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2016 MLB Draft
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 19, 2016 18:06:11 GMT -5
Opening day for college baseball today.
Kendall Rogers @kendallrogersd1 Was told @vandybaseball’s Jordan Sheffield was pure filth early on today, sitting 95-97 in the first inning. Good game going against #USD.
Aaron Fitt @aaronfitt Connor Jones has faced just one batter over the minimum through 5 scoreless, gotten 8 groundball outs, 4K. Sitting 90-93, T94. #mlbdraft
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Post by iakovos11 on Feb 19, 2016 18:51:10 GMT -5
Don't know anything about this guy, but Piliere has him as a sleeper. Maybe a Sox target? ADD: They topped Oklahoma St today (ranked #8 right now, I believe)
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 19, 2016 19:20:05 GMT -5
Another projected-1st round guy to keep an eye on:
Georgia Baseball @baseballuga Final line on Robert Tyler: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 13 Ks.
Nice day at the office for Tyler.
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Post by nomar on Feb 19, 2016 20:01:08 GMT -5
Another projected-1st round guy to keep an eye on: Georgia Baseball @baseballuga Final line on Robert Tyler: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 13 Ks. Nice day at the office for Tyler. Do you know anything about him i.e. plus pitches or velo?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 19, 2016 21:42:21 GMT -5
Another projected-1st round guy to keep an eye on: Georgia Baseball @baseballuga Final line on Robert Tyler: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 13 Ks. Nice day at the office for Tyler. Do you know anything about him i.e. plus pitches or velo? Kendall Rogers @kendallrogersd1 .@baseballuga RHP Robert Tyler, I’m told, 93-97 with very good command today. Struck out 13 on 76 pitches, 1 H, 0 R, 5 IP. Loud. #mlbdraft
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Post by templeusox on Feb 20, 2016 18:39:27 GMT -5
This Draft is so, so good.
LOL at the usual skeptics who always say it's an average or below-average draft. They say it every year and no one ever calls them on their BS.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 22, 2016 14:37:36 GMT -5
Keith Law wrote about Robert Tyler, Kyle Lewis, and Alec Hansen in his recent blog post (for Insiders): - Noted that Tyler was throwing 89-96 mph with below-average command, a change-up that flashed above-average to plus, and a fringe curveball. Suggests that his performance this weekend was augmented by a bad Georgia Southern lineup. Tyler struggles with his release point and has some durability questions. Potential reliever profile. - Lewis could have a high ceiling as an above-average runner with raw power and the possibility to stick as a centerfielder, but he swings and misses a ton. He has a very noisy swing which will need to be cleaned up at the pro-level. - Briefly mentioned Hansen's poor outing and is worried about Hansen's overall durability, mentioning Hansen was shut down in the fall with forearm soreness. Mentioned Hoffman, Fedde, and Matuella as guys who were supposed to be just a little hurt but ended up getting shut down. insider.espn.go.com/blog/mlb-draft/insider/post?id=2521
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Post by templeusox on Feb 23, 2016 0:01:34 GMT -5
7 best players in the Draft:
1. Jason Groome 2. Blake Rutherford 3. Corey Ray 4. Delvin Perez 5. A.J. Puk 6. Carter Kieboom 7. Mickey Moniak
This is Tier 1. Each of these players has All-Star potential and the top two on the list can be all-time greats.
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Post by joshv02 on Feb 23, 2016 8:51:31 GMT -5
Christ. Another Jersey kid for Temple to dream on.
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Post by nomar on Feb 23, 2016 9:22:12 GMT -5
Well if he drops to us something terrible has happened to him.
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Post by templeusox on Feb 23, 2016 10:53:37 GMT -5
Guys, please join me in dreaming on him. You couldn't engineer a more perfect pitching prospect. I don't care about him falling to us. It's good for the sport.
I'm also generally conservative on high school bats, but the four high school position players I listed are all very special, exceptional players. Combine that with the college outfielders (Ray, Reed, Grier, Banks) and I think there's some real nice hitting depth. I'll go to war with Carter Kieboom, who is a rich man's Michael Chavis.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 23, 2016 12:37:56 GMT -5
Who is the Marke Appel of the draft?
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Post by telson13 on Feb 23, 2016 14:52:08 GMT -5
Who is the Marke Appel of the draft? AJ Puk, maybe? As much of a disaster as the Ball pick looks to be, with the depth in the system, and presuming none of the big-time talents will fall anywhere near 12, do the Sox go for max upside, or high floor? Personally, I'm hoping there's a talent there like Kolby Allard who falls due to a (retrospectively) minor issue. My biggest fear is that they go for a "closest to the majors" RHP who probably has #3 upside at best, with a 7th-inning floor. Or the 1st-round equivalent of a Tate Matheny (Colin Moran?).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2016 9:30:26 GMT -5
Who is the Marke Appel of the draft? AJ Puk, maybe? As much of a disaster as the Ball pick looks to be, with the depth in the system, and presuming none of the big-time talents will fall anywhere near 12, do the Sox go for max upside, or high floor? Personally, I'm hoping there's a talent there like Kolby Allard who falls due to a (retrospectively) minor issue. My biggest fear is that they go for a "closest to the majors" RHP who probably has #3 upside at best, with a 7th-inning floor. Or the 1st-round equivalent of a Tate Matheny (Colin Moran?). Hopefully I'll get around to posting this on the News Page at some point, but using the BA Handbook, I was going through and seeing if, as some have said, Ball really would have fallen out of the first round (or at least much farther) if they redrafted 2013 over again. It's actually looking like he still might be a supp pick or something. Maybe not what you want at #7, but it's not like they drafted some guy who's out of baseball or anything.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2016 9:32:41 GMT -5
Which is less than the difference between having a second-round pick and not having one, so on a per-pick basis, the number actually dropped a bit from last year.
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Post by templeusox on Feb 24, 2016 9:49:47 GMT -5
]Hopefully I'll get around to posting this on the News Page at some point, but using the BA Handbook, I was going through and seeing if, as some have said, Ball really would have fallen out of the first round (or at least much farther) if they redrafted 2013 over again. It's actually looking like he still might be a supp pick or something. Maybe not what you want at #7, but it's not like they drafted some guy who's out of baseball or anything. Tall LHP's are some of the latest developing prospects. I don't think Trey Ball will ever be Clayton Kershaw, but I still think he's young and athletic enough to develop into a major league pitcher. This year would be his junior year in college. Let's at least give him the 2016 season before we write him off.
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Post by templeusox on Feb 24, 2016 9:58:29 GMT -5
I had a nightmare last night that Dave Dombrowski used his influence to force a re-do of last year's Draft so he could take Tyler Jay over Benintendi.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2016 9:59:42 GMT -5
I had a nightmare last night that Dave Dombrowski used his influence to force a re-do of last year's Draft so he could take Tyler Jay over Benintendi. I think you need a vacation, Ian.
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Post by templeusox on Feb 24, 2016 10:11:36 GMT -5
I had a nightmare last night that Dave Dombrowski used his influence to force a re-do of last year's Draft so he could take Tyler Jay over Benintendi. I think you need a vacation, Ian. Feats of Benintendi: woke me up from my 20 year card-collecting slumber.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 24, 2016 10:53:22 GMT -5
"Can't wait to hit one over the Green Monster"
Yeah, me too. Isn't one of his weaknesses that he doesn't go the other way with power yet?
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Post by radiohix on Feb 24, 2016 10:58:48 GMT -5
"Can't wait to hit one over the Green Monster" Yeah, me too. Isn't one of his weaknesses that he doesn't go the other way with power yet? It's basically the only aspect of his game that I'm planning to monitor* this season: Oppo-power. EDIT: There's also his pop ups% but that's minor.
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Post by nomar on Feb 24, 2016 11:01:05 GMT -5
Temple is willing Benintendi into being a star and I'm so for it.
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Post by Costigan on Feb 24, 2016 11:07:08 GMT -5
I wish I was as passionate about anything as Temple is about Benintendi.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2016 14:46:15 GMT -5
I had a nightmare last night that Dave Dombrowski used his influence to force a re-do of last year's Draft so he could take Tyler Jay over Benintendi. I think you need Benintendi needs a vacation restraining order, Ian. FMP
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Post by thegoo13 on Feb 24, 2016 16:19:10 GMT -5
]Hopefully I'll get around to posting this on the News Page at some point, but using the BA Handbook, I was going through and seeing if, as some have said, Ball really would have fallen out of the first round (or at least much farther) if they redrafted 2013 over again. It's actually looking like he still might be a supp pick or something. Maybe not what you want at #7, but it's not like they drafted some guy who's out of baseball or anything. Tall LHP's are some of the latest developing prospects. I don't think Trey Ball will ever be Clayton Kershaw, but I still think he's young and athletic enough to develop into a major league pitcher. This year would be his junior year in college. Let's at least give him the 2016 season before we write him off. I agree with this line of thinking. We are all disappointed with Ball so far, but Temple is right when he says Tall LH pitchers are often late to develop. My understanding is that the scouting somewhat supports this theory with Ball. So far in his professional career when he repeats his delivery correctly he has gotten good results. Problem is that has not been often. Just saying that two years ago there were questions about his raw stuff. Last year he sort of put that to bed. Meaning his raw stuff is probably good enough. Not overpowering or anything but good enough. If he can repeat the delivery he has a back end starter floor. Not the end of the world. I agree this is a big year for him. This is the year to show he has figured it out some and doesn't go through the terrible stretches where he looks clueless.
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