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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 17, 2014 20:50:08 GMT -5
8/18 Red Sox (RHP Brandon Workman 1-6 4.45) vs. Angels (LHP C.J. Wilson 9-8 4.71) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI8/19 Red Sox (RHP Allen Webster 3-1 4.79) vs. Angels (RHP Jered Weaver 13-7 3.66) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI8/20 Red Sox (RHP Clay Buchholz 5-7 5.79) vs. Angels (RHP Garrett Richards 13-4 2.53) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI8/21 Red Sox (TBD) vs. Angels (RHP Matt Shoemaker 11-4 3.84) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by Guidas on Aug 18, 2014 11:17:34 GMT -5
As I've stated for the last several years, this team is nothing without Big Papi. Alex Speier concurs, and agrees with me and others here that this is a blessing and forewarning of a significant and fast-approaching problem if not addressed (and it's not just HRs - it's HRs with the threat of high OBP: www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2014/08/18/are-red-sox-too-dependent-david-ortizExcerpt: He's driven in 91 of the team's 475 runs (19.2 percent), the highest percentage of any team's runs driven in by a single player in the big leagues. He's hit 28 of the team's 92 homers (30.4 percent), accounting for the second-highest percentage of a team's homers by any player (behind only Mike Stanton, who has hit 32 percent of the Marlins' homers) in the majors this year. |
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 18, 2014 11:41:02 GMT -5
As I've stated for the last several years, this team is nothing without Big Papi. Alex Speier concurs, and agrees with me and others here that this is a blessing and forewarning of a significant and fast-approaching problem if not addressed (and it's not just HRs - it's HRs with the threat of high OBP: www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2014/08/18/are-red-sox-too-dependent-david-ortizExcerpt: He's driven in 91 of the team's 475 runs (19.2 percent), the highest percentage of any team's runs driven in by a single player in the big leagues. He's hit 28 of the team's 92 homers (30.4 percent), accounting for the second-highest percentage of a team's homers by any player (behind only Mike Stanton, who has hit 32 percent of the Marlins' homers) in the majors this year. No we can plug anyone in there because the stats geeks tell me that RBI's is a useless stat. So the article only means something to people like Showalter and old school people like me. |
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 18, 2014 11:56:55 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is arguing this, other than the members who put weight into his .247 average. I know, people don't want to hear this crap, but I've concluded that were going all in on Stanton. All in. Whether that means dealing Owens/Mookie/WMB/Vazquez/Margot (or whatever packages are being discussed in SP Meta) this offseason or next year, or giving him a ~$300mil deal after the 2016 season, Giancarlo will be Papi's replacement (in terms of production).
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 18, 2014 13:17:15 GMT -5
Mookie called up, JBJ optioned.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 18, 2014 13:24:50 GMT -5
Mookie called up, JBJ optioned. Well shows I'm wrong. I'd have kept Bradley at center solely because of his defense. But the Red Sox clearly think his offense is so jacked up that they have to send him down. I guess that's why I'm posting on a forum and they are being paid to evaluate. Here's to hoping both JBJ gets his hitting back and Mookie dominates. |
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Post by godot on Aug 18, 2014 13:57:59 GMT -5
They need to change Betts name to yo yo. Strange move for Jr. How many weeks left there, and will it make that much of a difference. Xander should have been the one sent down-- to AA with a bib. Does FO really know what they are do/ing?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 18, 2014 14:55:17 GMT -5
They need to change Betts name to yo yo. Strange move for Jr. How many weeks left there, and will it make that much of a difference. Xander should have been the one sent down-- to AA with a bib. Does FO really know what they are do/ing? These are all auditions. We were writing about that at the beginning of the year, hoping of course that they could pull off another season like the last. That wasn't to be. It's all about position, I think. Can't see them putting in Betts as SS or 3rd. He played a dozen or so games at the former in Lowell then they switched him to 2nd. Since then, he hasn't played on the left side at all. I think the front office is just seeing what they have. Betts has been killing it in AAA. They may want to see how well that transfers before next season starts. |
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Post by godot on Aug 18, 2014 15:56:43 GMT -5
What you say is true to a large extent, but why now when the AAA season is almost over,and when it was apparent some time ago that he was not a major league hitter. Heck, Xander is hacking it both with the glove and bat, and he is still here ( although an adequate replacement may be in question). It just smells of desperation, but maybe better late then never.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 18, 2014 16:50:01 GMT -5
I'm betting Betts is only up until Craig is ready in about a week at which point I'll be annoyed.
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Post by marrcus on Aug 18, 2014 16:58:24 GMT -5
Since winning isn't important at this point it's a bit surprising they don't mind freaking JBJ out for the rest of the month until Sept callups.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 18, 2014 17:03:53 GMT -5
Personally, I wish they would do the same with Xander. He needs just as much work as Bradley especially when you consider Xander's need to improve his fielding.
But people don't want to waste an option. I think some time in the minors would do Xander some good.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 18, 2014 17:07:03 GMT -5
What you say is true to a large extent, but why now when the AAA season is almost over,and when it was apparent some time ago that he was not a major league hitter. Heck, Xander is hacking it both with the glove and bat, and he is still here ( although an adequate replacement may be in question). It just smells of desperation, but maybe better late then never. 1. Unlike some here, the Red Sox aren't going to write off a player from ever being a Major League caliber hitter after 400 ABs. They are going to work with him, and try to help him improve and get back to the hitting he had shown at every level before getting to the majors. Luckily for us, the Red Sox aren't that shortsighted. 2. Xander absolutely needs some time in the minors, but unfortunately we traded away/released all our SS options at the insistence of many of the fans who thought all Xander needed was to be named the full time SS. |
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 18, 2014 17:15:01 GMT -5
But people don't want to waste an option. I think some time in the minors would do Xander some good 20 days from now is Sept 7th. If they bring Bradley back before then, no option is "Wasted". |
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 18, 2014 17:17:24 GMT -5
But people don't want to waste an option. I think some time in the minors would do Xander some good 20 days from now is Sept 7th. If they bring Bradley back before then, no option is "Wasted". I'm talking about sending Xander down in that post. And if that's the case, it's a no brainer to send him down. Play Holt/Johnson at SS until the end of the AAA season. |
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 18, 2014 17:51:58 GMT -5
I'm talking about sending Xander down in that post. And if that's the case, it's a no brainer to send him down. Play Holt/Johnson at SS until the end of the AAA season. You are correct. Agreed. |
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 18, 2014 18:18:24 GMT -5
You have got to love a SS that hangs the 2nd baseman out to get cleaned out by the runner.
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Post by godot on Aug 18, 2014 18:35:16 GMT -5
What you say is true to a large extent, but why now when the AAA season is almost over,and when it was apparent some time ago that he was not a major league hitter. Heck, Xander is hacking it both with the glove and bat, and he is still here ( although an adequate replacement may be in question). It just smells of desperation, but maybe better late then never. 1. Unlike some here, the Red Sox aren't going to write off a player from ever being a Major League caliber hitter after 400 ABs. They are going to work with him, and try to help him improve and get back to the hitting he had shown at every level before getting to the majors. Luckily for us, the Red Sox aren't that shortsighted. 2. Xander absolutely needs some time in the minors, but unfortunately we traded away/released all our SS options at the insistence of many of the fans who thought all Xander needed was to be named the full time SS. You did not get the point. Wasn't saying he is doomed but he just isn't doing right now. This has been obvious for some time, so why now, and why treat Mookie like he was a YO Yo. The FO is a mystery to me. First they do not sign Drew and then sign him, only to give him away to the Yanks. And of course, they play with Mookie like he was a basket ball. Xander has been bad for sometime, but he is still here, and they treat Pawtucket like it was their bull pen. Of course, they were told they were taking a big risk with the lest side of their infield, and having A.J. as their catcher. I believe in experimentation, but this is more like incompetence. |
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 18, 2014 18:52:13 GMT -5
I wish the organization would teach put the ball in play with less than 2 outs and a runner on 3rd. It is not rocket science. But no one on this team seems to understand it.
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 18, 2014 19:28:11 GMT -5
Don't run on Christian! what a gun!
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 18, 2014 19:43:57 GMT -5
I really wish Pedroia would stop swinging for the fences and hitting so many fly balls. Fly balls by little guys are usually outs. They don't have the power to reach the gaps or fences.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 18, 2014 19:59:49 GMT -5
The thing that stands out the most with me regarding Mookie is his ability to score runs. He gets on base and he's an excellent base runner. I really think he will be a better lead off guy than Ellsbury was. He's obviously being auditioned as the likely CF for next year. I'm all for it.
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Post by godot on Aug 18, 2014 20:16:53 GMT -5
I wish I had your crystal ball and moxee. Gee, after a few games you are predicting this. I am impressed. Betts has better skills than Xander and Jr.though, at least offensively.
Great victory. Workman has his command tonight. Xander has poor form, mostly arms. He can't seem to stand back and get his body and hips into his swing, resulting in tappers and flies ( some may drop in). Really seems to have poor coordination.
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Post by aussiesox on Aug 18, 2014 20:25:18 GMT -5
Good thing Pedroia didn't hit a fly ball there, he's too small to be doing that for us.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 18, 2014 20:29:45 GMT -5
Angels fans must love the hit and run just like we do.
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