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Post by templeusox on Aug 14, 2015 8:59:54 GMT -5
He's basically 1 PA short of qualifying for the leaderboards, but if he did Benintendi would lead the NYPL in OPS.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 14, 2015 9:26:01 GMT -5
He's basically 1 PA short of qualifying for the leaderboards, but if he did Benintendi would lead the NYPL in OPS. Given his lack of experience with wooden bats, that's an impressive debut. He stayed in Arkansas to work out instead of playing in the Cape League or somewhere else. I'm expecting big things from him and Moncada next year. I think both will be in Portland after 1/2 season in Salem. Could be the key to our line-up and position players.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 14, 2015 11:09:07 GMT -5
He is now 2nd in all of A- ball in wRC+ (with 176), minimum 130 PA. The guy ahead of him at 179, the Pirates' Logan Hill, is 22.
Age breakdown of the 157 players:
18: 10 (Basabe is 2nd) 19: 16 (Ockimey is 4th, Acosta is 7th) 20: 26 (Benintendi is 1st) 21: 48 (Matheny is ... 46th) 22: 41 23: 15 24: 1
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Post by jimoh on Aug 14, 2015 13:48:24 GMT -5
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 14, 2015 14:41:35 GMT -5
Can we pump the brakes a bit on an advanced college hitter putting up great numbers in the NYPL? Mainly this thread started because a lot of us thought he should get a promotion for the remainder of the season to at least expose him to more advanced pitching. The stats started showing up as proof that he's ready for it. I worry that people are going to be putting him in the HOF already when he's basically putting up the numbers he should be considering his pedigree and level.
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Post by ianrs on Aug 14, 2015 14:52:32 GMT -5
Can we pump the brakes a bit on an advanced college hitter putting up great numbers in the NYPL? Mainly this thread started because a lot of us thought he should get a promotion for the remainder of the season to at least expose him to more advanced pitching. The stats started showing up as proof that he's ready for it. I worry that people are going to be putting him in the HOF already when he's basically putting up the numbers he should be considering his pedigree and level. I don't think anybody is putting him in the HOF. But this is certainly better than not performing to expectations. Something to be particularly excited about is that Benintendi will likely move through the system very quickly. You can get a sense of this by looking at Conforto of the Mets, Schwarber of the Cubs, etc. Last year, Michael Conforto spent all his time in SS-A. He's now in the MLB (though was probably rushed, he still started this season in A+ after being in SS-A) Conforto in SS-A, 186 PA: 8.6 BB% 15.6 K%, .396 wOBA, 153 wRC+ (with a BABIP about .120 points higher than Benintendi's) Benintendi in SS-A, 140 PA: 16.4 BB%, 10.7 K%, .437 wOBA, 176 wRC+ Benintendi is looking like a special player. Of course we'll want to see him continue success at higher levels, but the fact that he is succeeding already after having basically zero prior experience with wood bats is a great, great sign.
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Post by azblue on Aug 14, 2015 16:19:34 GMT -5
Benintendi had only one full season of college baseball, which, along with the adjustment to wood bats, is a very impressive start in pro ball.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 14, 2015 16:31:22 GMT -5
Can we pump the brakes a bit on an advanced college hitter putting up great numbers in the NYPL? Mainly this thread started because a lot of us thought he should get a promotion for the remainder of the season to at least expose him to more advanced pitching. The stats started showing up as proof that he's ready for it. I worry that people are going to be putting him in the HOF already when he's basically putting up the numbers he should be considering his pedigree and level. If we're going to get all bent out of shape about how slow Trey Ball is progressing so far, the we sure as hell should be encouraged by how well Benintendi is adjusting to pro ball and wooden bats so far. Nobody's putting him in the HOF, but there is reason to feel good about the pick so far.
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Post by jimoh on Aug 14, 2015 17:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on Aug 15, 2015 11:12:43 GMT -5
You are, of course, correct. I was thinking of Benintendi missing the summer after his freshman year because he was rehabbing an injury suffered near the end of the 2014 season.
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Post by m1keyboots on Aug 15, 2015 15:53:51 GMT -5
You are, of course, correct. I was thinking of Benintendi missing the summer after his freshman year because he was rehabbing an injury suffered near the end of the 2014 season. he and his coaches have been saying he had wrist problems most of his freshman year. so he played a year hurt. admirable, but he wasn't getting paid so we can just call him a gamer. I don't have links. but I did google "Andrew benintendi injury freshman year'. so I would consider he has had one healthy season..
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Post by arzjake on Aug 15, 2015 20:35:53 GMT -5
So the Boston radio media is is trying to turn him into the Manziel of baseball. On a more credible note, his 15% IFFB rate needs to go down, especially considering that Benintendi is only in the NYPL. Hard to get away with that without hitting for a lot of power, which I'm not sure Benintendi will do in the majors. Seems like the best way to get him to adjust would be letting him see more advanced pitching for a couple weeks There isn't a talk radio host or side kick in boston that has a clue about the Sox minor league system. Not one!
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Post by telson13 on Aug 15, 2015 23:34:07 GMT -5
He is now 2nd in all of A- ball in wRC+ (with 176), minimum 130 PA. The guy ahead of him at 179, the Pirates' Logan Hill, is 22. Age breakdown of the 157 players: 18: 10 (Basabe is 2nd) 19: 16 (Ockimey is 4th, Acosta is 7th) 20: 26 (Benintendi is 1st) 21: 48 (Matheny is ... 46th) 22: 41 23: 15 24: 1 And it's Benintendi, from the outside! Benintendi taking the lead! Basabe, btw, looks like a bigtime sleeper for next year. More HR than the rest of the 18 yos in the NYPL combined. Very curious to hear what scouting reports say about his power, because 7 HR at 18 in the NYPL is pretty rare, by my (admittedly porous) recollection. His BB:K rate isn't all that bad either, especially given his age.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 16, 2015 0:21:17 GMT -5
So: - All the Ball stuff went into the Trey Ball thread
- The back and forth on the signings, drafts, trade value, and what the real cost was (or wasn't) goes into What can be done to fix the Sox thread
Have fun.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 16, 2015 20:17:13 GMT -5
Chris Hatfield Chris Hatfield 4m4 minutes ago According to @soxprospects sources, Andrew Benintendi is being promoted to Greenville. Story coming.
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Post by templeusox on Aug 16, 2015 20:48:35 GMT -5
Just as he qualifies to lead the NYPL in OPS.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Aug 16, 2015 20:50:36 GMT -5
That's a fairly talented team in Greenville right now.
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Post by templeusox on Aug 16, 2015 22:25:25 GMT -5
Here are the top 10 OPS's in the NYPL over the last 5 years with the BABIP in parentheses:
1. Rowan Wick [2014]- 1.290 OPS (.437 BABIP) 2. Saxon Butler [2012]- .990 OPS (.313 BABIP) 3. Daniel Muno [2011]- .980 OPS (.425 BABIP) 4. Andrew Aplin [2012]- .978 OPS (.379 BABIP) 5. Cory Vaughn [2010]- .953 OPS (.347 BABIP) 6. Rylan Sandoval [2010]- .950 OPS (.369 BABIP) 7. Tyler Austin [2011]- .943 OPS (.389 BABIP) 7. Travis Taijeron [2011]- .943 OPSv(.398 BABIP) 9. Darrell Ceciliani [2010]- .941 OPS (.435 BABIP) 10. A.J. Reed [2014]- .936 OPS (.337 BABIP)
Now let's throw Benintendi in there and tell me if you see something that sticks out...
1. Rowan Wick [2014]- 1.290 OPS (.437 BABIP) 2. Saxon Butler [2012]- .990 OPS (.313 BABIP) 3. Daniel Muno [2011]- .980 OPS (.425 BABIP) 4. Andrew Aplin [2012]- .978 OPS (.379 BABIP) 5. Cory Vaughn [2010]- .953 OPS (.347 BABIP) 6. Rylan Sandoval [2010]- .950 OPS (.369 BABIP) X. ANDREW BENINTENDI [2015]-.948 OPS (.279 BABIP) 7. Tyler Austin [2011]- .943 OPS (.389 BABIP) 7. Travis Taijeron [2011]- .943 OPSv(.398 BABIP) 9. Darrell Ceciliani [2010]- .941 OPS (.435 BABIP) 10. A.J. Reed [2014]- .936 OPS (.337 BABIP)
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 16, 2015 22:41:04 GMT -5
That's a fairly talented team in Greenville right now. Sure is, we have a bright future!!! Go Red Sox!!
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 16, 2015 23:42:03 GMT -5
It means his numbers are for real not just a lucky season?
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Aug 17, 2015 1:11:03 GMT -5
it means he's been unlucky this year and he's still posting great numbers so yes.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 17, 2015 5:06:25 GMT -5
it means he's been unlucky this year and he's still posting great numbers so yes. Or that he is walking a lot, is not striking out, but is not hitting line drives. Not saying that is the case, just another explanation.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Aug 17, 2015 5:39:27 GMT -5
He is hitting pop ups too often. (16.4%) That's his only problem.
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Aug 17, 2015 6:21:01 GMT -5
What do you think Benintendi's ultimate projection is? I see him as a Christian Yelich with 20+ hr potential in the bigs as a realistic comparison.
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Post by nomar on Aug 17, 2015 6:45:52 GMT -5
What do you think Benintendi's ultimate projection is? I see him as a Christian Yelich with 20+ hr potential in the bigs as a realistic comparison. I don't think this is a great comp. They both are low K guys with above average speed, but Yelich is a dead ground ball hitter, and Benintendi doesn't have that problem.
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