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Post by mgoetze on Apr 27, 2015 19:47:26 GMT -5
Great play by Bogaerts.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 27, 2015 19:49:42 GMT -5
I showed the research on page 1 of this thread. "This is wrong" is a pretty poor response to that. One, 'math', by design, ignores human element. Two, Farrell laughs at its conclusions. Three, I didn't read it because I hardly ever read this shit. The pitching coach, in this case, or the game manager are far more experienced to handle the situation, and handle it best. Five, what does your response have to do with my continuing effort to ridicule this ridiculous 'pitching staff'? So what you're saying is 1. You're not just ignorant, you're also proud of it and 2. Farrell is the greatest pitching wizard ever, and that's why this rotation is so good. OK.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 27, 2015 19:55:07 GMT -5
One, 'math', by design, ignores human element. Two, Farrell laughs at its conclusions. Three, I didn't read it because I hardly ever read this shit. The pitching coach, in this case, or the game manager are far more experienced to handle the situation, and handle it best. Five, what does your response have to do with my continuing effort to ridicule this ridiculous 'pitching staff'? So what you're saying is 1. You're not just ignorant, you're also proud of it and 2. Farrell is the greatest pitching wizard ever, and that's why this rotation is so good. OK. Just imagine how much worse things would be workout Farrell. No one could coach up this staff quite like Farrell has.
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Post by TX on Apr 27, 2015 19:57:48 GMT -5
One, 'math', by design, ignores human element. Two, Farrell laughs at its conclusions. Three, I didn't read it because I hardly ever read this shit. The pitching coach, in this case, or the game manager are far more experienced to handle the situation, and handle it best. Five, what does your response have to do with my continuing effort to ridicule this ridiculous 'pitching staff'? So what you're saying is 1. You're not just ignorant, you're also proud of it and 2. Farrell is the greatest pitching wizard ever, and that's why this rotation is so good. OK. Farrell is proven, he's a damn-fine pitching coach - a reason he was hired and a reason why I respect him. To lambaste him because your mathematicians don't agree with his decisions is ridiculous.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2015 19:58:17 GMT -5
So what you're saying is 1. You're not just ignorant, you're also proud of it and 2. Farrell is the greatest pitching wizard ever, and that's why this rotation is so good. OK. Just imagine how much worse things would be workout Farrell. No one could coach up this staff quite like Farrell has. I can't tell if you're joking here or not.
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Post by dridiot on Apr 27, 2015 20:00:39 GMT -5
So what you're saying is 1. You're not just ignorant, you're also proud of it and 2. Farrell is the greatest pitching wizard ever, and that's why this rotation is so good. OK. Farrell is proven, he's a damn-fine pitching coach - a reason he was hired and a reason why I respect him. To lambaste him because your mathematicians don't agree with his decisions is ridiculous. I think we're confusing his ability as a pitching coach with his ability to make in-game decisions regarding pitching. The two are not the same. As far as I know his past reputation with the Red Sox concerns the former, and what "mathematicians" don't agree with concern the latter.
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Post by rangoon82 on Apr 27, 2015 20:00:42 GMT -5
Ogando has been a legit pickup this year
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 27, 2015 20:00:48 GMT -5
Just imagine how much worse things would be workout Farrell. No one could coach up this staff quite like Farrell has. I can't tell if you're joking here or not. Not a day goes by I don't ask myself the same thing.
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Post by TX on Apr 27, 2015 20:04:00 GMT -5
Farrell is proven, he's a damn-fine pitching coach - a reason he was hired and a reason why I respect him. To lambaste him because your mathematicians don't agree with his decisions is ridiculous. I think we're confusing his ability as a pitching coach with his ability to make in-game decisions regarding pitching. The two are not the same. As far as I know his past reputation with the Red Sox concerns the former, and what "mathematicians" don't agree with concern the latter. What are you saying here, that Farrell's stressing out about wins and going against what he knows? Come on, man, wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to just say that the poor man was dealt **** and has been doing his best to make it float?
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 27, 2015 20:04:59 GMT -5
Nice to see Mookie hit something with authority.
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Post by redsox4242 on Apr 27, 2015 20:05:04 GMT -5
Joba Chamberlain finished with 10 k's against the Sox way back when, but still gave up 5 runs and the Sox ended up winning the game(thanks mike lowell) This start by Kelly feels exactly like that game. 5 runs, 10 k's If we have to rely on Kelly to be our savior, we have problems.
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Post by jmei on Apr 27, 2015 20:05:48 GMT -5
Reminder-- no profanity, even in the gameday thread. I've been editing it out of your posts so far, but you've now been warned-- I'm just going to delete the posts going forward.
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2015 20:06:09 GMT -5
Finally a good game for Mookie. 2-3, 2B, BB. Even with the K and CS I'll take it.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 27, 2015 20:06:50 GMT -5
Farrell is proven, he's a damn-fine pitching coach ... Why is this generally accepted as FACT? Where is there evidence to support this claim?
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2015 20:07:07 GMT -5
Osuna is afraid to pitch to Papi right now. He's due for his first big league shellacking.
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Post by dridiot on Apr 27, 2015 20:07:15 GMT -5
I think we're confusing his ability as a pitching coach with his ability to make in-game decisions regarding pitching. The two are not the same. As far as I know his past reputation with the Red Sox concerns the former, and what "mathematicians" don't agree with concern the latter. What are you saying here, that Farrell's stressing out about wins and going against what he knows? Come on, man, wouldn't it be easier and make more sense to just say that the poor man was dealt **** and has been doing his best to make it float? I'm not sure you read what I said.... no that is not what I am saying. See www.baseball-excellence.com/index.cfm?Method=Instructions_Instructionsdetail&id=7and then tell me why Farrell's reputation as a pitching coach says anything about his ability to make in-game decisions.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 27, 2015 20:07:33 GMT -5
You guys keep whining, I'll be watching the Sox win this game meanwhile.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 27, 2015 20:07:59 GMT -5
Farrell is proven, he's a damn-fine pitching coach ... Why is this generally accepted as FACT? Where is there evidence to support this claim?I don't know but it's safe to say that it's not within the current Red Sox rotation.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 27, 2015 20:08:42 GMT -5
Finally a good game for Mookie. 2-3, 2B, BB. Even with the K and CS I'll take it. Mookie has a very long leash with me. Xander is shortening it day by day. What happened to this kid? Where's that pop amd hit tool that made him a top 5 prospect? I know he's insanely young, but what gives?
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2015 20:08:43 GMT -5
I just hope we tie it up before the Craig GIDP
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Post by rangoon82 on Apr 27, 2015 20:10:34 GMT -5
Nice piece by Hanley, amazing catch by Pompey
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Post by jmei on Apr 27, 2015 20:11:13 GMT -5
...and THAT'S why BABIP matters.
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Post by nomar on Apr 27, 2015 20:13:43 GMT -5
Finally a good game for Mookie. 2-3, 2B, BB. Even with the K and CS I'll take it. Mookie has a very long leash with me. Xander is shortening it day by day. What happened to this kid? Where's that pop amd hit tool that made him a top 5 prospect? I know he's insanely young, but what gives? Bogaert's starts every year the same. Little power, then more when it warms up. He's getting his fair share of hits, so if there's an uptick in power, his production will easily be above average for a SS. His K/BB numbers are mimicking those from his good years rather than last year as well. I think he's only going to get better from this point on. Last year, he couldn't touch anything low or low and away. He's still missing and chasing too much low and away. but his contact% low in the zone in general has gone up significantly. He's figuring it out day by day, and considering his huge ceiling that's fine by me.
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Post by redsox4242 on Apr 27, 2015 20:14:54 GMT -5
their not booing... their mooookingggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 27, 2015 20:14:57 GMT -5
Reminder-- no profanity, even in the gameday thread. I've been editing it out of your posts so far, but you've now been warned-- I'm just going to delete the posts going forward. Are you really going to say that just before there's a runner in scoring position with one out and Allen Craig coming in to bat? Come on Nava.
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