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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 16, 2015 13:09:13 GMT -5
Yeah, the guy got all three winning hits including the WS clincher. That has to cut some ice in the clubhouse. He's gritty to a fault, and he'll probably still want to get at bats even if they have to prop him up at the plate. The team has to get a bead on how he plays, and seven games isn't enough to do that yet, but as jmei says he might very well make the contract value.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 16, 2015 13:33:33 GMT -5
My favorite Shane Victorino moment will always be the grand slam in game 6 of ALCS (Me being there was a big part of it). He was down 2 strikes and we didn't think he had a chance against a right handed breaking ball. It didn't look like anything special off the bat, we weren't sure if it was foul or a pop up or a wall ball, Fenway held it's breath while the ball was in the air then erupted into madness once it cleared the monster. With 2 innings left and Tazawa and Uehara in the pen the 3 run lead felt like 100. It was at that point everyone in Boston knew we were going to the world series. Great video compilation of fan videos of the grand slam. nesn.com/2013/11/shane-victorinos-alcs-grand-slam-captured-in-video-composed-entirely-of-fan-submitted-footage-video/
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 16, 2015 14:24:33 GMT -5
I've said this before, but consider how patient and loyal fans would be if Victorino had his 2013 season on another team and we signed him last year. I know that isn't really fair, but then again, you shouldn't be making decisions in 2015 based on what someone did in 2013 either. I'd prefer he get the Johnny Gomes role (strict platoon, not Farrell's definition) if he has to remain.
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Post by joshv02 on Apr 17, 2015 5:11:25 GMT -5
Right but that is the point, isn't it? You spread out the 39 million over the years, but ask that matters is getting at least 39 million of value overall not 13 per year. So if you agree that he earned the contract, it wasn't an albatross/bad signing/etc. just because in subsequent years he did not continue to earn 13 a year, right?
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Post by okin15 on Apr 17, 2015 10:28:17 GMT -5
Right but that is the point, isn't it? You spread out the 39 million over the years, but ask that matters is getting at least 39 million of value overall not 13 per year. So if you agree that he earned the contract, it wasn't an albatross/bad signing/etc. just because in subsequent years he did not continue to earn 13 a year, right? On the other hand, once you've sunk that cost, you don't really want to add an opportunity cost by not playing a better player. I think there's still some leeway on that, but hoping he starts hitting in the next few weeks.
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Post by danr on Apr 17, 2015 12:23:18 GMT -5
I figure that Victorino has until around the end of the month to start hitting. I can't see the Sox going much longer than that, especially if JBJ continues to mash at Pawtucket, or if Castillo recovers quickly from his injury and resumes hitting well.
There would be no loss of fielding in RF with JBJ and the team would be stronger and better balanced with him in the lineup hitting decently.
It is going to be interesting to see if Margot is this year's Mookie Betts. He certainly has started that way.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 17, 2015 13:08:17 GMT -5
I figure that Victorino has until around the end of the month to start hitting. I figure that the Red Sox front office is never going to make decisions based on 30 PA samples.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2015 13:26:51 GMT -5
I figure that Victorino has until around the end of the month to start hitting. I figure that the Red Sox front office is never going to make decisions based on 30 PA samples. He should have more than that by the end of the month.
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Post by joshv02 on Apr 17, 2015 13:59:43 GMT -5
I figure that Victorino has until around the end of the month to start hitting. I figure that the Red Sox front office is never going to make decisions based on 30 PA samples. Why? You don't make a decision based on the stats accumulated during a 30 PA sample, but what makes you think you cannot make a scouting assessment after 30 PAs?
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 17, 2015 17:53:45 GMT -5
I figure that the Red Sox front office is never going to make decisions based on 30 PA samples. He should have more than that by the end of the month. I'm not saying that will be his total, but that that's how many more he will get. I figure that the Red Sox front office is never going to make decisions based on 30 PA samples. Why? You don't make a decision based on the stats accumulated during a 30 PA sample, but what makes you think you cannot make a scouting assessment after 30 PAs? That's possible (but probably also dubious), but not what people generally mean when they say "start hitting".
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Post by okin15 on Apr 18, 2015 6:31:20 GMT -5
They might at least flop Vic and Xander in the lineup so that the better hitter is up with more men on and more often. Perhaps they'll wait till Bogaerts is actually tearing the cover off rather than getting lucky on flares. It is weird though to have your best results from your 9th (or 8th) hitter.
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