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Sox considering New Contract For Mookie Betts
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 20, 2015 3:21:04 GMT -5
“I do think young players, especially in this environment, young position players deserve the benefit of some patience and some understanding,” Epstein said. “Because if you look at the top 100 prospects in baseball last year, of all the position players, three position players performed. One was Abreu (Jose Abreu of the White Sox), who was basically a pro in Cuba and a little bit older. One was George Springer who’s older than (Starlin) Castro and (Anthony) Rizzo, and one was Mookie Betts, who we drafted him in Boston, like from another planet with his hand eye coordination and everything. No one else performed in that whole group.blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2015/03/19/astros-an-undercurrent-as-theo-epstein-and-billy-beane-discuss-young-players-and-rebuilding/Theo must have been reading our Mookie thread last year.
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Post by raftsox on Mar 20, 2015 10:48:44 GMT -5
There was some hopeful talk around here (and perhaps elsewhere) about Xander switching representatives to Beverly Hills Sports Council where his brother, Jair, is an agent-in-training. That may be what you're thinking of Norm.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 20, 2015 11:15:44 GMT -5
There was some hopeful talk around here (and perhaps elsewhere) about Xander switching representatives to Beverly Hills Sports Council where his brother, Jair, is an agent-in-training. That may be what you're thinking of Norm. We're going to have to wait until he's fully trained.
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Post by alnipper on Mar 20, 2015 11:19:19 GMT -5
I would sign Mookie to an 8 year 65 million deal with two years of team options of 20 million each. Part of Mookies value is that he is playing at league minimum.
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Post by azblue on Mar 20, 2015 13:39:00 GMT -5
The initial post misstates the situation. No one says or hints that there have been any communications on this topic.
Rob Bradford's article on WEEI.com resulted in the link abov and there is nothing in the article other than Bradford's opinion that Boston should consider it that relates to a possible extension.
Bradford's comment: "FORT MYERS, Fla. -- First off, Mookie Betts and the Red Sox haven't yet talked about a contract extension. "No," said the Sox outfielder when asked if there had been any discussions. "I haven't done anything for that." But just because they haven't gone down that road doesn't mean they haven't thought about it. And they should."
Wouldn't you expect both sides to wait until Mookie has at least one full season in the majors under his belt before there would be serious discussions about an extension?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Mar 20, 2015 13:52:44 GMT -5
The initial post misstates the situation. No one says or hints that there have been any communications on this topic. Rob Bradford's article on WEEI.com resulted in the link abov and there is nothing in the article other than Bradford's opinion that Boston should consider it that relates to a possible extension. Bradford's comment: "FORT MYERS, Fla. -- First off, Mookie Betts and the Red Sox haven't yet talked about a contract extension. "No," said the Sox outfielder when asked if there had been any discussions. "I haven't done anything for that." But just because they haven't gone down that road doesn't mean they haven't thought about it. And they should." Wouldn't you expect both sides to wait until Mookie has at least one full season in the majors under his belt before there would be serious discussions about an extension? the initial post is a direct copy and paste of a mlbtraderumors post, not speculation on my behalf. Also, it says considering, which cannot be disproved.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 20, 2015 14:01:25 GMT -5
The initial post misstates the situation. No one says or hints that there have been any communications on this topic. Rob Bradford's article on WEEI.com resulted in the link abov and there is nothing in the article other than Bradford's opinion that Boston should consider it that relates to a possible extension. Bradford's comment: "FORT MYERS, Fla. -- First off, Mookie Betts and the Red Sox haven't yet talked about a contract extension. "No," said the Sox outfielder when asked if there had been any discussions. "I haven't done anything for that." But just because they haven't gone down that road doesn't mean they haven't thought about it. And they should." Wouldn't you expect both sides to wait until Mookie has at least one full season in the majors under his belt before there would be serious discussions about an extension? the initial post is a direct copy and paste of a mlbtraderumors post, not speculation on my behalf. Also, it says considering, which cannot be disproved. They also probably consider everything that is realistically possible about everyone, which makes it to be making something out of nothing. I'm not criticizing you, but the article. Until the two sides talk, nothing has actually happened.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Mar 20, 2015 14:08:02 GMT -5
The initial post misstates the situation. No one says or hints that there have been any communications on this topic. Rob Bradford's article on WEEI.com resulted in the link abov and there is nothing in the article other than Bradford's opinion that Boston should consider it that relates to a possible extension. Bradford's comment: "FORT MYERS, Fla. -- First off, Mookie Betts and the Red Sox haven't yet talked about a contract extension. "No," said the Sox outfielder when asked if there had been any discussions. "I haven't done anything for that." But just because they haven't gone down that road doesn't mean they haven't thought about it. And they should." Wouldn't you expect both sides to wait until Mookie has at least one full season in the majors under his belt before there would be serious discussions about an extension? the initial post is a direct copy and paste of a mlbtraderumors post, not speculation on my behalf. Also, it says considering, which cannot be disproved. This is why we shouldn't be citing mlbtraderumors. Nice site for easy consolidation of news, but your much better off citing the original article they are referencing.
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Post by Smittyw on Mar 20, 2015 14:24:13 GMT -5
The initial post misstates the situation. No one says or hints that there have been any communications on this topic. Rob Bradford's article on WEEI.com resulted in the link abov and there is nothing in the article other than Bradford's opinion that Boston should consider it that relates to a possible extension. Bradford's comment: "FORT MYERS, Fla. -- First off, Mookie Betts and the Red Sox haven't yet talked about a contract extension. "No," said the Sox outfielder when asked if there had been any discussions. "I haven't done anything for that." But just because they haven't gone down that road doesn't mean they haven't thought about it. And they should." Wouldn't you expect both sides to wait until Mookie has at least one full season in the majors under his belt before there would be serious discussions about an extension? The original article states "According to a major league source, the Red Sox have at least internally discussed the possibility of exploring an extension with Betts some time in the semi-near future" ...which really means nothing (what is the "semi-near future"?), but it does go beyond Bradford's opinion.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 22, 2015 9:15:21 GMT -5
I would sign Mookie to an 8 year 65 million deal with two years of team options of 20 million each. Part of Mookies value is that he is playing at league minimum. I think that's a perfect plan. Team options are still likely to be team-friendly if exercised. Relatively low overall cost, keep costs low early, good bet on a young player who genuinely looks the part of a superstar. He's about as low-risk as I've seen in ten years with the exception of Trout. His BB/K ratio, ISO, speed, ability to square up, pitch selection, and adaptability are all well above average to stupid good. His performance to date screams perennial .320/.420/.450 to me...all the more valuable with the steals, defensive versatility, and the fact that K rates are skyrocketing these days. Dropping a few extra dollars early gives him security and confidence, and it keeps him in a Sox uniform with relatively low, predictable salaries.
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Post by mgoetze on Mar 22, 2015 18:08:54 GMT -5
Since this is absolutely non-news, I suggest this thread be closed. Reopen it when negotiations actually happen.
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Post by templeusox on Mar 22, 2015 19:27:33 GMT -5
Since this is absolutely non-news, I suggest this thread be closed. Reopen it when negotiations actually happen. I think it's legitimate. Why don't you ignore the thread if you aren't interested in the content?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Mar 22, 2015 23:53:04 GMT -5
Since this is absolutely non-news, I suggest this thread be closed. Reopen it when negotiations actually happen. 75% of the topics in the forum are pure speculation, why not have some fun with this?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 23, 2015 16:14:35 GMT -5
Since this is absolutely non-news, I suggest this thread be closed. Reopen it when negotiations actually happen. Please leave the moderating to the moderators. Thanks!
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Post by burythehammer on Mar 24, 2015 6:22:43 GMT -5
There was some hopeful talk around here (and perhaps elsewhere) about Xander switching representatives to Beverly Hills Sports Council where his brother, Jair, is an agent-in-training. That may be what you're thinking of Norm. Hey, don't rain on my parade. There's still time
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Post by azblue on Mar 24, 2015 12:20:15 GMT -5
It's one thing for Bradford to suggest that it is not too soon for the Red Sox to entertain the idea of extending Mookie, but he simply made this up based on his belief that "they must have discussed this." He has no idea what has been discussed inside the Fenway offices and they certainly are not going to leak anything to him.
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Post by jclmontana on Mar 24, 2015 12:39:01 GMT -5
It's one thing for Bradford to suggest that it is not too soon for the Red Sox to entertain the idea of extending Mookie, but he simply made this up based on his belief that "they must have discussed this." He has no idea what has been discussed inside the Fenway offices and they certainly are not going to leak anything to him. Why would they not leak to Bradford? They certainly seem to leak to others, and it is a pretty common tactic across the sports world. This is news, but in a meta sense. It is news because either 1.) Bradford made stuff up, or 2.) the front office really is thinking about extending Betts and may move in that direction, and/or 3.) They intentionally leaked this information for some reason. I do not think anything about the Red Sox shows up in the Globe, WEEI, NESN, PROJO, or most other outlets with locker-room access without the assent of the front office. The fact that this story is out there means something, but not necessarily that Betts will actually be extended.
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