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Layne/Hinojosa called up, Bradley optioned, Varvaro DFAed
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 29, 2015 13:49:10 GMT -5
Looks like Layne and Hinojosa up, Bradley down and Varvaro DFA (per Twitter).
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 29, 2015 13:51:28 GMT -5
What the **** - Varvaro cut over Mujica? Even with a poor start, Varvaro's held lefties to a sub-.700 OPS in 2015. I thought he'd be a pretty important middle reliever this season, but Farrell immediately determined that he was basically the long man.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 29, 2015 13:56:13 GMT -5
What the **** - Varvaro cut over Mujica? Even with a poor start, Varvaro's held lefties to a sub-.700 OPS in 2015. I thought he'd be a pretty important middle reliever this season, but Farrell immediately determined that he was basically the long man. Had the same reaction to Craig over Bradley. Red Sox are apparently following LIFO rules.
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Post by jmei on Apr 29, 2015 14:35:31 GMT -5
What a ****ing awful roster move. They could have optioned Ross and DFAed Spruill instead. This is one of those really, honestly unjustifiable moves.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 29, 2015 14:39:57 GMT -5
@timbritton: Farrell on Varvaro DFA: "It was a matter of fit." Needed arms to face RHHs.
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Post by jmei on Apr 29, 2015 14:41:27 GMT -5
@timbritton: Farrell on Varvaro DFA: "It was a matter of fit." Needed arms to face RHHs. This is funny (read: wrong and nonsense), because the two LHP relievers who had been on the roster were Breslow and Ross, two guys with very flat splits.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 29, 2015 14:41:47 GMT -5
@jmastrodonato: Farrell seemed apologetic for DFA of Varvaro. Said it's unfair to single any one guy out when entire staff needs to be better. Needed arms.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 29, 2015 14:53:20 GMT -5
Suuuuure, throw out the guy with the .378 BABIP. I think everyone knows which LHP I'd rather have DFAed but I agree Mujica should have been in line before Varvaro also. As for Craig, I think we've said all there is to say on that subject.
However, let me say that I am excited about the Dalier Hinojosa era and wish him the best of luck. If all goes well he will be the guy locking down the 7th inning for us by the end of the season.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 29, 2015 14:57:01 GMT -5
this team takes the cake for dumb moves. Varvaro was one of the better relievers if he wasn't used constantly. Now some one will bottom feed and grab him away for nothing. You stink Farrell.
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Post by jmei on Apr 29, 2015 15:00:07 GMT -5
this team takes the cake for dumb moves. Varvaro was one of the better relievers if he wasn't used constantly. Now some one will bottom feed and grab him away for nothing. You stink Farrell. Farrell doesn't make the roster decisions, Cherington does.
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Post by Coreno on Apr 29, 2015 15:13:30 GMT -5
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Enough has been said about Mujica, but Ross is also terrible compared to Varvaro and I have no idea how they honestly keep RRJ and kick AV to the curb.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 29, 2015 15:26:07 GMT -5
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Enough has been said about Mujica, but Ross is also terrible compared to Varvaro and I have no idea how they honestly keep RRJ and kick AV to the curb. The only thing RRJ has done worse than AV is give up home runs on 25% of his flyballs (Varvaro: 0%). I guarantee you both Ross' and Varvaro's rates will be significantly closer to league average by the time the season is over.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 29, 2015 15:27:17 GMT -5
I'm glad they brought Layne back. Other than that not glad!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 29, 2015 15:52:00 GMT -5
I have no doubt Varvaro will pitch well for somebody. Don't understand why he had to be the sacrificial lamb. Mujica should have been dumped.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 16:11:40 GMT -5
Is anyone honestly surprised by where the team is at right now? During the offseason, there were ridiculous references to Steamer projections of 90+ wins. But, you don't get 90 wins with a starting staff full of retreads (Masterson), question marks (Miley and Kelly) and injury risks (Clay). Porcello is fine as a #4/#5 type pitcher - Which is what he was in Detroit. So, what do the Sox do? They give the guy $20 million a year. If anyone's to blame right now, it's not the players. They are producing according to realistic expectations. Management is to blame for making inane decisions regarding the starting staff.
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Post by jmei on Apr 29, 2015 16:16:34 GMT -5
Is anyone honestly surprised by where the team is at right now? No, because 11-10 and two games out of first place in the AL East at the end of April is a pretty reasonable place to be for a team that projected to be good but not great.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 29, 2015 17:59:23 GMT -5
What a ****ing awful roster move. They could have optioned Ross and DFAed Spruill instead. This is one of those really, honestly unjustifiable moves. The notion that Hinojosa is now a better MLB pitcher than Varvaro is really hard to justify by evidence. In fact, even in these SSS, Varvaro's MLB 3.32 FIP is more impressive than Hinojosa's 2.45 AAA FIP. In fact, it's about as hard to justify based on baseball performance as the Braves letting him go in the first place. This suggests a persistent clubhouse problem, frankly. And if that is the case, then the guy you would want replacing him on the roster, given all the guys who have to stay down for 10 days, would indeed be Hinojosa.
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Post by alnipper on Apr 29, 2015 19:19:45 GMT -5
As far as I am concerned they could of DFA'd 3 of our relievers. Ross is terrible. Mujica can only pitch well, when a teams out of contention. Breslow we are too familiar with. Varvaro did strike out batters on swings at times.
I would of rather seen Masterson to the pen. Miley or Clay on the DL with arm fatigue. DFA Ross JR, and Mujica. Call up Layne(who never should of been sent down), Ed. Rogriguez, or Brian Johnson.
You get the idea. What a mess we have.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 29, 2015 19:43:12 GMT -5
Maybe i've been wrong sticking up for Cherington. These are several awful moves here.
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 29, 2015 21:07:41 GMT -5
this team takes the cake for dumb moves. Varvaro was one of the better relievers if he wasn't used constantly. Now some one will bottom feed and grab him away for nothing. You stink Farrell. Farrell doesn't make the roster decisions, Cherington does. Though Ben has final say the manager should and does have strong input. It is very unusual to force a manager to accept a player he doesn't want. Basically if Farrell really doesn't want a player he can't be on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 23:01:03 GMT -5
Farrell doesn't make the roster decisions, Cherington does. Though Ben has final say the manager should and does have strong input. It is very unusual to force a manager to accept a player he doesn't want. Basically if Farrell really doesn't want a player he can't be on the roster. If you're saying this is how it works throughout baseball, then Billy Beane must have missed that memo.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 29, 2015 23:23:19 GMT -5
Maybe i've been wrong sticking up for Cherington. These are several awful moves here. Take a look at the post with charts on SOSH on why this move is "defenseable"
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 29, 2015 23:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 30, 2015 6:41:34 GMT -5
Though Ben has final say the manager should and does have strong input. It is very unusual to force a manager to accept a player he doesn't want. Basically if Farrell really doesn't want a player he can't be on the roster. If you're saying this is how it works throughout baseball, then Billy Beane must have missed that memo. Don't believe everything you read, especially if it's written by Michael Lewis. FYI Mayweather and Gutfriend never played Liars Poker for a million dollars.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 30, 2015 6:59:08 GMT -5
Maybe i've been wrong sticking up for Cherington. These are several awful moves here. Take a look at the post with charts on SOSH on why this move is "defenseable" Sending Jackie down and keeping Craig at this point is costing us.
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