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Breaking: Larry Lucchino out as Red Sox CEO
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 1, 2015 18:10:48 GMT -5
“@bostonglobe: Breaking: Larry Lucchino out as Red Sox CEO, @dan_shaughnessy reports”
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 1, 2015 18:13:26 GMT -5
“@mikesilvermanbb: Larry Lucchino to step down as president & CEO of Red Sox by end of the year. Sam Kennedy will replace him as president. Story online soon.”
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 1, 2015 18:16:14 GMT -5
The Red Sox are on the verge of an historic shake-up, with the reign of president and CEO Larry Lucchino about to come to an end. Brookline native Sam Kennedy, currently the executive vice president and chief operating officer of the ballclub, will replace Lucchino as president by the end of the year. Unlike Lucchino, Kennedy's responsibilities will not include having a hand in baseball operations. The title of chief executive officer will remain unfilled for the time being. The Red Sox have been exploring a succession plan from Lucchino for some time. With his contract expiring at the end of the year, the club finally decided the time was right for Lucchino's everyday responsibilities to come to an end. A key factor in the timing also was the club's desire to promote, and not lose, the next generation of leaders, topped by Kennedy, in the Red Sox' executive branch. Lucchino, who will turn 70 years old next month, has been less visible over the past year, partly as a result of a serious motorcycle accident over the winter. He has also been deeply involved with the purchase of the Pawtucket Red Sox and their bid to build a new stadium in Providence, R.I. Lucchino's duties on the PawSox front increased with the death of the group's president, Jim Skeffington, in May. Kennedy will formally assume his new duties as soon as the end of October but a transition of duties has already begun. More at the link www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/clubhouse_insider/2015/08/larry_lucchino_to_leave_role_as_red_sox_ceo
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2015 18:16:52 GMT -5
Well Red Sox nation, you won't have Larry Lucchino to kick around anymore.
Always had hoped that eventually Theo would wind up coming back in Larry's role. Guess not. Too bad.
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Post by ianrs on Aug 1, 2015 18:21:47 GMT -5
Good. Ownership shouldn't have a role in baseball ops. See: Valentine,Bobby.
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 1, 2015 18:41:42 GMT -5
Good riddance.
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Post by chud on Aug 1, 2015 18:42:46 GMT -5
I posted in another thread that I wonder if this sets up a situation like the Cubs have (i.e. basically a business president and baseball ops president) w/ potentially someone over top of Cherington...total speculation but wonder if Dave Dombrowski would be that guy if let go by Detroit considering his ties to Henry...again, baseless speculation on my part...but clearly think this gives them a way to keep Cherington as GM and provide some baseball specific oversight to his operation.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 1, 2015 18:44:42 GMT -5
How did I not hear about his serious motorcycle accident last winter?
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 1, 2015 18:45:00 GMT -5
I sure hope the Red Sox look outside of the organization to get a real head of baseball operations rather than Werner or Gordon trying to fill that role even for a second as neither of them know that much about baseball.
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Post by sdl on Aug 1, 2015 18:45:35 GMT -5
Why wait until the end of the year?
LEAVE NOW, LARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 1, 2015 18:46:13 GMT -5
It's very difficult to know from the outside who's responsible for what decisions, but it's telling that a team CEO got let go before the GM or even the manager.
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Post by WindyCityRedSox169 on Aug 1, 2015 18:55:47 GMT -5
Well Red Sox nation, you won't have Larry Lucchino to kick around anymore. Always had hoped that eventually Theo would wind up coming back in Larry's role. Guess not. Too bad. Obviously I would sincerely doubt it is Theo given what he has going on Chicago, but it is very clear no one is filling the baseball ops role that Lucchino had. At least not yet as Kennedy won't have those capabilities. As FTHW stated interesting that Lucchino is out as maybe it is true he had a larger hand in the free agent debacles we have had in our recent splurges.
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 1, 2015 19:01:57 GMT -5
Well Red Sox nation, you won't have Larry Lucchino to kick around anymore. Always had hoped that eventually Theo would wind up coming back in Larry's role. Guess not. Too bad. Obviously I would sincerely doubt it is Theo given what he has going in Chicago, but it is very clear no one is filling the baseball ops role that Lucchino had. As FTHW stated interesting that Lucchino is out as maybe it is true he had a larger hand in the free agent debacles we have had in our recent splurges. I doubt we'll ever know for sure, but the Pablo signing felt like Larry's influence (ala Carl Crawford).
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Post by mannofsteele on Aug 1, 2015 19:17:55 GMT -5
Well now there can be a new direction. It was a long time coming. He wrote his name in the sand and eventually it wore away. We'll see what else is to come.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 1, 2015 19:29:39 GMT -5
Billy Beane for head of baseball ops?
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Post by beavertontim on Aug 1, 2015 19:31:51 GMT -5
Thank you Larry for the part you played in bringing 3 world series wins to Boston.
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Post by bigpapismangosalsa on Aug 1, 2015 19:37:57 GMT -5
Hopefully this comes along with an annoucnment about Allarid Baird being replaced as the head of professional scouting as well. Yes, the moves made in 2013 worked out very well, but the ones we've made since have been atrocious. Bringing in Pierzynski (while a mistake) at least only cost us one season. However the move of trading Lester for big league talent has back-fired tremendously. We would have literally been better off giving Lackey to St Louis for nothing. While Ramirez has hit the ball well and I'm not willing to give up on someone with that offensive talent learning a position he's literally never played before, Pablo Sandoval is quite easily the second worst FA signing in Boston since 2000 (Crawford). The single most successful major league acuqisition we've made in the past two baseball seasons is Alejandro DeAza. That's truly terrible.
That said - a sincere and heartfelt thank you from this fan to Larry Lucchino. He has been the most successful CEO of the Red Sox in history. He was a big part in brining not just the one World Series title that all of us would have taken and been happy with, but two more in the decade following it. Good luck in all your future endeavours, and thank you.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Aug 1, 2015 20:59:35 GMT -5
Who is next? I hope Ben should be.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Aug 1, 2015 21:04:25 GMT -5
This news is greater than just about any trade would have been.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 1, 2015 21:07:31 GMT -5
Interesting.
Hopefully the new GM has a chance to do the right job with this team without any meddling from above. (or if Lucchino actually was control BC, Cherington gets a shot to fix things without a leash)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2015 21:12:41 GMT -5
Well Red Sox nation, you won't have Larry Lucchino to kick around anymore. Always had hoped that eventually Theo would wind up coming back in Larry's role. Guess not. Too bad. Obviously I would sincerely doubt it is Theo given what he has going on Chicago, but it is very clear no one is filling the baseball ops role that Lucchino had. At least not yet as Kennedy won't have those capabilities. As FTHW stated interesting that Lucchino is out as maybe it is true he had a larger hand in the free agent debacles we have had in our recent splurges. It's not going to be Theo. He's got his successful gig going on in Chicago as they're just becoming good. No, what I meant was that I had envisioned Lucchino sticking around until he was ready to retire around the end of the decade, and I figured by then perhaps Theo would be ready to come home and would take Larry's role but in reality be the guy Cherington as GM would answer to, the buffer between John Henry and baseball ops. I didn't expect Lucchino to go this soon and from what Scott Miller from CBS had tweeted, it sounds like Lucchino is taking a break from the game and will be trying to catch on with another team at some point in the future. If that's the case that tells me that Lucchino, who Henry referred to as the guy who ran the Red Sox, was in essence let go, or pushed aside (I don't want to say fired), and if that's the case, this could mean that the Sox change their M.O. I'd be interested in what Eric Van has to say about this as far as - if Lucchino isn't running the Sox, and the Sox found a guy to replace Larry who was more statistically oriented, would that increase the chances of the Sox bringing back the analysts they let go? If so, that would be a change in the way the Sox are doing business, which could be a good thing.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 1, 2015 22:32:34 GMT -5
Billy Beane for head of baseball ops? Billy has An ownership stake in Oakland I believe. Dombrowski would be awesome,
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Post by nomar on Aug 1, 2015 22:36:29 GMT -5
It's very difficult to know from the outside who's responsible for what decisions, but it's telling that a team CEO got let go before the GM or even the manager. This is exactly how I feel.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 1, 2015 22:53:07 GMT -5
Farrell's gotta go too honestly.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 1, 2015 23:20:14 GMT -5
I didn't expect Lucchino to go this soon and from what Scott Miller from CBS had tweeted, it sounds like Lucchino is taking a break from the game and will be trying to catch on with another team at some point in the future. If that's the case that tells me that Lucchino, who Henry referred to as the guy who ran the Red Sox, was in essence let go, or pushed aside (I don't want to say fired), and if that's the case, this could mean that the Sox change their M.O. I'd be interested in what Eric Van has to say about this as far as - if Lucchino isn't running the Sox, and the Sox found a guy to replace Larry who was more statistically oriented, would that increase the chances of the Sox bringing back the analysts they let go? If so, that would be a change in the way the Sox are doing business, which could be a good thing. In mid-2008 Tito finally got fed up with all the daily lineup advice that was coming from the analysts and being passed through Zack Scott (not 2007 as per his book with Shaugnessy, BTW). The last straw was a recommendation for Mike Lowell to sit against Chien-Ming Wang, which Tito correctly rejected. That advice must have come from someone else doing matchup analysis (swing paths, I think), because my recommendation for that series mentioned only C and SS and then said "I don't think anyone else will want to sit against the Yankees." Not as much as an aside as it seems: I actually gave Tito a printout of that e-mail when he was at a book signing at Costco! He apparently always wondered who I was, and the FO didn't want him to meet me. But I would have been on his side in terms of putting player's comfort and mental game ahead of the stats. It's the job of the FO and manager to convince the players to do the sabermetrically correct thing, and some of those things, like asking a guy as proud as Lowell to sit against the Yankees, will never fly and in the long run will be counter-productive. Jed Hoyer was great at conveying these ideas to Tito; Zack, who succeeded him, was less good. It was Jed, who hadn't been my direct boss since 2005, and not Zack, who called me to tell me that my days giving lineup advice for each series were over. What should I do instead? Jed said, whatever I felt like doing. His phrase was something like "just use your genius" (the last word I certainly remember, of course). And I mention that only because it's a fact about what the Asst. GM would have told the CEO about the quality and potential value of my work. The next February I learned from Zack that "ownership" had ordered the FO to lay off all their consultants but one (Tom Tippett). I was told that the FO was very pissed about this. And they asked for, and eventually got, six months of pay for me, to do nothing. Which was, BTW, just $9K. Given that John Henry had hired me personally and that he hired Bill James as the first thing he did, I think it's safe to say that this "ownership" directive came from LL. But I want to make it clear that I don't know that for a fact. I should also mention that I had told a few years previously that I would do a heck of a lot more for them if they'd pay me more than $1500 a month, that I had more ideas for advanced projects than I could count. This led to a clause in my contract stating that I should write up a set of proposed "New Projects" which would be contracted for separately, after discussion with Bill and the FO. I spent two years on that proposal, and was within a few weeks of finishing it up when I was laid off. Some of those ideas have still not been pursued. Given all of this, how much value do you think LL placed on analysis? I don't think the same analysts will be re-hired, but I would certainly think that we might see a greater emphasis on analysis in general.
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