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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 22:20:00 GMT -5
Sean McAdam @sean_McAdam
Breaking: Red Sox have hired John Farrell as manager, signing him to multi-year deal. Official announcement coming soon.
jmei edit: title change
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 22:22:14 GMT -5
Glad they expedited it and got their guy. Anxious to see what they gave up to get him.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 22:26:53 GMT -5
Alex Speier @alexspeier
Source: #redsox agree to hire Farrell through 2015. Compensation will be announced in next couple days, but deal w/Farrell done.
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Post by jsk793 on Oct 20, 2012 22:34:57 GMT -5
Very happy with this. So, lets begin the speculation. What does everybody think we gave up to get him?
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 20, 2012 22:39:33 GMT -5
Aviles and or someone from rule 5. May be the Jays go to pick 2 from the rule 5 guys? This is my guess.
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Post by welovewally on Oct 20, 2012 22:42:03 GMT -5
Looks like Larry.... I mean Ben,... got his guy.. Hopefully we didn't give up much, a rule 5 guy like Hazelbaker
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 22:42:58 GMT -5
Looks like Larry.... I mean Ben,... got his guy.. Hopefully we didn't give up much, a rule 5 guy like Hazelbaker SERIOUSLY? Peter Gammons @pgammo Will Farrell end up in Boston? Likely. Has it been decided between him and Ausmus? No. Has it been ceded to Cherington? Yes.big day Sunday |
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 22:44:56 GMT -5
I will say they gave up one of Stolmy Pimental, Alex Wilson or Drake Britton. I don't think it will be more than that, but something of substance. I saw Jim Callis guess it was Pimental and I think it makes sense.
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Post by jsk793 on Oct 20, 2012 22:45:56 GMT -5
ill go with aviles and hazelbaker. If we gave up britton i can live with it, but I dont think we gave up a top 15 prospect.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 20, 2012 22:47:14 GMT -5
I will say they gave up one of Stolmy Pimental, Alex Wilson or Drake Britton. I don't think it will be more than that, but something of substance. I saw Jim Callis guess it was Pimental and I think it makes sense. I'm guessing it's Hazelbaker and Britton, although I hope I'm wrong. I hope it is Pimental as I don't think he'll really amount to much. I still think Wilson could be an ok middle reliever (which the Sox have a decent supply of). I think Britton could at least be a decent lefty out of the pen, which is a rarer thing, with a chance at being a backend starter. |
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 22:49:57 GMT -5
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Source: In John Farrell trade, it appears one player will go in *each* direction. So #RedSox will get a player from #BlueJays too.
This is nothing new, because its the MLB rule. But, maybe he means a player of some worth
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Post by rcmark on Oct 20, 2012 22:52:42 GMT -5
I am worried about who is headed to Toronto in return, but I am certainly impressed with the speed in which this got done.
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Post by jsk793 on Oct 20, 2012 22:52:47 GMT -5
it could mean the player we send over is more valuable than we expected
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 22:52:59 GMT -5
RT @jonmorosi: Source: Player going from #RedSox to #BlueJays was a major leaguer in 2012.
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 22:53:00 GMT -5
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Source: Player going from #RedSox to #BlueJays was a major leaguer in 2012.
Let the speculation begin!
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 22:53:56 GMT -5
Bard, Aviles, Bailey, Melacon, Doubront (only if we get MLB back), Ciriaco, Kalish?
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Post by jsk793 on Oct 20, 2012 22:55:08 GMT -5
I seriously doubt we would send doubront over. I could see bard, but not doubront or bailey
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Post by jsk793 on Oct 20, 2012 22:55:29 GMT -5
personally, i think it's aviles
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Post by klostrophobic on Oct 20, 2012 22:58:07 GMT -5
If they gave up anyone who gets a single positive major league atbat or out, it's a joke.
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Post by mjammz on Oct 20, 2012 23:01:05 GMT -5
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
I'm told #BlueJays are getting an infielder. And no, not Will Middlebrooks
HAS to be Aviles.. or Ciriaco
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Post by justen on Oct 20, 2012 23:01:38 GMT -5
I'm thinking Gomez or Ciriaco
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Post by bentossaurus on Oct 20, 2012 23:02:21 GMT -5
I am utterly disappointed with this. Not that I think Farrell is that bad of a manager (nor good to be honest) but the process makes me fear for the worst going forward.
It seems to me they went with a pre-determined mindset/outcome (getting Farrel) and then proceeded with the interviews just in case they couldn't get a deal with the Blue Jays. It's the reversion of the analytical and quasi-scientific approach that I expect the FO to have, not only in conducting a search for a new manager but also player acquisition and decisions.
Plan A was Farrel all along and then Plan B was whoever came out of the interview process on top. Second year in a row we're having this, we conduct an entire process for a managerial job and then in the end we say "Screw it!" and hire the guy someone has an infatuation with. Last year Lucchino with Valentine and this year, who knows who, with Farrel.
Maybe if they played it the same way, Farrel would have still been the choice. But that they went out of the process bothers me to no end, and we don't even know the compensation yet. I am deeply disappointed with the FO and concerned going forward.
Having said, I hope Farrel IS the best choice.
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Post by Pete Morrison on Oct 20, 2012 23:03:21 GMT -5
Ivan De Jesus makes the most sense to me as Morosi is reporting it is an IF who played at MLB level last season. |
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Post by marti427 on Oct 20, 2012 23:03:37 GMT -5
I rather it be Pimental than Britton, I think a change of scenery would do him well and I think Britton could off the Sox something whether its rotation wise or bullpen
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Post by mredsox89 on Oct 20, 2012 23:03:47 GMT -5
According to Jon Morosi of Foxsports, the player going to TOR is a MLB IF, not named Middlebrooks
Guys I guess it could be: Aviles, Iglesias, Ciriaco, Gomez, De Jesus, Valencia
My guess is its one of the SS's
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