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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 10, 2014 23:41:32 GMT -5
As I'm sure most of you know, a group of minor league free agents was released today from the Red Sox organization, and while many of them are of little consequence, I was interested in some of the guys who were on the list. I know that the Sox resigned Mike Brenly, Miguel Celestino, and Matt Spring, but I was wondering if you guys think they should re-sign any of the others. I for one would like to see Ryan Verdugo back in Pawtucket, I saw him there and liked what I saw and he did well, even in a SSS. I also liked Dent and Gibson but realize there is likely not enough room for them in the system. Another person I would like to see back with the Sox was Carson Blair, he seemed to have a little bit of upside and I think he would be a better starting catcher at Pawtucket than either Brenly or Spring. What are your guys thoughts?
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Post by mgoetze on Nov 11, 2014 4:19:56 GMT -5
Starting catcher at Pawtucket? Are you one of those guys who wants to move Swihart to left field?
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 11, 2014 8:03:38 GMT -5
I think he means Portland......and yes, I would love to see what Blair can do as the starting catcher in Portland and if he can make a major league career for himself.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 11, 2014 8:47:51 GMT -5
While it'd be nice to have him back, it might make sense for Blair to look out for an organization that doesn't have two excellent catchers ahead of him. Like moonstone pointed out, there probably would be a chance for Blair to get some quality playing time at Portland if he did come back, and it's possible that he could use that to catch the eye of someone for 2016. But opportunities for advancement in 2015 would be limited.
So yeah, long story short: it would make sense for the Sox try to re-sign Blair, but it's up to Blair to decide whether the organization is a fit.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 11, 2014 9:14:30 GMT -5
On the other hand, if at some point down the road, the Sox decide to trade one of their tandem, Blair could find himself in a nice situation. That's next year's stuff but he clearly isn't major league ready this year anyways.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 11, 2014 9:21:38 GMT -5
On the other hand, if at some point down the road, the Sox decide to trade one of their tandem, Blair could find himself in a nice situation. That's next year's stuff but he clearly isn't major league ready this year anyways. Possibly. The Red Sox have historically preferred veteran backup catchers, but they did break from that in the late 90's when they worked in Varitek as Hatteberg's backup, so it wouldn't be unprecedented. I'm guessing Blair will get at least a few offers though, so I couldn't fault him for seeing the best opportunity.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 11, 2014 9:46:43 GMT -5
Yeah I did mean Portland. And I was thinking maybe if Blair established himself as a prospect he could even become a trade chip down the road.
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 12, 2014 10:31:29 GMT -5
Yeah I did mean Portland. And I was thinking maybe if Blair established himself as a prospect he could even become a trade chip down the road. For his sake, I hope he does resign here and continues the work he's been doing with the Red Sox staff. The list of players drafted in 2008 ahead of him by the Sox who aren't even playing professional baseball anymore is long. It's a credit to him that we are even discussing him given his history prior to this year. With that history, lost of guys would have quit. I know I would have.
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Post by michaelgelbwasser on Nov 14, 2014 14:40:03 GMT -5
A's sign Blair, per Matt Eddy (Tweet).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 14, 2014 16:32:11 GMT -5
A's sign Blair, per Matt Eddy (Tweet). Can someone go to Eric's place and check on him? Minor league deal, as most expected. No word on NRI that I can find.
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 14, 2014 17:06:11 GMT -5
A's sign Blair, per Matt Eddy (Tweet). Can someone go to Eric's place and check on him? Minor league deal, as most expected. No word on NRI that I can find. Scooped up almost instantly by the team that made famous the strategy of identifying players who are undervalued. And there have been articles about some teams (most notably the Yankees) exploiting mlfa deals as a market inefficiency, so I'm going to guess that he got a nicer-than-average deal. I'm sad to see him leave, but he's found a good home. As much as I wanted to keep him, we're already in the position of leaving Garcia, Kurcz, Ramirez, and a bunch of others subject to the Rule 5. And it's made me curious as to how many players who make MLB after being mlfa's were let go only because there was no room to select them to the 40-man. He's not ready for a serious NRI, just the sort where he's an extra needed catcher.
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Post by GyIantosca on Nov 14, 2014 20:50:43 GMT -5
The A's are the Red Sox west. Use to be the Pirates also but they cooled down lately. Beane must have an informant working for the Sox.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 14, 2014 22:24:42 GMT -5
Anyone know who the Portland catchers will be next year or have any idea? Still hard to believe their going with either Spring/Brenly over Blair.
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Post by jmei on Nov 14, 2014 22:33:23 GMT -5
Anyone know who the Portland catchers will be next year or have any idea? Still hard to believe their going with either Spring/Brenly over Blair. The Red Sox almost certainly offered Blair a minor league deal and wanted him back for Portland this year. But he has a say in where he goes, too, and the situation in Oakland seems much more amenable to him getting a major-league chance than the one in Boston.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 15, 2014 10:27:24 GMT -5
So you're trying to tell me minor-leaguers are people too and capable of making their own decisions? I don't know man that sounds pretty crazy
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Post by dominicansoxfan on Nov 19, 2014 12:05:55 GMT -5
Derrick Gibson reportedly signed with the Orioles.
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 21, 2014 0:56:18 GMT -5
Some familiar names (probably incomplete) ...
David Aardsma, StL Michael Almanzar, Bal -> Bal Lars Anderson, ChN Andrew Bailey, NYA Pedro Beato, Atl Engel Beltre, Tex Ronald Bermudez, Bal Rafael Betancourt, Col Dusty Brown, Cle Cesar Cabral, NYA Mike Carp, Tex Chih-Hsien Chiang, Bal Pedro Ciriaco, KC -> Atl Caleb Clay, LAA Robert Coello, Bal Jose De La Torre, Mil Argenis Diaz, Ari Jonathan Diaz, Tor -> Tor Terry Doyle, Atl Stephen Fife, LAN Justin Germano, LAN Jeremy Hermida, Mil -> Mil Brock Huntzinger, Bal Ryan Kalish, ChN Andy LaRoche, Tor Brent Lillibridge, Tex Mitch Maier, KC Andy Marte, Ari -> Korea Chris McGuiness, Pit Manny Ramirez, ChN Ramon Ramirez, Bal Dustin Richardson, LAA Juan Rodriguez, LAN Niuman Romero, Bal Angel Sanchez, LAN Jerry Sands, TB Miguel Socolovich, NYN -> StL Nate Spears, Phi Zach Stewart, Atl Oscar Tejeda, Was
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Nov 21, 2014 1:46:03 GMT -5
Scooped up almost instantly by the team that made famous the strategy of identifying players who are undervalued. ... And it's made me curious as to how many players who make MLB after being mlfa's were let go only because there was no room to select them to the 40-man.
Jose Quintana: NYY ---> CHW Miguel Gonzalez BOS ---> BAL (released before free agency, unnecessarily)
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 21, 2014 8:51:40 GMT -5
Andrew Bailey has been re-signed by the Yankees to a minor league deal.
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Post by michael on Nov 21, 2014 16:44:40 GMT -5
. The Red Sox have historically preferred veteran backup catchers, but they did break from that in the late 90's when they worked in Varitek as Hatteberg's backup, so it wouldn't be unprecedented. I'm guessing Blair will get at least a few offers though, so I couldn't fault him for seeing the best opportunity.[/quote]
IIRC Jim Leyritz was with the Sox when Tek came up. He didn't finish the season but was purportedly the veteran RH hitting side of a possible platoon
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 22, 2014 0:36:28 GMT -5
Ryan Verdugo to the A's Ivan De Jesus to the Reds Heiker Meneses to the Twins
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 23, 2014 22:58:19 GMT -5
We're one of just 3 teams that have not yet announced any signings. Others are the Astros and Cubs.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 24, 2014 6:17:25 GMT -5
We're one of just 3 teams that have not yet announced any signings. Others are the Astros and Cubs. Why don't Spring and Brenly count?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 24, 2014 7:33:40 GMT -5
Sad to see Heiker gone. I always hoped he'd end up as a Sox minor league coach. In terms of org guys, he'll be missed.
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Post by garnotte12 on Nov 28, 2014 3:18:58 GMT -5
We're one of just 3 teams that have not yet announced any signings. Others are the Astros and Cubs. Why don't Spring and Brenly count? why sign both Brenly and Spring instead of Blair? they are 30 or so and no projection. I know, they are there for dept...but still. At least, Blair has projection...There are so many catcher in the system...i thought it was time to let go Brenly and Spring and move up some from lower minors. in 2014, just in GCL and Lowell, there were 9 catchers at some point!!!
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