danr
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Post by danr on Sept 17, 2014 19:20:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch him. In this game he has thrown 55 pitches in three innings, nearly half of them balls. I can't see the game, but from looking at Gameday it appears he might be getting squeezed a little. There have been quite a few balls that didn't miss by much. In any case, he is not the answer to the Sox pitching needs. Of course, neither is Buchholz.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 17, 2014 19:42:13 GMT -5
Brentz's swing still reminds me of Longoria's.
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Post by danr on Sept 17, 2014 19:53:53 GMT -5
Wasn't that Brentz's first major league AB?
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Post by ianrs on Sept 17, 2014 20:38:25 GMT -5
Clay Buccholz: most inconsistent pitcher ever?
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 17, 2014 21:38:20 GMT -5
With Brentz and Castillo is that now 8 players with their first MLB hit this year? Has to be some kind of record
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 17, 2014 23:06:22 GMT -5
What has happened to Middlebrooks power?
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Post by rangoon82 on Sept 17, 2014 23:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 18, 2014 12:29:32 GMT -5
Clay Buccholz: most inconsistent pitcher ever? Well, he is very consistent with his inconsistency.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 18, 2014 15:22:45 GMT -5
4. McCann - Underperformed I am not saying the Red Sox should all together abandon free agency, but I much prefer the Napoli/Drew/Victorino/Dempster-type risks (who combined don't add up to Crawford's guarantees) over the flashy name who's likely 1. under a more intense microscope now that he's likely paid a ton 2. in a race against the physiological clock and 3. living/working in a new, unfamiliar environment which can bring a whole new subset of issues that didn't previously exist. When you include pitch-framing, a skill he was well-established as having, McCann has been worth every penny and then some. I very much agree with your general take on avoiding top-tier FA, though. The combined lesson may be that it still makes sense to look for market inequalities, even at this level of talent; McCann was a guaranteed bargain in large part because not every front office is aboard the pitch-framing train.\
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Post by p23w on Sept 18, 2014 19:02:02 GMT -5
Mookie is my new Nomar.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 18, 2014 21:51:30 GMT -5
Why is Bradley getting any at bats? He costs us because he can't hit.
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 19, 2014 9:45:14 GMT -5
Why is Bradley getting any at bats? He costs us because he can't hit. He costs us what, though? And do you really want to play Weeks over him whenever Castillo gets an off day? JBJ has more to benefit from with these at bats this month than anyone else, save for maybe Castillo and the other guys who were just called up.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 19, 2014 10:00:03 GMT -5
Why is Bradley getting any at bats? He costs us because he can't hit. He costs us what, though? And do you really want to play Weeks over him whenever Castillo gets an off day? JBJ has more to benefit from with these at bats this month than anyone else, save for maybe Castillo and the other guys who were just called up. The one benefit to letting Weeks play would be to determine whether or not he is protected on the 40 man roster or not over the winter, or at least thru the rule 5 draft as unlikely as that is. Pedroia having surgery, even though he's expected back by ST, you never know. Holt having the concussion issues, yeah we know he should be fine, but once again you never know. All the team has other wise is a couple of retreads and a guy in Gibson that after 6y of being in the system finally hit. Not much to bank on with him. Might be a decent idea to give weeks a look, even with Betts around.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Sept 19, 2014 10:00:32 GMT -5
4. McCann - Underperformed I am not saying the Red Sox should all together abandon free agency, but I much prefer the Napoli/Drew/Victorino/Dempster-type risks (who combined don't add up to Crawford's guarantees) over the flashy name who's likely 1. under a more intense microscope now that he's likely paid a ton 2. in a race against the physiological clock and 3. living/working in a new, unfamiliar environment which can bring a whole new subset of issues that didn't previously exist. When you include pitch-framing, a skill he was well-established as having, McCann has been worth every penny and then some. I very much agree with your general take on avoiding top-tier FA, though. The combined lesson may be that it still makes sense to look for market inequalities, even at this level of talent; McCann was a guaranteed bargain in large part because not every front office is aboard the pitch-framing train.\ Is this using a WOWY approach to adjust for pitchers and umpires? Because if it's not, those framing stats are only a little better than useless. I've seen you bring up framing many times, but I think you are severely overrating the catchers part in it, as i've seen people like Tom Tango and MGL use WOWY for framing, and the stats are much less extreme. Also, teams clearly do not pay for framing like you value it, so either it's a huge market inefficiency that no teams have picked up on(extremely unlikely) or theres something they know that we don't
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Post by jmei on Sept 19, 2014 10:16:21 GMT -5
I think both Statcorner and BP adjust based on WOWY. But it's certainly possible the adjustment isn't strong enough, or that there's still noise that can't be filtered out (i.e., certain catcher-pitcher combos are uniquely good/bad, or just small sample stuff (e.g., if a pitcher throws almost exclusively with one catcher)).
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