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Post by johnmark on Jul 2, 2015 10:15:11 GMT -5
Is there a rule where every team has to have 1 person represented on the All-Star team?
Who would be the best bet from the 2015 Red Sox to be on the AS team this year? Pedroia injured...so he isn't possible coach's selection.
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Post by nomar on Jul 2, 2015 11:26:19 GMT -5
Bogaerts should be one.
Buchholz has pitched very well but his ERA is inflated and that's what coaches seem to look at.
Mookie would be in the conversation too but I think there's a few CF who would make it over him like Trout, Cain, and Adam Jones.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jul 2, 2015 12:07:07 GMT -5
I think Tazawa is going to be the lone rep. Guy deserves it
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 2, 2015 12:11:29 GMT -5
I want Holt there. It would be such a thrill for him and he might not be in that position again.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 2, 2015 14:41:22 GMT -5
Buchholz or Uehara. Manager selection.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 2, 2015 15:07:42 GMT -5
X.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 2, 2015 17:50:54 GMT -5
I think Xander gets it.
Wish they had a spot like the NFL does for special teams. Holt would be a sure thing.
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 2, 2015 19:12:01 GMT -5
I think Xander gets it. Wish they had a spot like the NFL does for special teams. Holt would be a sure thing. Didn't they add a spot a few years ago for a utility player? |
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 2, 2015 20:56:00 GMT -5
I think Xander gets it. Wish they had a spot like the NFL does for special teams. Holt would be a sure thing. Didn't they add a spot a few years ago for a utility player? Not yet, but I think they will. With the 12 and even 13 man pitching staffs these days, guys like Holt are a need for every team. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 3, 2015 0:38:42 GMT -5
I want Holt there. It would be such a thrill for him and he might not be in that position again. Yes he merits consideration, which is something I recall saying about a month back. And yes, I doubt he'd be in a position to have a real shot in the future. Don't think he'll get the nod. I do think that if healthy Pedroia will, Bogaerts might unless the KC All-Stars don't allow for his presence, and Buchholz should get a good amount of consideration. |
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jul 3, 2015 7:33:41 GMT -5
After looking through the updated bbref bwar leaders, I cant help but think Mookie certainly deserves a spot in the ASG. He is currently tied with Keimaier for the 3rd highest WAR among AL OFs and ranks an astounding 8th among ALL AL position players in terms of WAR (not to mention an absurd 17th overall among hitters!)...here`s how he stacks up against the other 15 AL outfeilders who currently lead in voting: www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2015-value-batting.shtmlName WAR ▾ oWAR dWAR Mike Trout 5 4.6 0.7 Lorenzo Cain 3.7 2.6 1.3 #Kevin Kiermaier#3.5 1.2 2.5 #Mookie Betts# 3.5 2.5 1.2 Jose Bautista 2.9 2.5 0 Yoenis Cespedes 2.7 1.8 0.6 J.D. Martinez 2.6 2.1 0.2 Adam Jones 2.5 1.9 0.7 Josh Reddick 2 2.2 -0.4 Alex Gordon 1.9 1.6 0.1 Michael Brantley1.6 1.4 0 Jacoby Ellsbury 1.5 1.6 0 Rajai Davis 1.1 1.1 -0.1 Torii Hunter 0.3 1 -1 Hanley Ramirez -0.1 1.4 -1.8 Carlos Beltran -0.5 0.5 -0.3 Alex Rios -0.9 -0.7 -0.2 While Kiermaier is a great defensive outfeilder his offensive numbers lack the splash that Betts possesses and thus I think he would get the nod over KM if it comes doen to that... |
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Post by bjb406 on Jul 5, 2015 16:50:59 GMT -5
I hadn't even glanced at all star voting until just now, and it never ceases to amaze be how stupid it is every year. Its actually kind of cool that we are probably looking at maybe the first year ever of both the red sox and yankees getting shut out for starters. Now though that we have finally gotten rid of the east coast bias, instead of voting for the players that deserve it, be seem to have switched to having the voting be entirely ambiguous. What is going on with the Royals voting? Some obnoxious Royals fan must have voted like 9 million times by himself.
Anyway, as for the sox, I am surprised Bogaerts hasn't gotten more love. He is leading the AL in WAR among shortstops by a good margin according to espn. When the rest of the roster is formed he and Betts should both get in.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 5, 2015 20:21:21 GMT -5
You would think so but with the every team representative rule I imagine Buchholz gets the slot and Betts and Bogaerts get squeezed out. Plus with Yost as the manager it wouldn't be shocking if he selected either Moustakas or Hosmer for a last spot because well he's Ned Yost. I can definitely get behind Bogaerts as the reserve SS because really the competition is not very strong. Betts is deserving but has much more competition with Bautista, Cespedes, JD Martinez, Adam Jones, Gardner and so forth. At worst I'd love to see Betts and Bogaerts make the final five vote.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 5, 2015 20:35:23 GMT -5
Mookie Betts absolutely deserves a spot.
He won't get one though because the ASG doesn't really care about defensive value.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 5, 2015 22:43:00 GMT -5
Xander or Buchholz probably should get the nod. SS is weak, but the stupid royals fans shouldn't have voted Escobar into that spot. I hadn't even glanced at all star voting until just now, and it never ceases to amaze be how stupid it is every year. Its actually kind of cool that we are probably looking at maybe the first year ever of both the red sox and yankees getting shut out for starters. Now though that we have finally gotten rid of the east coast bias, instead of voting for the players that deserve it, be seem to have switched to having the voting be entirely ambiguous. What is going on with the Royals voting? Some obnoxious Royals fan must have voted like 9 million times by himself. Anyway, as for the sox, I am surprised Bogaerts hasn't gotten more love. He is leading the AL in WAR among shortstops by a good margin according to espn. When the rest of the roster is formed he and Betts should both get in. At least they only got four starters instead of 8... |
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Post by okin15 on Jul 6, 2015 9:52:06 GMT -5
Xander or Buchholz probably should get the nod. SS is weak, but the stupid royals fans shouldn't have voted Escobar into that spot. At least they only got four starters instead of 8... Escobar is a pretty defensible choice, though probably not the MOST deserving. Xander deserves it, but you could also argue that he played poorly for most of the last calendar year until June (and the voting started months ago). Not sure he's going to make it unless he gets fan-voted in. Would like to see him on that final ballot. I think it's AWESOME that a team like the Royals is getting all this attention. The two that would have been a disaster were at DH and 2B, and those were both thankfully left out. Should end up with a pretty all-star-ish roster with the regular snubs and borderline calls there as well. ADD: I think Buchholz or Koji is the right choice to represent us. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 6, 2015 10:01:18 GMT -5
Funny because Mookie is the 11th most valuable position player in baseball according to bref, and he won't even get consideration it seems.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 6, 2015 10:22:03 GMT -5
with a 5 man rotation still, Buchholz may not start until SUnday. If he is the lone selection, he gets replaced by any other pitcher, any team. Not a Sox.
The AL will need a CF on the bench. Gardner would count, so that factor works against Betts.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 6, 2015 11:04:36 GMT -5
I hadn't even glanced at all star voting until just now, and it never ceases to amaze be how stupid it is every year. Its actually kind of cool that we are probably looking at maybe the first year ever of both the red sox and yankees getting shut out for starters. Now though that we have finally gotten rid of the east coast bias, instead of voting for the players that deserve it, be seem to have switched to having the voting be entirely ambiguous. What is going on with the Royals voting? Some obnoxious Royals fan must have voted like 9 million times by himself. Anyway, as for the sox, I am surprised Bogaerts hasn't gotten more love. He is leading the AL in WAR among shortstops by a good margin according to espn. When the rest of the roster is formed he and Betts should both get in. Almost nothing surprises me in AS voting. It's worse than ever and is basically a contest to see which fans waste the most time voting. |
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Post by alnipper on Jul 6, 2015 11:29:21 GMT -5
Betts and X are deserving. Koji will need the rest "like he does mid-season", so I hope he gets it. Clay has a high ERA, which is a very important stat. If a manager wants a hot pitcher then Clay deserves a spot.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 6, 2015 11:53:00 GMT -5
Almost nothing surprises me in AS voting. It's worse than ever and is basically a contest to see which fans waste the most time voting. I doubt it's worse than ever. In fact, I see no starting AL players who aren't at least borderline selections (though not necessarily starters). That's better than usual. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 6, 2015 11:59:00 GMT -5
Almost nothing surprises me in AS voting. It's worse than ever and is basically a contest to see which fans waste the most time voting. I doubt it's worse than ever. In fact, I see no starting AL players who aren't at least borderline selections (though not necessarily starters). That's better than usual. There were 620 million votes this year, surpassing the previous record of 391 million in 2012. That is insane. They also disallowed millions of votes. Some fans like to just vote once, but the votes are meaningless unless you can submit thousands. I say no thanks to voting or watching. |
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jul 6, 2015 12:01:19 GMT -5
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Post by ethanbein on Jul 6, 2015 12:06:01 GMT -5
Betts has been their best player, but there is a lot of OF competition so I can see how there might not be room for him.
Buchholz is the obvious choice to me - he's 4th in the AL in fWAR and 10th in rWAR - but I think he'll get snubbed because of good but not great ERA.
Bogaerts is deserving, but I'd take Holt over him considering his positional flexibility. I'm guessing X is the sole representative in the end, but maybe they'll surprise me.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 6, 2015 18:43:00 GMT -5
Wow! Holt made the team.
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