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Post by caseytins on Jun 22, 2015 21:02:23 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by this guy. Great K/BB rates, low BAA. He has performed at every level thus far. It seems as though he can be a solid late inning reliever soon. I haven't seem him in person, but am curious what others think.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 23, 2015 8:06:43 GMT -5
I'd like to hope that one of Aro, Light and Barnes can become a dominant late inning reliever. Maybe two!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 23, 2015 8:37:49 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by this guy. Great K/BB rates, low BAA. He has performed at every level thus far. It seems as though he can be a solid late inning reliever soon. I haven't seem him in person, but am curious what others think. I've been following his progress also. No one is really talking much about him. I've never seen him and would like to hear a scouting report on him from someone. Even in AAA he is fine. The mystery man!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 9:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 23, 2015 10:13:47 GMT -5
A K/BB of 10 is pretty good. The stats don't match the scouting report, especially for strikeouts.
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Post by jmei on Jun 23, 2015 10:27:00 GMT -5
A K/BB of 10 is pretty good. The stats don't match the scouting report, especially for strikeouts. It's only been 22.1 IP. In a sample that small, you should generally put more weight on the scouting report and less weight on the stats, even when you're talking about peripherals like walk and strikeout numbers.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 23, 2015 10:34:55 GMT -5
A K/BB of 10 is pretty good. The stats don't match the scouting report, especially for strikeouts. It's only been 22.1 IP. In a sample that small, you should generally put more weight on the scouting report and less weight on the stats, even when you're talking about peripherals like walk and strikeout numbers. Obviously for the K/BB at Pawtucket, but he has always had a decent K rate since becoming a pro of 23.9%. And a great walk rate too of 5.8%, but his control is mentioned. His command also appears like it might be better than fringe average, given his lack of getting pounded at any level. Crazy good and consistent FIPs every year and no HR issues. Some of it could be from being a little older at lower levels, but he's still doing it since he caught up with the average ages.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 23, 2015 12:36:53 GMT -5
I don't usually put relievers on my radar, and Aro was no different. Probably wouldn't even recognize the name except that arrows are cool. The results, combined with the accelerated promotions (starting 2014) and longer outings, makes it a little easier to take him for real. Definitely hope he gets a cup this year, as he's probably a Rule 5 candidate in the off-season.
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Post by curiousle on Jun 23, 2015 13:48:54 GMT -5
It might be a 'rookie muttering' (meaning me the rookie)...but you've got a buy like Aro and also Williams Jerez, who are rule 5 eligible. I would really like to see the Sox do something with them (after all, it's not like our current pen in Boston is a showcase of talent) but in both cases, Jerez and Aro were moved quickly in the year-and don't get me wrong they had the stats to back them up....but I have to think these guys are being challenged and showcased for a potential deal, I doubt they get to Boston, but maybe they're a fit elsewhere and I don't think the Sox want to lose talent without getting something back, so even if it is a bag of balls, it will do. In Jerez case, he was a 2nd rounder, and they've got money invested there, they might want to recoup some of that before year end, because, and granted, being assumptive, I think they're both gone in the Rule 5.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 25, 2015 9:21:53 GMT -5
He got called up quickly. I wonder who he is replacing?
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 25, 2015 11:52:01 GMT -5
He got called up quickly. I wonder who he is replacing? Joe Kelly? Master son may get one more chance to start.
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Post by ethanbein on Jun 25, 2015 12:05:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty excited to see what he does in the majors - his AAA numbers were off the charts. Always nice to have someone to root for during a season like this.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2015 12:24:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty excited to see what he does in the majors - his AAA numbers were off the charts. Always nice to have someone to root for during a season like this. His numbers have been great all the way up, really, save for the SSS in Portland this year in which 2 bad appearances out of 8 (one was 3-6-7-4-1-0, the other 1-3-4-2-1-3) skewed his numbers a good amount (and they're not even that bad). In the first one, he came into the game in the third, so maybe he was rushed. Gave up contact both times, but also were errors both times as well.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2015 15:33:51 GMT -5
So Aro made his Major League debut 10 months and 25 days after his High A debut. That's a pretty crazy rise. Particularly since he'd been on a level-per-year schedule before that Greenville-to-Salem promotion at the end of July last year.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2015 16:10:15 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2015 16:32:06 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. Maybe they realize that relievers like Breslow and Ross aren't even worth $500k salaries and there's little risk they can't replace those two with just about anyone from the minors and get the same performance. And maybe better. I'm surprised Aro got called up before Noe Ramirez though. The other aspect is that they have to figure out if any of these guys who are rule 5 eligible this winter are worth a damn before putting them on the 40.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 25, 2015 16:36:19 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. He's a rule five guy next year anyway so there's additional motivation to be aggressive with him.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2015 16:41:12 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. He's a rule five guy next year anyway so there's additional motivation to be aggressive with him. He converted to pitching last year. I think (hope) he's safe for one year. But the Orioles will probably take him and he'll pitch about 6 innings before being put on the 60 day DL. I swear, the Orioles just do it to annoy us.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2015 17:32:07 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. Maybe they realize that relievers like Breslow and Ross aren't even worth $500k salaries and there's little risk they can't replace those two with just about anyone from the minors and get the same performance. And maybe better. I'm surprised Aro got called up before Noe Ramirez though. The other aspect is that they have to figure out if any of these guys who are rule 5 eligible this winter are worth a damn before putting them on the 40. Noe Ramirez has been hurt for a time this season and his stuff is inferior to Aro's. As we've discussed on the podcast, he's kind of fallen behind a lot of those guys in that pen, which really is quite deep. I get they need to evaluate Jerez for Rule 5 and that's a good point. However, the guy had FIVE appearances in Salem. Yes, he shoved, but this is quite aggressive.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 25, 2015 20:55:22 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. It's about time instead if wasting money on the likes of Edward Mujica's of the world.
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Post by raftsox on Jun 25, 2015 21:04:06 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. I'm one of those people that thinks all your relievers should be home grown. Draft a 70 fastball with a fringy second pitch and let 'em go. Those types of players only have so many bullets to shoot (Bard), so you may as well use them where it counts. Pay them minimum wage and sell at the deadline when they get expensive.
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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 21:20:26 GMT -5
Like I tweeted, they really seem to be realizing the value of homegrown relievers all of a sudden. The Jerez promotion today too is crazy. I'm one of those people that thinks all your relievers should be home grown. Draft a 70 fastball with a fringy second pitch and let 'em go. Those types of players only have so many bullets to shoot (Bard), so you may as well use them where it counts. Pay them minimum wage and sell at the deadline when they get expensive. Just draft a guy with a 70 fastball, he says...
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Post by klostrophobic on Jun 25, 2015 22:07:51 GMT -5
I mean, go for the 80 Fastball guys first, but if you have to settle, 70 isn't too bad.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 25, 2015 23:17:29 GMT -5
I mean, go for the 80 Fastball guys first, but if you have to settle, 70 isn't too bad. Considering E Rodriguez's FB got 60/65 grades and he's the hardest-throwing lefty starter in the game (by a mph over Paxton), I'd love to see them pick up several Aroldis Chapmans in the later rounds. Maybe a couple senior signs. Or señor signs, as the case may be. Btw, how on earth does E Rod's FB get a "present 60"? Seriously?
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 26, 2015 6:27:47 GMT -5
Btw, how on earth does E Rod's FB get a "present 60"? Seriously? Without checking, I'd guess command. It's not all about mph
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