Go for as high an upside as possible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 30, 2012 10:29:17 GMT -5
Seriously everyone, you realize that looking at MLB mock drafts right now is like looking at NFL mock drafts in August, right? There's an entire spring season to play.
I mean, talk about it all you want, but you might as well be looking at mock drafts for 2014 at this point too.
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Post by jioh on Oct 30, 2012 12:15:03 GMT -5
Surely nobody thinks that we are predicting the exact picks. But this kind of dreamy speculation is one way to deal with the offseason after a traumatic season, and it's our highest pick (tie) since the Impossible Dream.
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Post by rcmark on Oct 30, 2012 14:11:26 GMT -5
Surely nobody thinks that we are predicting the exact picks. But this kind of dreamy speculation is one way to deal with the offseason after a traumatic season, and it's our highest pick (tie) since the Impossible Dream. I agree with this 100%. We've earned the right to have a little fun.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 30, 2012 14:57:28 GMT -5
Surely nobody thinks that we are predicting the exact picks. But this kind of dreamy speculation is one way to deal with the offseason after a traumatic season, and it's our highest pick (tie) since the Impossible Dream. This type of thing happens every year but this year is different based on how high our pick is. I think we all know things will change between then and now.....And don't call me Shirley.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 30, 2012 17:04:08 GMT -5
Fair enough. Just making sure.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 30, 2012 17:57:30 GMT -5
Surely nobody thinks that we are predicting the exact picks. But this kind of dreamy speculation is one way to deal with the offseason after a traumatic season, and it's our highest pick (tie) since the Impossible Dream. This type of thing happens every year but this year is different based on how high our pick is. I think we all know things will change between then and now.....And don't call me Shirley. GREAT movie! We all dream.
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Post by jeremynofakerbaker on Nov 1, 2012 3:31:22 GMT -5
Sean Manaea would be my main man
SP Mark appel RF Austin Wilson OF Michael Lorenzen(only if drafted as an OF)
a sleeper name here could be SP Jonathan Crawford(Sox FO loves those Gators)
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 2, 2012 14:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Nov 2, 2012 16:51:07 GMT -5
Now that news of qualifying offers are rolling in, are they assigned in order of the 1st round (reverse order of record)? Do all eligible teams (ie those that have had "comped" players sign elsewhere) have to get a comp pick before any team can have a 2nd comp pick?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 2, 2012 17:18:44 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping that not many qualifying offers would go out since the Red Sox only have one FA worthy of it and he is likely to resign. The picks after the 1st round will take a hit for the Red sox. So far I have seen reported 8 qualifying offers, definitely much less than the other system but still a bit of a high number and there will be more. We'll have to wait to see who accepts and who declines to see how it will affect the Red Sox picks.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 2, 2012 17:59:55 GMT -5
No qualifying offer for Edwin Jackson. Not sure who else might get an offer so we're sitting at 9. Ortiz seems to be ready to re-sign which would bring that down to 8.
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 2, 2012 18:10:30 GMT -5
No qualifying offer for Edwin Jackson. Not sure who else might get an offer so we're sitting at 9. Ortiz seems to be ready to re-sign which would bring that down to 8. Great! For God's sake sign Jackson! The speculated Haren deal is a worse case scenario where we take on 2 contracts. Haven't we been there before and didn't we just free ourselves from that circumstance??? If we really want to trade Lackey, fine, trade him for something else of value.
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