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Post by jimed14 on Aug 22, 2015 13:00:17 GMT -5
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Post by thursty on Aug 24, 2015 8:48:29 GMT -5
Did y'all see what the Blue Jays did in Anaheim this weekend? Just absolutely crushed them, 36 runs in a 3-game sweep. It's not like the Jays' starters pitched well either, but it just doesn't matter
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 24, 2015 11:06:17 GMT -5
www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/8/21/9187405/the-longest-tenured-lifer-for-every-mlb-club-in-a-post-utley-tradeFound this interesting. The longest-tenured "lifer" with each team (note: not longest-tenured player - Ortiz for the Sox - but longest-tenured player who has played for only 1 MLB team). I was surprised at the number of teams that have had so much turnover that they have nobody prior to 2010. As one of the people who updates our 40-man page, I'm often struck by the fact that, say, Steven Wright is the sixth-most-tenured 40-man player on the club. However, this list shows me that may not be as weird as I think it is. Like they say, the only constant is change.
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Post by p23w on Aug 24, 2015 12:41:00 GMT -5
www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/8/21/9187405/the-longest-tenured-lifer-for-every-mlb-club-in-a-post-utley-tradeFound this interesting. The longest-tenured "lifer" with each team (note: not longest-tenured player - Ortiz for the Sox - but longest-tenured player who has played for only 1 MLB team). I was surprised at the number of teams that have had so much turnover that they have nobody prior to 2010. As one of the people who updates our 40-man page, I'm often struck by the fact that, say, Steven Wright is the sixth-most-tenured 40-man player on the club. However, this list shows me that may not be as weird as I think it is. Like they say, the only constant is change. Interesting. Gotta' believe, though, that this is about MLB Labor Laws, specifically free agency, moreso than the entropy of "change".
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 24, 2015 14:46:52 GMT -5
For those who mocked the cubs for signing Lester, and those who compared him to Clay B earlier this year. He is in the middle of a pitching duel in his 25th straight start. The end of his contract may end bad but the Sox would be better with him on the team. Probably in contention if they signed him and extended Lackey. Spilt milk, sure. But it's true.
Lester back out for the 8th. I'll take this guy any day.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 24, 2015 15:11:37 GMT -5
Lester batting for himself in the 8th. He's coming out for the ninth.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 24, 2015 15:34:38 GMT -5
They got Lester with 2 outs in the 9th, Tied ball game.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 24, 2015 15:50:45 GMT -5
Bryant hits a walk off homer, Cubs win. Lester gets a 8.2 ND. One of the best games I've seen all year.
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Post by rafael on Aug 24, 2015 17:18:47 GMT -5
Buchholz fWAR is higher than Lester's this season.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Aug 24, 2015 18:28:47 GMT -5
#fWARforpitchersisgarbage
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Post by ethanbein on Aug 24, 2015 18:38:25 GMT -5
#fWARforpitchersisgarbage His bWAR is almost a win higher, too. #pitchingintheNLiseasy
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 24, 2015 19:22:10 GMT -5
#fWARforpitchersisgarbage It's a little better than it was last year.
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Post by joshv02 on Aug 25, 2015 7:04:52 GMT -5
#fWARforpitchersisgarbage #whyisthat ? For starters, it's basically varient of fip x ip, no? Why would that be"garbage"?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Aug 29, 2015 8:18:40 GMT -5
#fWARforpitchersisgarbage #whyisthat ? For starters, it's basically varient of fip x ip, no? Why would that be"garbage"? I suppose garbage is a little strong, because I do think FIP and xFIP are useful stats for understanding a pitchers likely true talent level. I just feel by definition WAR is designed to be an all encompassing stat for a players value and it does a much worse job of that for pitchers than it does for hitters. When I see a position players fWAR I feel it does a very good job of representing his actual value. When a pitchers WAR is sited I generally feel the need to look closer at the overall line and often come to the determination it doesn't line up with what I believe is their true value.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 29, 2015 15:08:36 GMT -5
“@bnicholsonsmith: #BlueJays have now scored 707 runs, which is more than 23 teams scored during entire 2014 season.”
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 29, 2015 20:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 29, 2015 21:11:53 GMT -5
And do Elias and Baseball-Reference have a big fight about it in like 2135?
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Post by thursty on Aug 30, 2015 6:04:28 GMT -5
Edwin Encarnacion had 20 RBI this *week* I picked Toronto to win the AL East pre-season; I predict they'll win the pennant and embarrass some teams in the playoffs
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 30, 2015 21:38:39 GMT -5
I know last year in the playoffs we talked about how John Kruk is pretty good in the booth. Now that he's back calling a game without Curt Schilling I'd like to reiterate that. Mendoza has been really good tonight, but the Sunday Night Baseball Crew should be Shulman, Kruk, and anyone who isn't Schilling or Joe Morgan.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 30, 2015 22:00:10 GMT -5
LOL Dodgers.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Aug 30, 2015 22:32:21 GMT -5
Edwin Encarnacion had 20 RBI this *week* I picked Toronto to win the AL East pre-season; I predict they'll win the pennant and embarrass some teams in the playoffs If someone knocks out KC first, I agree, as I think Toronto would crush Houston with their lefty starters or the MFY, who just are overrated, but I think KC is a terrible matchup for Toronto. Toronto's offense is good against eighties, but otherworldly against lefties, and KC really only has righty starters in their playoff rotation, and they have like 4 ace righty relievers.
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Post by joshv02 on Aug 31, 2015 7:34:36 GMT -5
Cubans lack baseball instincts.
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Post by joshv02 on Aug 31, 2015 8:03:31 GMT -5
#whyisthat ? For starters, it's basically varient of fip x ip, no? Why would that be"garbage"? I suppose garbage is a little strong, because I do think FIP and xFIP are useful stats for understanding a pitchers likely true talent level. I just feel by definition WAR is designed to be an all encompassing stat for a players value and it does a much worse job of that for pitchers than it does for hitters. When I see a position players fWAR I feel it does a very good job of representing his actual value. When a pitchers WAR is sited I generally feel the need to look closer at the overall line and often come to the determination it doesn't line up with what I believe is their true value. This is where I used to sit, but since I've basically come to this view: (1) In any given small sample, pitchers have varying degrees of control over allowing more/less hits than what an average MLB pitcher allows. Similarly, in any given small sample, pitchers have varying degrees on control over the ordering of hits allowed - i.e., clustering hits. Eric likes to call something similar to this "karma." (2) As a general rule, pitchers over larger sample sizes all trend towards (for multiple reasons - survivorship bias, etc.) MLB averages for BABIP and LOB%/cluster. At the end of a career, we may be able to find outliers, but it is difficult to determine that inside a career. (3) In any given small sample, luck (i.e., forces outside of the pitcher's control) greatly effects allowing more/less hits than what an average MLB pitcher allows. Similarly, in any given small sample, pitcck (i.e., forces outside of the pitcher's control) greatly effects the ordering of hits allowed - i.e., clustering hits. Eric likes to call something similar to this "luck." (4) In any given small sample, we don't know if we are witnessing karma or luck. So, what fWAR does for me is tells me the baseline. I then can adjust it as I think is accurate given other factors. It does not, however, make my life easy and give me a simple answer. And I'm OK with that. :2cents:
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 31, 2015 9:01:43 GMT -5
Edwin Encarnacion had 20 RBI this *week* I picked Toronto to win the AL East pre-season; I predict they'll win the pennant and embarrass some teams in the playoffs If someone knocks out KC first, I agree, as I think Toronto would crush Houston with their lefty starters or the MFY, who just are overrated, but I think KC is a terrible matchup for Toronto. Toronto's offense is good against eighties, but otherworldly against lefties, and KC really only has righty starters in their playoff rotation, and they have like 4 ace righty relievers. I'd think any offense would be good against pitchers in their eighties.
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Post by danr on Aug 31, 2015 23:22:34 GMT -5
Johnny Gomes gets to play in the post-season again. KC just acquired him from Atlanta.
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