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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 20, 2014 16:01:01 GMT -5
Burke Badenhop made more last year in his final year of arbitration. I mean... not sure how you can be upset by this.
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Post by nomar on Dec 20, 2014 16:44:15 GMT -5
Burke Badenhop made more last year in his final year of arbitration. I mean... not sure how you can be upset by this. ANGER
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Post by larrycook on Dec 20, 2014 17:12:39 GMT -5
Burke Badenhop made more last year in his final year of arbitration. I mean... not sure how you can be upset by this. Based on his numbers last season, badenhop should be expecting a decent bump for 2015. Clearly varvaro was a cheaper alternative with similar performance. Not sure that we can say Breslow's performance merited a return even at 2 mm. Seems to me that if Britton has a good camp, he could beat out Breslow for a lefty reliever spot.
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Post by danr on Dec 20, 2014 17:21:03 GMT -5
I read a comment by Cherington somewhere in which he said that Breslow was a good candidate to have a bounce-back year for some team next year. I guess they decided to be that team. Breslow is very well-liked and a great person. Even though he hasn't made the really big bucks, he created and partially funded a charity - www.strike3foundation.org/ - to help kids with cancer.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 20, 2014 20:01:21 GMT -5
Am I missing something? Drake Britton was terrible last year...in AAA.
Why did people actually want to see him get the spot?
Not saying I wanted Breslow back, just confused as to why people actually wanted Britton.
Only thing I can say about this move is, good think relief pitching is so damn volatile.
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Post by redsoxnh2014 on Dec 20, 2014 21:10:17 GMT -5
I like is. Low-cost, low-risk with a high potential reward
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Post by bosox on Dec 21, 2014 0:44:30 GMT -5
“@bradfo: Also of note regarding Breslow deal: no incentives; Red Sox likely won’t announce until after Dec. 28 due to 40 man moves” That kind of says the Sox are working on something. Strange that they specified a date. LOL, how do you find out if the Mariners signed any draftees on June 27th ? There's two that signed on June 27th. A 20th rounder out of Mississippi - Hawtin Buchanan and a 15th rounder out of Texas - Lukas Schiraldi. Ironically, Calvin Schiraldi's son. I believe both had pitched in the Cape Cod League. Here's a link to a list of the Mariner's draft with signing dates. Seattle Draft
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 21, 2014 0:47:24 GMT -5
Am I missing something? Drake Britton was terrible last year...in AAA. Why did people actually want to see him get the spot? Not saying I wanted Breslow back, just confused as to why people actually wanted Britton. Only thing I can say about this move is, good think relief pitching is so damn volatile. Mainly because Britton under-performed his talents for most of the year then turned it on near the end. He was a pretty damn good pitcher at the end. Like WMB, there's reason for hope because the tools are there. Worst case, he doesn't do well and we cut him. Much more to gain than to lose. That kind of says the Sox are working on something. Strange that they specified a date. LOL, how do you find out if the Mariners signed any draftees on June 27th ? There's two that signed on June 27th. A 20th rounder out of Mississippi - Hawtin Buchanan and a 15th rounder out of Texas - Lukas Schiraldi. Ironically, Calvin Schiraldi's son. I believe both had pitched in the Cape Cod League. Here's a link to a list of the Mariner's draft with signing dates. Seattle DraftMy LOL, was meant to be somewhat of a joke and that there could be a ton of possibilities (thinking Craig) and neither of those two prospects seem like likely targets. There are several teams, Brewers for example, that have shown interest and several possibilities for delaying the announcement other than a pre-planned trade of Craig. It just seemed odd that the tweet about the announcement was given a specific date and the date was 9 days away. Bottom line, the Red Sox expect to have a roster spot on Dec 28th to add Breslow.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 21, 2014 1:23:49 GMT -5
It's entirely possible that "after Dec. 28th" is another way of saying "after everyone is back in the office after the holiday."
I'm assuming the roster spot may come from an Allen Craig trade.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 21, 2014 2:12:00 GMT -5
It's entirely possible that "after Dec. 28th" is another way of saying "after everyone is back in the office after the holiday." I'm assuming the roster spot may come from an Allen Craig trade. Or that Breslow himself isn't available until the 28th. Bottom line though is that something will happen before the 28th, Craig is certainly a possibility but that would mean trading him for a non 40 man prospect or doing a twofer. There are still some pitchers out there whose names have been linked to trade speculation that would represent an upgrade to our staff on at least a one year basis. Iwakuma, for example.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 30, 2014 20:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 2, 2015 0:11:19 GMT -5
Breslow's physical is scheduled for Monday. Decision time looming.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 5, 2015 17:27:38 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs: craig breslow $2M deal for 2015 with red sox official
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Post by artfuldodger on Jan 5, 2015 19:35:24 GMT -5
Has there been an announced corresponding move?
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jan 6, 2015 11:04:41 GMT -5
C'mon, what's up, Red Sox? America *demands* to know the fate of Tommy Layne and Drake Britton!!
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 6, 2015 11:22:01 GMT -5
I'm thinking that if it was a DFA, we'd know by now.
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Post by jmei on Jan 6, 2015 11:42:06 GMT -5
They do sneaky DFAs all the time (I think Herrera was one?). I think it was a DFA that they're trying to sneak through-- if Breslow was officially signed, they must have opened up a spot already, and a DFA can do that on the low-down, while a trade would have had to be announced by now. Of course, it's also possible that they're working on something and just haven't officially signed Breslow yet.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 6, 2015 11:48:48 GMT -5
I'm guessing that it hasn't been transmitted to MLB yet, there's no MLB announcement of the signing (I checked). As far as I know, you can't "sneak' a DFA through because you can't be over 40 officially in transactions even for a few minutes. I'd guess that any transaction is sent to all other 29 teams as soon as it happens. The public might not know but you have to figure that the other teams know.
Sneaking somebody through usually refers to DFAing somebody when there are a bunch of other transactions going on throughout baseball like just before the 40 man rosters are set. That can't be the case here.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jan 6, 2015 12:20:40 GMT -5
Maybe they tried to sneak it through over the holidays?
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Post by jmei on Jan 6, 2015 13:15:54 GMT -5
By sneaky DFA I just meant a DFA that wasn't announced publicly in the media. Yes, each of the teams get a daily list of players who hit the waiver wire, so it's not like they can pull a fast one on the other teams, but my point is that they could have DFAed someone already and just not had it leak to the media.
Remember, once a team DFAs a player, he's immediately removed from the 40-man, but they have seven days to put him on waivers or ten days to either trade him or return him to the 40-man roster. It's very possible that they've DFAed someone already and are now trying to trade him in that ten day window (similar to how the Red Sox acquired Varvaro and Spruill) or are just waiting some of the seven days they have before they have to put him on waivers.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 6, 2015 19:24:39 GMT -5
I know you all have wanted to know who will be DFA'd Briiton or Layne. Who is smarter myself or Jmei?
The answer is........
Neither of us....if you had Dan Butler in the death pool YOU WIN!!!!!!!!
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Post by bosox on Jan 6, 2015 20:25:39 GMT -5
As I mentioned earlier, I think Butler is the better choice. Is there a link to the DFA of Butler?
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Post by jmei on Jan 6, 2015 20:56:32 GMT -5
According to this guy, not confirmed elsewhere:
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 6, 2015 21:03:07 GMT -5
Strange, no tweets mention it @danbutler_12
EDIT Didn't see above post. If you go to that guys page, he seems to specialize in that kind of stuff.
I doubt if Butler will clear waivers so Vazquez and Hanigan will need to stay healthy or we would be risking super-two status for Swihart..
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 6, 2015 21:19:49 GMT -5
If the Butler thing is true, it's more likely that either they saw enough in Luke Montz's workout to be confident that he's healthy enough to come up in case of an injury. According to Rob Bradford, Montz got an invitation to Spring Training. Now, it is true that the Red Sox (and most teams) typically invite a non-40 man catcher to spring training just to take some of the load off, so I didn't think much of it when I heard it reported, but it would add up.
Also, the Varvaro trade might be a good reference here. The Red Sox may have been working on a couple possible Butler trades in the last week to clear the spot for Breslow, and are designating him for assignment almost as a way to expedite the process.
Or, it could be untrue. I still haven't seen it yet anywhere else.
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