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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 14, 2015 14:32:14 GMT -5
Alex Speier @alexspeier Bogaerts having an MRI done on his right knee.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 14, 2015 14:33:21 GMT -5
Alex Speier @alexspeier Bogaerts having an MRI done on his right knee. But JF is terrible for benching him!
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 14, 2015 14:34:05 GMT -5
Alex Speier @alexspeier Bogaerts having an MRI done on his right knee. Okay, that makes a bit more sense...Farrell can keep his job for now.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 14, 2015 14:35:40 GMT -5
Bogaerts has a sore knee. Explains line-up. Castillo is out a few weeks. Workman going to see Dr. Andrews. Surgery prob not necessary. Yikes.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 14, 2015 14:37:39 GMT -5
Wut oh, a Bogaerts injury could be hard to replace.
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Post by justinp123 on Apr 14, 2015 14:40:54 GMT -5
looks like Holt will be filling in alot at short.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 14, 2015 14:46:10 GMT -5
“@ryanhannable: Farrell said Bogaerts hurt the knee rounding 3B yesterday. Stayed in the game. Came in today w/ increased symptoms, so team sent him for MRI”
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Post by justinp123 on Apr 14, 2015 14:49:18 GMT -5
If he's out a while, maybe Marrero will get a little PT.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 14, 2015 14:53:15 GMT -5
Say Bogaerts is out for a bit. What's the threshold at which you call up Marrero?
I ask with the thought in mind that Holt is not an acceptable long-term option at SS defensively. On the converse, you'd need to DFA someone (Spruill probably, right?), assuming neither Escobar nor Workman is a 60-day candidate.
I think my threshold would be a month or so, although that gets shorter if one of the pitchers is headed to the 60-day.
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Post by justinp123 on Apr 14, 2015 14:56:07 GMT -5
I agree. Hopefully it doesn't even get to that point.
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Post by joshv02 on Apr 14, 2015 15:01:22 GMT -5
Say Bogaerts is out for a bit. What's the threshold at which you call up Marrero? I ask with the thought in mind that Holt is not an acceptable long-term option at SS defensively. On the converse, you'd need to DFA someone (Spruill probably, right?), assuming neither Escobar nor Workman is a 60-day candidate. I think my threshold would be a month or so, although that gets shorter if one of the pitchers is headed to the 60-day. Who wold be the backup shortstop for that month?
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Post by jmei on Apr 14, 2015 15:06:23 GMT -5
Jemile Weeks played a good amount of SS in Spring Training. I think he'd be the short-term replacement, though Marrero is certainly also an option.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 14, 2015 15:07:10 GMT -5
Unless the team is ready to have Hanley or Betts play SS, they will have to make a 40-man move. I suppose Coyle is also an option, but, like, not really.
ADD: Only real SS options are Weeks and Marrero, and both need a roster spot before than can join the big club. I think Weeks is the better option, but Marrero would have one major advantage in that he has options remaining. If Weeks is called up, he cannot be sent back down. That said, he is a good hitter, and passable on D (I don't feel there's a big defensive difference between he, X and Holt.) The Sox could even option Holt for a bit if/when X comes back if they wanted to delay a decision about Weeks. Lastly, the Weeks option would allow Marrero to continue to develop in AAA.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 14, 2015 15:08:20 GMT -5
Unless the team is ready to have Hanley or Betts play SS, they will have to make a 40-man move. I suppose Coyle is also an option, but, like, not really. None of those are options.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 14, 2015 15:14:16 GMT -5
Unless the team is ready to have Hanley or Betts play SS, they will have to make a 40-man move. I suppose Coyle is also an option, but, like, not really. None of those are options. yeah, totally agree. and I think Spruill should be the move.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 14, 2015 15:16:58 GMT -5
So it's Holt, Weeks, Marrero, or Sandy Leon type acquire?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 14, 2015 15:42:16 GMT -5
Workman is going to see Dr. Andrews, per Ryan Hannable for WEEI, so there ya go.
As for the names mentioned, Holt is still the day-off backup SS. He's fine there for a game or two. Hanley and Betts just really aren't options imo, and Coyle hasn't played shortstop as a pro, so he's definitely not. I could see Weeks, I guess, but to me, he's the backup Brock Holt, not the backup starting SS. Would be different if he were on the 40-man.
If Workman were to need TJ, I'd guess that if Bogaerts required a DL move of any length (by def'n two weeks, min.), they'd call up Marrero.
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Post by jmei on Apr 14, 2015 15:49:29 GMT -5
So it's Holt, Weeks, Marrero, or Sandy Leon type acquire? Or, you know, the MRI comes back clean and he just misses another game or two.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 14, 2015 15:56:37 GMT -5
To me, Holt is an acceptable shortstop (not great but hey neither is Bogaerts), and Weeks isn't. So if a move were necessary I would definitely prefer Marrero.
I mean if it were up to me I would just stick Mookie there but I know that isn't happening.
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Post by joshv02 on Apr 14, 2015 16:01:38 GMT -5
Agreed. If you are going to make a 40 man move just bring up Marrero and not risk losing weeks later, or putting together an inferior team. Better yet, just don't be too injured, X.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 14, 2015 16:06:14 GMT -5
Yeah I'm just saying theoretically, as shortstop, to me, is one position where the guy who'll be starting in case of injury probably isn't on the 40-man. 1B, LF covered by Craig, 3B, 2B would be Holt, CF/RF would be JBJ or Rusney depending on health, etc. (or Holt or Craig in RF, I guess). C would just be a cluster - Hanigan goes down you're making another trade.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 14, 2015 16:09:57 GMT -5
If they really believe in this ground ball mantra then Marrero would be the move. Holt is not a SS. He's ok in a pinch but I wouldn't want him there for a stretch of 15 days or more.
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Post by nomar on Apr 14, 2015 16:17:08 GMT -5
Im just praying for a "negative".
I tweak my right knee pretty frequently (I'm less than a year separated from Bogaerts in age), and I have had similar situations where I'm playing ball, keep playing with no pain, and am sore the next few days after. I've gotten one MRI, and came out without any serious problems. Hopefully Bogaerts has my luck, and only misses a small number of games. This year is big for him.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 14, 2015 16:22:34 GMT -5
Career UZR numbers suggest that Bianchi is a better defender than Weeks, FWIW. If it's strictly a 15 day affair he might be an option. I pity any team that would claim him on waivers afterwards.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Apr 14, 2015 16:30:11 GMT -5
In my experience if Bogaerts had endured some type of horrible soft tissue injury he would not have played out the game. This doesn't mean he may not have sustained an injury and may spend time on the D.L....and you know...I really have zero ideal. I'am speculating that this is not going to be serious, but even a minor injury might put him out for a month.
I don't know what the threshold is for bringing up Marrero, but I think he is the obvious guy if you need a long term solution. I know he still has some questions with the bat but we know the glove will play and with what this team is trying to do with up the middle defense and ground ball pitchers you'd think that would add more value to his glove. Maybe not enough to make up for the bat, but it would definitely mitigate the situation if he couldn't hit a lick.
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