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Post by mattpicard on Apr 7, 2016 22:24:30 GMT -5
4/8 Red Sox (RHP Joe Kelly 0-0 0.00) @ Blue Jays (RHP Marcus Stroman 1-0 3.38) 7:07 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI4/9 Red Sox (RHP Rick Porcello 0-0 0.00) @ Blue Jays (RHP R.A. Dickey 1-0 5.40) 1:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEI4/10 Red Sox (RHP Steven Wright 0-0 0.00) @ Blue Jays (RHP Marco Estrada 0-0 0.00) 1:07 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 8, 2016 4:38:04 GMT -5
Rick Porcello versus this lineup scares the bejesus out of me. Reverse lock in play.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 8, 2016 5:11:29 GMT -5
Kinda crazy that it's their #1 vs our #3 and we're not even a week into the season.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 8, 2016 6:48:18 GMT -5
Wright in a dome is a bad choice, especially vs. that lineup.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 8, 2016 7:14:24 GMT -5
Wright in a dome is a bad choice, especially vs. that lineup. At least he's pitching the first game of the series to maximize the knuckleball hangover effect.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Apr 8, 2016 8:37:33 GMT -5
I wonder if Wright & Dickey will have a Labatt & talk shop.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 8, 2016 9:05:22 GMT -5
What is this about knucklers in a dome? Is there evidence for this? I remember Wakefield saying he really liked pitching in Tampa Bay because the wind currents were so predictable, with a slight headwind from the air circulation, so he could control the knuckleball better. So I thought it was good to be in the dome. But was that just one guy's opinion, specific to Tampa Bay? Or am I remembering that wrong?
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Post by humanbeingbean on Apr 8, 2016 9:18:48 GMT -5
I'm expecting some 8-7 and 10-9 ballgames this series, but then that means it wouldn't be at all surprising if they're low-scoring pitching duels. Stroman especially. He's a beast on the mound.
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Post by costpet on Apr 8, 2016 9:19:44 GMT -5
The mysteries of the knuckle ball are yet to be solved. Even Wakefield had no clue what it was going to do once it left his hand. A guy in the 3rd row could sneeze and cause the ball to skid. Or a bird flying by. I do know that no wind at all is not good. A knuckle ball depends on air hitting the seams in some fashion. Then, it does what it does. It's more like a quantum ball ie. It makes no sense, it is what it is. (sort of like my wife, but that's another story)
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Post by cheers on Apr 8, 2016 9:34:46 GMT -5
Looking at Dickey's aggregate home/away splits for the last three seasons, it doesn't look like he is adversely impacted by the dome. Not sure if that can be directly correlated to Wright, as I believe he throws the knuckler at a higher velo than Wright. Unsure if that is true, or if it even matters (as I think costpet's "quantum ball" theory may carry water).
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Post by Guidas on Apr 8, 2016 10:52:50 GMT -5
I don't understand why Farrell's not leveraging the starter opportunities after the rain-out, especially with the Jays coming up twice in the next 10 days.
Oh wait, I saw that I wrote the word "Farrell" above. Disregard.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 8, 2016 11:10:05 GMT -5
Looking at Dickey's aggregate home/away splits for the last three seasons, it doesn't look like he is adversely impacted by the dome. Not sure if that can be directly correlated to Wright, as I believe he throws the knuckler at a higher velo than Wright. Unsure if that is true, or if it even matters (as I think costpet's "quantum ball" theory may carry water). That's probably impossible to look at Dickey's splits unless you can figure out exactly which games the dome was open in Toronto.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 8, 2016 11:15:46 GMT -5
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Post by tjb21 on Apr 8, 2016 13:38:53 GMT -5
I'm all for improving draft position.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 8, 2016 13:39:27 GMT -5
Great find. Half a season's worth of Pitchf/x data is of course already quite a lot because it's looking at every pitch, but I agree some more comparisons would be great.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 8, 2016 14:35:17 GMT -5
The mysteries of the knuckle ball are yet to be solved. Even Wakefield had no clue what it was going to do once it left his hand. A guy in the 3rd row could sneeze and cause the ball to skid. Or a bird flying by. I do know that no wind at all is not good. A knuckle ball depends on air hitting the seams in some fashion. Then, it does what it does. It's more like a quantum ball ie. It makes no sense, it is what it is. (sort of like my wife, but that's another story) I don't think this is entirely accurate. Unlike every other pitch, a knuckleball doesn't have any backspin because as it's about to leave your hand you flick your fingers to get a forward-like spin. That's why you sometimes hear the announcers talk about a knuckleball tumbling: the ball is actually spinning forward at a slight rate. And, conversely, sometimes why a knuckleball floats is that is has a little bit of backspin left. The reason they're unpredictable to even the pitcher is that each pitch will have a slightly different rate of rotation either forward or backwards and side to side. Similar to every other pitch-type no two are thrown at exactly the same velocity, rate of rotation, etc., which causes all pitches to move different relative to an identical pitch-type. Knuckleballs seem to operate in the extreme in that the low velocity coupled with the very slight variance in rotation can make them move all over the place.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 8, 2016 18:38:46 GMT -5
I'll take the Joe Kelly that just struck out Donaldson any time.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 8, 2016 18:40:53 GMT -5
Kelly basically has two pitches, the high fastball and the even higher fastball.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 8, 2016 18:44:16 GMT -5
Kelly basically has two pitches, the high fastball and the even higher fastball. Seems very on purpose at this point. Hannigan is half standing up on half the pitches. I'll bet they're guessing on aggressiveness early for the home opener. Worked on Donaldson, not for anyone else.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 8, 2016 18:44:23 GMT -5
JBJ still throwing that football?
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Post by thursty on Apr 8, 2016 18:50:48 GMT -5
It's almost as if the Cleveland series was still spring training
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 8, 2016 19:05:18 GMT -5
Would have been good to see Farrell challenge Ramirez' hit, but I understand why he didn't. Very close and it could easily have burned it for the game.
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Post by thursty on Apr 8, 2016 19:09:39 GMT -5
Xander. Sigh
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Post by thursty on Apr 8, 2016 19:13:25 GMT -5
tremendous play by Shaw
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 8, 2016 19:13:29 GMT -5
Incredible play Shaw!!!
Well done. Saved a tough spot there with Donaldson on deck.
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