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Battle for top 10 (protected) draft picks in 2016 draft
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 18, 2015 12:44:31 GMT -5
The Sox haven't been the worst team in the league since 1932. I think the Sox might pull that off this year, but I don't think they're going to lose 100 games like the 1965 edition did. No offense, but that's nuts. Really nuts. Have you seen PHI this year? They have been outscored by 113 runs in 67 games, which is on pace for the second worst run differential in the last 11 seasons (57-win 2010 Pirates).
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 18, 2015 14:14:53 GMT -5
The Sox haven't been the worst team in the league since 1932. I think the Sox might pull that off this year, but I don't think they're going to lose 100 games like the 1965 edition did. No offense, but that's nuts. Really nuts. Have you seen PHI this year? They have been outscored by 113 runs in 67 games, which is on pace for the second worst run differential in the last 11 seasons (57-win 2010 Pirates). The worst team in the league (AL) and worst team in the league (Major League Baseball) are two different things. In this instance, one is certainly more attainable than the other. Either way I hope we start trading away some older and higher paid players to further ensure our way to a good draft pick next season. I think we're nearing time where tank pictures become relevant in gamethreads again.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 18, 2015 16:19:13 GMT -5
There are no coaches or players that want anything to do with tanking (lack of effort in general is something different). You think Pedey or Farrell wants to finish with a record soo bad they get the 3rd pick in next year's draft? They won't likely be around to see that benefit. They have pride and they want to win. Most players do. (Maybe you could identify a couple Sox players where you'd question that, but not many, really).
It's not a matter of tanking. It's a matter of how good can this team be(come). That answer might be "not very."
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 18, 2015 19:57:46 GMT -5
The Sox haven't been the worst team in the league since 1932. I think the Sox might pull that off this year, but I don't think they're going to lose 100 games like the 1965 edition did. No offense, but that's nuts. Really nuts. Have you seen PHI this year? They have been outscored by 113 runs in 67 games, which is on pace for the second worst run differential in the last 11 seasons (57-win 2010 Pirates). I didn't say anything nuts. I was referring to the American League when I said league. That is the league they play in. I thought that would be quite obvious. If I had meant both leagues I would have said the worst team in baseball or the worst team in the majors, but they're not catching Milwaukee or Philly.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 18, 2015 20:14:36 GMT -5
No offense, but that's nuts. Really nuts. Have you seen PHI this year? They have been outscored by 113 runs in 67 games, which is on pace for the second worst run differential in the last 11 seasons (57-win 2010 Pirates). I didn't say anything nuts. I was referring to the American League when I said league. That is the league they play in. I thought that would be quite obvious. If I had meant both leagues I would have said the worst team in baseball or the worst team in the majors, but they're not catching Milwaukee or Philly. Didn't read it that way. Agree that they are not catching PHI or MIL.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 18, 2015 21:00:56 GMT -5
We need to deal Buchholz before he screws our pick up. Unless, teams just start hitting the ball back to him.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 20, 2015 0:21:39 GMT -5
Two wins, and the Red Sox are back in the #7 spot.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 20, 2015 8:44:41 GMT -5
We're back to our familiar 7th spot. Passed the Phillies, Milwaukee, Oakland, Miami, ChiSox and Colorado.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 20, 2015 15:12:20 GMT -5
We need to deal Buchholz before he screws our pick up. Unless, teams just start hitting the ball back to him. We need to have EROD on a low pitching limits as well. We really need Masterson back in the rotation.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2015 17:25:32 GMT -5
You don't "tank" but you can use the rest of the season as a developmental year. Get certain guys up into the rotation or lineup to take their lumps in a year with little pressure. It's a good opportunity for that. That's why you keep running Swihart out there, etc.
Hanley, Sandoval and Ortiz are staying and that's ok.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 24, 2015 9:01:22 GMT -5
We are back down to 4th place from last place overall.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 24, 2015 12:30:03 GMT -5
We are back down to 4th place from last place overall. The Sox still have a lot of AL East games left. 3rd position in the draft is certainly not out of the question.
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Post by justen on Jun 25, 2015 7:56:26 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 26, 2015 7:47:38 GMT -5
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the worst record in the AL and the 4th pick in the 2016 MLB draft:
1. PHI ---- 2. MIL -1.0 3. MIA -4.0 (4-game losing streak) 4. BOS -6.0 5. COL -7.0 6. CHW -7.0 7. SEA -7.5 8. OAK -7.5 (5-game winning streak) 9. SDO -8.5 10. CLE -8.5 11. CIN -9.5 12. ATL -9.5 13. ARI -10.0
(tiebreaker order of the above teams is ARI, COL, BOS, CHW, PHI, CIN, MIA, SDO, ATL, MIL, CLE, SEA, OAK)
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 26, 2015 9:44:24 GMT -5
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the worst record in the AL and the 4th pick in the 2016 MLB draft: 1. PHI ---- 2. MIL -1.0 3. MIA -4.0 (4-game losing streak) 4. BOS -6.05. COL -7.0 6. CHW -7.0 7. SEA -7.5 8. OAK -7.5 (5-game winning streak) 9. SDO -8.5 10. CLE -8.5 11. CIN -9.5 12. ATL -9.5 13. ARI -10.0 (tiebreaker order of the above teams is ARI, COL, BOS, CHW, PHI, CIN, MIA, SDO, ATL, MIL, CLE, SEA, OAK) Remember when the AL and NL alternated picks? The worst team in the AL would pick first, and then the NL team second. They'd flip it the next year. AL was odd-numbered years. We'd be picking second.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 26, 2015 10:10:17 GMT -5
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the worst record in the AL and the 4th pick in the 2016 MLB draft: 1. PHI ---- 2. MIL -1.0 3. MIA -4.0 (4-game losing streak) 4. BOS -6.05. COL -7.0 6. CHW -7.0 7. SEA -7.5 8. OAK -7.5 (5-game winning streak) 9. SDO -8.5 10. CLE -8.5 11. CIN -9.5 12. ATL -9.5 13. ARI -10.0 (tiebreaker order of the above teams is ARI, COL, BOS, CHW, PHI, CIN, MIA, SDO, ATL, MIL, CLE, SEA, OAK) Remember when the AL and NL alternated picks? The worst team in the AL would pick first, and then the NL team second. They'd flip it the next year. AL was odd-numbered years. We'd be picking second. What killed that was in the 2004 draft, San Diego (64-98) got the top pick over Detroit (43-119). Of course, San Diego drafted Matt Bush, leaving Justin Verlander for the Tigers, so it worked out. But still, that rule was silly.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 26, 2015 10:36:56 GMT -5
Hey Fox, I was wondering what determines tiebreaker? Is it last years record?
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 26, 2015 10:53:54 GMT -5
Hey Fox, I was wondering what determines tiebreaker? Is it last years record? yes
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 26, 2015 13:29:46 GMT -5
Remember when the AL and NL alternated picks? The worst team in the AL would pick first, and then the NL team second. They'd flip it the next year. AL was odd-numbered years. We'd be picking second. What killed that was in the 2004 draft, San Diego (64-98) got the top pick over Detroit (43-119). Of course, San Diego drafted Matt Bush, leaving Justin Verlander for the Tigers, so it worked out. But still, that rule was silly. Ball don't lie.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 26, 2015 13:49:17 GMT -5
What killed that was in the 2004 draft, San Diego (64-98) got the top pick over Detroit (43-119). Of course, San Diego drafted Matt Bush, leaving Justin Verlander for the Tigers, so it worked out. But still, that rule was silly. Ball don't lie. You suggesting that Pittsburgh getting Austin Meadows instead of Trey Ball was justice?
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Post by telson13 on Jun 26, 2015 15:45:57 GMT -5
We need to deal Buchholz before he screws our pick up. Unless, teams just start hitting the ball back to him. We need to have EROD on a low pitching limits as well. We really need Masterson back in the rotation. Wish granted. Should be good for some 3-8-7-7-4-1 lines.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 1, 2015 8:30:35 GMT -5
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the 7th pick in the 2016 MLB draft:
1. PHI ---- 2. MIL -4.0 3. MIA -5.5 4. OAK -7.5 5. COL -8.0 6. CHW -8.0 7. BOS -9.0 8. SEA -9.0 9. CIN -9.5 10. CLE -9.5 11. SDO -10.0 12. ATL -10.0 13. ARI -11.0
(tiebreaker order of the above teams is ARI, COL, BOS, CHW, PHI, CIN, MIA, SDO, ATL, MIL, CLE, SEA, OAK)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 1, 2015 10:50:47 GMT -5
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the 7th pick in the 2016 MLB draft: Because of course they would.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 2, 2015 22:14:57 GMT -5
Red Sox are 6 games out of the division/wild card, but still would have the 7th pick as of tonight's end.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 4, 2015 8:42:46 GMT -5
Red Sox are 6 games out of the division/wild card, but still would have the 7th pick as of tonight's end. Now 6th pick.
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