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Post by mattpicard on Nov 13, 2015 19:48:26 GMT -5
How.
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Post by atzar on Nov 13, 2015 19:48:55 GMT -5
Wow. ...not a good wow, either.
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Post by lithuaniansoxfan on Nov 13, 2015 19:48:31 GMT -5
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36 Source: That's the entire deal: Asuaje, Allen, Guerra and Margot for Kimbrel. No one else involved. Well that would be disappointing.
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Post by burythehammer on Nov 13, 2015 19:48:38 GMT -5
Was not a fan if it was just Kimbrel. Love it if it's for Ross also, depending on who else we give (is Margot, Allen and A-SWA-HAY enough?)
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Post by Smittyw on Nov 13, 2015 19:49:19 GMT -5
Margot, Guerra...I mean, it has to be more than Kimbrell coming back, right?
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Post by ianrs on Nov 13, 2015 19:49:49 GMT -5
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36 Source: That's the entire deal: Asuaje, Allen, Guerra and Margot for Kimbrel. No one else involved. I just threw up everywhere. This is going to be an absolute nightmare. If Dombrowski actually just got fleeced by AJ Preller, this organization is doomed.
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Post by WindyCityRedSox169 on Nov 13, 2015 19:49:37 GMT -5
Woof
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Post by burythehammer on Nov 13, 2015 19:49:54 GMT -5
What the hell.
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Post by notguilty on Nov 13, 2015 19:51:14 GMT -5
Oh. My. God. Well, DD was brought in to blow up the farm system. Buckle up.
Not looking forward to it. Hope it's more than Kimbrel, otherwise I'll puke.
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Post by foreverred9 on Nov 13, 2015 19:51:15 GMT -5
Excessive
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Post by chavopepe2 on Nov 13, 2015 19:51:20 GMT -5
Yeah, this sucks.
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Post by burythehammer on Nov 13, 2015 19:51:49 GMT -5
So much for all the Dombrowski apologists. Explain this one, folks.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 13, 2015 19:52:03 GMT -5
Wow. That seems like a lot for just Kimbrel.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 13, 2015 19:52:29 GMT -5
How do you move Margot AND Guerra in this deal? I keep thinking there has to be more coming back to us, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
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Post by bluechip on Nov 13, 2015 19:52:50 GMT -5
That's terrible.
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Post by burythehammer on Nov 13, 2015 19:52:56 GMT -5
Oh. My. God. Well, DD was brought in to blow up the farm system. Buckle up. Not looking forward to it. Hope it's more than Kimbrel, otherwise I'll puke. I have no problem trading Guerra and Margot. They are guys many of us have identified as trade bait. I have a problem with trading them for a highly paid relief pitcher. That's insane.
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Post by burythehammer on Nov 13, 2015 19:54:11 GMT -5
I mean, couldn't we have at least gotten Chapman if we were gonna do this?
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Post by youngbillrussell on Nov 13, 2015 19:53:49 GMT -5
Hurts at first glance but 100% improves the team without touching its top young prospects.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Nov 13, 2015 19:54:17 GMT -5
It just doesn't make sense to trade all our best excess trade pieces and not get a starter back.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Nov 13, 2015 19:54:31 GMT -5
Jesus christ, that was an absolute rape job
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Post by amfox1 on Nov 13, 2015 19:54:45 GMT -5
Jon Heyman @jonheymancbs 50s51 seconds ago No surprise, red sox take all the money (meaning they pay kimbrel contract)
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Post by rafael on Nov 13, 2015 19:55:48 GMT -5
Horrible deal. One of the most lopsided deals in recent history.
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Post by mredsox89 on Nov 13, 2015 19:56:09 GMT -5
It just doesn't make sense to trade all our best excess trade pieces and not get a starter back. Unless they have a deal involving a current MLB pitcher (Miley), JBJ, and some mid level prospects for a starter, or are just going to go spend the $ on Price It does seem excessive, but I think we may over value Guerra
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 13, 2015 19:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by mannofsteele on Nov 13, 2015 19:57:19 GMT -5
In a perfect world you're acquiring one of the best power arms in baseball. He helps the immediate return and in the near future. Developing a farm system is about taking it apart at times. Personally, I'm okay with this because he's been consistent. He'll have some questions with the transition to the AL from the NL, but at the same time power arms play. The last time we had a power pitcher with this arsenal is a combination of Jon Papelbon/Dan Bard (before he blew his confidence). Guerra is in high A with a great glove and has shown exceedingly high power for a player of his size, but in a position where the Red Sox are having Xander Bogaerts at 23, who just win a Silver Slugger award and nominated for a GG after early reviews when in the minors where some questioned his ability to stay at the position it is sound. Yes, my reasoning is lackadaisical in some sense, because you never want to overpay. But, Kimbrel represents both what is successful and sexy in the majors. Margot is an interesting prospect who does a multitude of everything. Logan Allen, you don't know what you have there yet, that's where I'm somewhat disappointed. Not everything can be a steal for your side. To me Aroldis Chapman started here and went higher. So yeah I'm excited! Giddy up!
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