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5/19-5/21 Red Sox vs. Rangers Series Thread
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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 19, 2015 6:57:19 GMT -5
5/19 Red Sox (LHP Wade Miley 2-4 5.60) vs. Rangers (RHP Yovani Gallardo 3-5 3.94) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI5/20 Red Sox (RHP Joe Kelly 1-2 5.58) vs. Rangers (TBD) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/ESPN/WEEI5/21 Red Sox (RHP Clay Buchholz 2-4 4.93) vs. Rangers (RHP Wandy Rodriguez 1-2 3.86) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2015 7:46:21 GMT -5
Ranaudo is one possibility to take tomorrow's start, which would've been Ross Detwiler before he went on the DL.
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Post by jmei on May 19, 2015 7:54:35 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on May 19, 2015 8:07:37 GMT -5
I believe someone else brought this up but as much as I'm a believer in working the pitchers I think some guys in this line-up would benefit from jumping on fastballs early - Xander, Mookie, and Swihart being the prime suspects, and going with the pitch when they do as they all have the ability and swings to hit line drives while doing so. Pedroia, who is widely known to take the first pitch in excess of 90% of the time, may also benefit from this especially on the first pitch if it's in a location he likes. The effect could almost be like a pitcher pitching "backwards," which keeps batters from getting comfortable looking for a first pitch fastball. In his case, it would keep pitchers on their toes and not let them get too comfortable on that first pitch which so many batteries assume he's very likely taking.
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2015 8:08:00 GMT -5
I think this series is a decent opportunity to get hot at the plate. Gallardo is hittable, the 2nd starter will likely be pretty bad, and then you'd hope by game 3 we have some momentum going into facing Wandy, who is solid yet unspectacular.
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2015 8:10:30 GMT -5
Also worth noting is that Bogaerts' 14% K rate is the lowest of his career at any level where he's had a significant number of PAs. Starting to make more solid contact with consistency is the next step, but an improvement/adjustment is definitely being made here.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 19, 2015 8:49:31 GMT -5
That's it it's time to stop being polite and patient . Okay I see basically Rodriguez and Johnson they both had adversary and came thru. It's time to get them up here.
That's rotation and now the lineup bring up Castillo when he comes back from paternity leave.
The bullpen is much better but I would eventually bring up Light and look at Aro and or Ramierz . I would put Breslow and Ross on short leashes. In starting rotation Masterson spot is still up for grabs right now. Also I need to see more from Miley and Kelly.
I think the team is gonna hang in there with Buch. I don't trust him. Porcello is really consistent right now. That's sad. Why can't they get on the same page with the offense and pitching? This team should be five games over right now ,very lucky to be in East.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 19, 2015 9:31:39 GMT -5
RHP Phil Klein is a possibility to start game 2.
ESPN.com and Yahoo.com both have him as the scheduled starter.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2015 9:34:53 GMT -5
Also worth noting is that Bogaerts' 14% K rate is the lowest of his career at any level where he's had a significant number of PAs. Starting to make more solid contact with consistency is the next step, but an improvement/adjustment is definitely being made here. Meh. Personally, I'd rather him strike out more and make better contact. It's not like he's always had this awful strikeout rate and now he's cut it in half.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 19, 2015 9:49:07 GMT -5
Man Ranaudo pulled a fast one on the Sox. I remember that year in early spring he was on of the top prospects maybe one. Then all that happened and he falls to us. He goes to the Cape and is awesome and gets 2.5 million from us. The FO loses faith and deals him for Ross.
I just joking about the fast one but I can feel Boras behind that he has all the answers. If he flames out he got 2.5 from the Sox. I just sit back and just take that in how things work.
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2015 10:42:16 GMT -5
Also worth noting is that Bogaerts' 14% K rate is the lowest of his career at any level where he's had a significant number of PAs. Starting to make more solid contact with consistency is the next step, but an improvement/adjustment is definitely being made here. Meh. Personally, I'd rather him strike out more and make better contact. It's not like he's always had this awful strikeout rate and now he's cut it in half. Well I think the point here is that it will rise again once he starts attacking fastballs more often as the article suggested. If he was making soft contact and striking out 24% of the time, it would be a huge problem. He's taking baby steps, it appears.
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 19, 2015 11:52:08 GMT -5
Well, even with Swihart and Mookie, Xander's still the youngest guy on the Red Sox (by just a few days in Mookie's case, but still), so some adjustments are still to be expected. I'm feeling better about him than I have since around this time last year. His defense looks like he may even get to "above average," which is pretty astonishing compared to where I saw him in Salem. And the drop in K rate and now noticeable increase in the violence of his swing make me think he's going to have a good rest of the year offensively.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 19, 2015 12:38:53 GMT -5
You're right but I will expand that Middlebrooks and JBJ were struggling. Now this year Xman,Betts and Swihart are not perfect but I feel better about these guys. Way better than we were last year. Throw in Barnes too.
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Post by mgoetze on May 19, 2015 14:10:05 GMT -5
Scott Lauber @scottlauber · 6m6 minutes ago
Same as it ever was. #RedSox vs TEX: Betts CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz, Ramirez LF, Sandoval 3B, Napoli 1B, Nava RF, Bogaerts SS, Swihart C, Miley
I guess the RF platoon is: Shane vs. LHP, JBJ vs. tough RHP and Nava vs. easy RHP?
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 19, 2015 14:47:27 GMT -5
If there ever was a time to get JBJ some confidence @ the plate...you would tthink it would be against hittabld RH pitchers...and by hittable I mean those who pitch more to contact
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Post by Guidas on May 19, 2015 14:53:13 GMT -5
"It's obvious Jackie still can't hit at the major league level! We've given him every opportunity!" says the inside of Farrell's head despite the opportunities were Dickey, Gray, Felix - two Cy winners and one who may be.
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Post by pedroiaesque on May 19, 2015 15:21:01 GMT -5
I believe someone else brought this up but as much as I'm a believer in working the pitchers I think some guys in this line-up would benefit from jumping on fastballs early - Xander, Mookie, and Swihart being the prime suspects, and going with the pitch when they do as they all have the ability and swings to hit line drives while doing so. Pedroia, who is widely known to take the first pitch in excess of 90% of the time, may also benefit from this especially on the first pitch if it's in a location he likes. The effect could almost be like a pitcher pitching "backwards," which keeps batters from getting comfortable looking for a first pitch fastball. In his case, it would keep pitchers on their toes and not let them get too comfortable on that first pitch which so many batteries assume he's very likely taking. The first name on my list that needs to work on being more aggressive early in the count is Napoli. The first at-bat is one thing, when you are feeling out the pitcher and the umpire, but he is consistently down in the count throughout the game, which can't help him get out of this funk. As for Pedroia, the one thing I have seen from him is the desire to pull the ball, especially with runners on. He seems to have no interest in just going the other way and moving runners up. Not sure if this is intentional or not, but his approach has been questionable, especially with two strikes.
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Post by atzar on May 19, 2015 15:22:15 GMT -5
Scott Lauber @scottlauber · 6m6 minutes ago Same as it ever was. #RedSox vs TEX: Betts CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz, Ramirez LF, Sandoval 3B, Napoli 1B, Nava RF, Bogaerts SS, Swihart C, Miley I guess the RF platoon is: Shane vs. LHP, JBJ vs. tough RHP and Nava vs. easy RHP? Yeah, what Farrell is doing with JBJ makes no sense at all.
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Post by charliezink16 on May 19, 2015 15:34:01 GMT -5
"It's obvious Jackie still can't hit at the major league level! We've given him every opportunity!" says the inside of Farrell's head despite the opportunities were Dickey, Gray, Felix - two Cy winners and one who may be. The Lavarnway treatment.
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Post by Smittyw on May 19, 2015 15:37:04 GMT -5
Not to sound too alarmist, but two months ago could anyone have predicted this RF mess working out worse than it has so far? Craig is banished from the 40-man roster, Nava only plays when he's blocking Bradley (or at first because Napoli is horrible now), and Castillo is still in Pawtucket being babied while Victorino had to be rushed back at breakneck speed.
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Post by thursty on May 19, 2015 15:43:51 GMT -5
"It's obvious Jackie still can't hit at the major league level! We've given him every opportunity!" says the inside of Farrell's head despite the opportunities were Dickey, Gray, Felix - two Cy winners and one who may be. In what universe is the present-day RA Dickey a good pitcher?
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Post by johnmark on May 19, 2015 15:47:13 GMT -5
I think this series is a decent opportunity to get hot at the plate. Gallardo is hittable, the 2nd starter will likely be pretty bad, and then you'd hope by game 3 we have some momentum going into facing Wandy, who is solid yet unspectacular. The key with Gallardois being patient. He can go for stretches without finding the plate. Lack of movement on his pitches makes for potential in hitting breakout.
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 19, 2015 15:57:45 GMT -5
Scott Lauber @scottlauber · 6m6 minutes ago Same as it ever was. #RedSox vs TEX: Betts CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz, Ramirez LF, Sandoval 3B, Napoli 1B, Nava RF, Bogaerts SS, Swihart C, Miley I guess the RF platoon is: Shane vs. LHP, JBJ vs. tough RHP and Nava vs. easy RHP? Yeah, what Farrell is doing with JBJ makes no sense at all. Unresolved anger at him from last year? Hug it out, boys!
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Post by jimed14 on May 19, 2015 16:00:21 GMT -5
"It's obvious Jackie still can't hit at the major league level! We've given him every opportunity!" says the inside of Farrell's head despite the opportunities were Dickey, Gray, Felix - two Cy winners and one who may be. In what universe is the present-day RA Dickey a good pitcher? In what universe should you expect someone like JBJ to be able to destroy a knuckleball pitcher despite almost no experience with them?
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Post by arzjake on May 19, 2015 16:13:22 GMT -5
Scott Lauber @scottlauber · 6m6 minutes ago Same as it ever was. #RedSox vs TEX: Betts CF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz, Ramirez LF, Sandoval 3B, Napoli 1B, Nava RF, Bogaerts SS, Swihart C, Miley I guess the RF platoon is: Shane vs. LHP, JBJ vs. tough RHP and Nava vs. easy RHP? Yeah, what Farrell is doing with JBJ makes no sense at all. When the Sox deal for Hamels, JBJ's D will be needed at the end of games to preserve those quality starts. JBJ stays. You trade Victorino while he's healthy For bullpen depth or a B type prospect. Nava should have been long gone a long time ago With the AB's given to Brentz, until rusney takes over..
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