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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 28, 2014 13:45:28 GMT -5
McCann pinch runs for Jeter, replacing him at third base. Is this a baseball move or heavy-handed symbolism? I recently read somewhere the idea of McCann as next year's clubhouse leader. Which, if true, could be quite entertaining. McCann as the clubhouse leader, a guy who bats 235 and is obviously in decline. Yeah, Yankees are awesome lol!! What a joke they are. McCann is overrated he plays in a hitters park and has struggled the whole year.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 28, 2014 13:58:06 GMT -5
McCann pinch runs for Jeter, replacing him at third base. Is this a baseball move or heavy-handed symbolism? I recently read somewhere the idea of McCann as next year's clubhouse leader. Which, if true, could be quite entertaining. McCann as the clubhouse leader, a guy who bats 235 and is obviously in decline. Yeah, Yankees are awesome lol!! What a joke they are. McCann is overrated he plays in a hitters park and has struggled the whole year. He strikes me as a national league guy that struggled this year dealing with a new league, new team and new pitching staff that was decimated by injuries but I think McCann is primed for a break out next season.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:09:19 GMT -5
The bright side - Buchholz probably wasn't hurt all season. I can't count the DL stint when he couldn't pitch.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:11:33 GMT -5
The poll question on NESN, SMH Which one doesn't belong? Gretzky, Jeter, Jordan, Manning The worst part about this Jeter lovefest is that he's pretty unambiguously not one of the best players in baseball history. Yes, the rings are nice, but is he even one of the best half-dozen shortstops ever? I'd have Ripken, Wagner, Rodriguez, and Yount higher than him, and then guys like Ozzie Smith and Alan Trammell and Barry Larkn on the same tier. He's a great player (especially considering the postseason heroics) and a deserving Hall of Famer, but I don't know that he's an inner-circle guy or anything. I don't even consider Jeter an acceptable SS for the last 7-8 seasons. He probably should have been the one to move to 3B when Arod joined them. And if you consider that, he's ranked nowhere near as high as he is. Hell if defense doesn't matter, Papi could be a better SS than Jeter. Also of note. Jeter's career postseason wRC+ was 121. Regular season 119. You know what they say about clutch.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 28, 2014 14:17:13 GMT -5
The bright side - Buchholz probably wasn't hurt all season. I can't count the DL stint when he couldn't pitch. Something is not right with Buchholz. He is not coming over the top with the same motion as last year, pre injury. Is it a mechanical adjustment he needs to make next season or is his shoulder messed up?
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:31:55 GMT -5
The bright side - Buchholz probably wasn't hurt all season. I can't count the DL stint when he couldn't pitch. Something is not right with Buchholz. He is not coming over the top with the same motion as last year, pre injury. Is it a mechanical adjustment he needs to make next season or is his shoulder messed up? He has hit 94 in this game. His shoulder is fine. Other than May and the one game in June when he forgot how to throw strikes, he hasn't really been as bad as people think. Not as good as last year of course. I think he was unlucky this year as he was lucky last year.
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 28, 2014 14:41:54 GMT -5
Craig Breslow:
It was nice knowing you.
Sincerly,
Red Sox Nation
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:41:56 GMT -5
Breslow's option should be a pretty easy decision.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 28, 2014 14:50:31 GMT -5
Breslow really fought to get that option picked up.
I hope Ben gives some of these kids a chance to build a bullpen with. I know we can't have all of the prospects up here but we have good arms and not many can be starters and I believe are good for the pen. This offseason is gonna be very interesting.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:51:42 GMT -5
I'm sure Scott Boras is pleased how Stephen Drew is setup for a multi-year payday. Great job.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:52:48 GMT -5
Breslow really fought to get that option picked up. Breslow and Uehara are the poster children for how deep playoff runs affect pitchers the following season.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 28, 2014 14:54:54 GMT -5
Breslow's option should be a pretty easy decision. Agreed! He is miserable.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 28, 2014 14:55:20 GMT -5
Yeah but Breslow struggled against the Cards. He was good vs the Tigers. I guess he ran out of gas .
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 28, 2014 14:55:33 GMT -5
The worst part about this Jeter lovefest is that he's pretty unambiguously not one of the best players in baseball history. Yes, the rings are nice, but is he even one of the best half-dozen shortstops ever? I'd have Ripken, Wagner, Rodriguez, and Yount higher than him, and then guys like Ozzie Smith and Alan Trammell and Barry Larkn on the same tier. He's a great player (especially considering the postseason heroics) and a deserving Hall of Famer, but I don't know that he's an inner-circle guy or anything. I don't even consider Jeter an acceptable SS for the last 7-8 seasons. He probably should have been the one to move to 3B when Arod joined them. And if you consider that, he's ranked nowhere near as high as he is. Hell if defense doesn't matter, Papi could be a better SS than Jeter. Also of note. Jeter's career postseason wRC+ was 121. Regular season 119. You know what they say about clutch. Yep, Jeter was a really, really good player for a long time. But, you know, no more than that ... as jmei said, Barry Larkin was every bit Jeter's equal, better when he played (similar offense, better defense) but not quite as durable (600 fewer games played). Jeter was never the best shortstop in the game for any stretch of time. And in historical context, Arky Vaughan was better than Jeter, and who remembers Arky Vaughan? Jeter's defense went from below-average to horrid years ago, and, most damning to me, he pretty much held the Yankees hostage over ever moving him off shortstop. "He's all about winning," is the refrain to justify the extreme hagiography over the last few years, but his attitude about moving off shortstop puts the lie to that claim. Sure, he cared about winning, but only when it was on his terms, with Derek Jeter The Shortstop And Captain leading the way. He genuinely seemed like a respectful guy toward opponents, and he "played the game right" in that somewhat illogical way people in baseball define what it means to respect the history and tradition of the game. And those are both positive things! But he was masterful at managing the media, and the combination of that and his place in the media center of the country gave him a reputation that really far exceeded his actual accomplishments. Honestly, I'm glad he's done.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 14:57:45 GMT -5
Wow, great job Red Sox on the sound for the 7th inning stretch. Between the park and NESN, they seem to be starting the end of season party a bit early.
Bernie Williams is a talented man.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 28, 2014 14:58:06 GMT -5
Something is not right with Buchholz. He is not coming over the top with the same motion as last year, pre injury. Is it a mechanical adjustment he needs to make next season or is his shoulder messed up? He has hit 94 in this game. His shoulder is fine. Other than May and the one game in June when he forgot how to throw strikes, he hasn't really been as bad as people think. Not as good as last year of course. I think he was unlucky this year as he was lucky last year. I don 't know. This year His ball is flat and very hittable where last year it moved beautifully and left hitters baffled. I think it is because he is not coming over the top with his delivery like last year.
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 28, 2014 14:58:25 GMT -5
Bernie Williams is pretty good on the guitar. Impressed.
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Post by soxcentral on Sept 28, 2014 15:32:38 GMT -5
The Jeter love is definitely a bit over the top, but I think it's far bigger than just being one of the best SS's ever. The game seriously lacked heroes over the last 10+ years, and he is one of the very few players who played the game with a blend of class , dignity and success for the last 2 decades. I think people are just starving for a modern day legend, something Bonds, Clemens, McGwire and that group didn't provide
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Post by Gwell55 on Sept 28, 2014 15:33:43 GMT -5
Breslow really fought to get that option picked up. I hope Ben gives some of these kids a chance to build a bullpen with. I know we can't have all of the prospects up here but we have good arms and not many can be starters and I believe are good for the pen. This offseason is gonna be very interesting. Layne should get the Breslow slot. He has already looked better than Breslow this year and probably enough innings to evaluate between here and SD in '13 should give him the go ahead for next spring.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 15:37:29 GMT -5
What the hell is playing with class anyway? Sending thank you baskets? Doesn't most players play with class when it gets right down to it?
Jeter was no Mariano Rivera, who used to secretly without publicity visit kids in hospitals on the road all the time.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 15:40:06 GMT -5
Britton will be a tough decision. Out of options and he didn't look nearly as bad as his AAA #'s this year once he came up.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 28, 2014 15:55:41 GMT -5
And the season is mercifully over.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 28, 2014 16:02:43 GMT -5
And the season is mercifully over. RIP, 2014 ... late and unlamented
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 28, 2014 16:12:37 GMT -5
You guys were still paying attention? Interesting.
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 28, 2014 16:35:46 GMT -5
2015 will be our year! i like our potential. Need SP and bullpen help.
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