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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 29, 2016 23:59:28 GMT -5
I want Jordan Sheffield.
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Post by radiohix on Apr 30, 2016 9:33:54 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Apr 30, 2016 12:47:19 GMT -5
He's a guy I like too, terrific arm, but the command issues scare me...Still, no doubt he has TOR stuff.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 2, 2016 9:59:01 GMT -5
I think Jordan Sheffield is a possibility. He might have the best stuff this draft and also pitched well in high competition. But small size (5-11) and TJS history could be an issue.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 4, 2016 13:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on May 4, 2016 13:34:11 GMT -5
Oh come on. I'm pretty sure that would be an MLB HR derby record. Did he use Thors hammer to hit it?
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Post by jimed14 on May 4, 2016 14:08:01 GMT -5
Maybe it was a golf ball with a metal bat.
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Post by nomar on May 4, 2016 14:11:15 GMT -5
Oh come on. I'm pretty sure that would be an MLB HR derby record. Did he use Thors hammer to hit it? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure Thor's hammer was fictional.
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Post by costpet on May 4, 2016 14:43:14 GMT -5
According to a physicist who wrote about it years ago, the theoretical limit to a baseball being hit with an average wind blowing out (15 mph)is 550 ft. Anything beyond that must have a really hard wind blowing out or someone is lying (like Mickey Mantle fans).
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 4, 2016 16:28:16 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on May 4, 2016 16:47:46 GMT -5
"...an average wind blowing out (15 mph)....
My recollection is that "The Physics of Baseball" uses 10 mph as an average wind (tail/cross/head).
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Post by telson13 on May 4, 2016 17:01:04 GMT -5
According to a physicist who wrote about it years ago, the theoretical limit to a baseball being hit with an average wind blowing out (15 mph)is 550 ft. Anything beyond that must have a really hard wind blowing out or someone is lying (like Mickey Mantle fans). www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/1997/10/the_myth_of_the_500foot_home_run.htmlI suppose there's ye possibility of some increased distance with today's ridiculous bats, but yeah, 538' with a gale force tailwind, a 35-38 degree launch angle, a guy throwing 100 mph, etc...
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Post by myleskennefick on May 5, 2016 11:44:49 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on May 5, 2016 13:36:04 GMT -5
As I start doing a little more research, I'm becoming increasingly intrigued by the high school arms projected to go in our range. I'm generally reluctant to go with a HS pitcher in the first round (blame Trey Ball?), but I'm not seeing much in the way of exciting college bats or arms in our range (with a couple of exceptions).
In particular the Forrest Whitely - Braxton Garrett - Ian Anderson - Joey Wentz quartet has my attention.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 5, 2016 16:19:02 GMT -5
BA posted their new Top 100: www.baseballamerica.com/draft/may-5-2016-top-100-draft-prospects/#7omTKpXPdf3KdKvs.971 A.J. Puk lhp Florida 2 Riley Pint rhp St. Thomas Aquinas High, Overland Park, Kan. 3 Jason Groome lhp Barnegat (N.J.) High 4 Kyle Lewis of Mercer 5 Nick Senzel 3b Tennessee 6 Corey Ray of Louisville 7 Delvin Perez ss International Baseball Academy, Ceiba, P.R. 8 Mickey Moniak of La Costa Canyon High, Carlsbad, Calif. 9 Braxton Garrett lhp Florence (Ala.) High 10 Blake Rutherford of Chaminade College Prep, Canoga Park, Calif. 11 Ian Anderson rhp Shenendohowa High, Clifton Park, N.Y. 12 Matt Manning rhp Sheldon High, Sacramento 13 Dakota Hudson rhp Mississippi State 14 Alex Kirilloff of Plum High, New Kensington, Pa. 15 Zack Collins c Miami
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Post by telson13 on May 5, 2016 16:55:52 GMT -5
Garrett with helium. He seems to have relatively advanced pitchability and good secondary stuff. Not sure what's happened with Whitley. A lot of talented HS pitching in this draft. I'm starting to wonder if that means some high-end collegiate talent will drop. Should be some very good HS pitchers still available at 51.
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Post by forzamilano10 on May 6, 2016 8:04:51 GMT -5
Thinking about Trey Ball recently had me wondering, why do teams draft HS arms with top picks? It seems to me that the best arms went to college.
Taking a look at the top HS arms taken in the past drafts and their 2016 club and stats:
Tyler Kolek / 2014 2nd overall / 2015 - 4.56 era in A ball Kodi Medeiros / 2014 12th overall / 7.77 era in A+ Touki Toussaint / 2014 16th overall / 7.84 era in A Kohl Stewart / 2013 4th overall / 1.91 era in A+ Trey Ball Max Fried / 2012 7th overall / 3.52 era in A Nick Travieso / 2012 14th overall / 4.50 era in AA
Aside from Stewart, these guys aren't lighting it up like you would expect a top pick to do.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 6, 2016 9:10:10 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on May 6, 2016 9:16:28 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on May 6, 2016 9:35:51 GMT -5
Thats one I pick I wouldn't mind either. It seems similar to a Schwarber situation....the bat is monstrous for catcher, but has the potential to play anywhere.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 6, 2016 9:39:06 GMT -5
Collins' power isn't as good as Schwarber's.
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Post by jmei on May 6, 2016 9:47:08 GMT -5
I'm always wary of overvaluing a guy with a certain profile because another guy with that profile had some recent success. Recency bias is definitely a thing.
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 6, 2016 10:13:08 GMT -5
They always say to never draft for an organizational need, but this team needs to draft some potential power SP who have the potential to end up that way the 1st 2-3 rounds if possible with this draft seeming to be so deep with pitching if everything stays as it seems it is and not go after backup catchers and 5th OF.
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Post by templeusox on May 6, 2016 10:20:56 GMT -5
Zack Collins? Yea, cool let's do it.
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Post by greatscottcooper on May 6, 2016 11:25:12 GMT -5
They always say to never draft for an organizational need, but this team needs to draft some potential power SP who have the potential to end up that way the 1st 2-3 rounds if possible with this draft seeming to be so deep with pitching if everything stays as it seems it is and not go after backup catchers and 5th OF. I actually semi disagree with not drafting for need, admittedly I'm a moron so who knows. However I don't think there is anything wrong with drafting pitching if you need pitching or hitting if your system is weak on the offensive side. What I do agree with in terms of not drafting for need is drafting a right fielder because you need a right fielder, drafting a catcher because you don't have a good catcher, or drafting a LH relief pitcher because you think you will need to get more lefty's out in 5 years etc etc etc. How many teams have draft boards where players are put into tiers? and by the time you get to lets say the 12th pick you have 4-5 guys there that if all else equal you take the pitcher because you think your system needs it more. I think teams do draft for needs, just not specific needs.
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