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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 13, 2016 15:57:35 GMT -5
Every year I am interested in who is going to be the first prospect to earn a promotion. Just a quick glance at 2015's transactions shows that it was Ty Buttrey who went from Greenville to Salem last year on May 1st.
I know we have barely started the minor league schedules, but I thought the community might like to speculate who they think will get the first promotion this year. I'm not even certain who the most obvious candidates are. Buttrey was repeating low A so that would have probably put him on a short list of guys who would have been considered a good candidate for early promotion, given good performance of course.
Before the injury I would have possibly considered Michael Kopech as a guy who might start in Low A an and get an early-ish ticket to Salem. Of the top twenty prospects none of them jump off the page as obvious candidates to get an early promotion.
I know it is still several weeks away but...who do you think will get the first promotion? |
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 13, 2016 16:02:13 GMT -5
Josh Rutledge
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Post by klostrophobic on Apr 13, 2016 16:07:20 GMT -5
Well, does Josh Rutledge count? In terms of actual prospects (players who haven't been to MLB yet, so not including Vazquez, Marrero, et al) I'm betting on Moncada or Benintendi to get bumped to Portland pretty quickly. Neither one is blocked in any meaningful way (Rijo, Ramos, Sturgeon, Rosario in Portland are just placeholders most likely) so that's not a consideration and they're both obviously not challenged in Hi-A.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 13, 2016 16:11:33 GMT -5
Well, does Josh Rutledge count? In terms of actual prospects (players who haven't been to MLB yet, so not including Vazquez, Marrero, et al) I'm betting on Moncada or Benintendi to get bumped to Portland pretty quickly. Neither one is blocked in any meaningful way (Rijo, Ramos, Sturgeon, Rosario in Portland are just placeholders most likely) so that's not a consideration and they're both obviously not challenged in Hi-A. Your thoughts are similar to mine. I would not include Vazquez as he is technically working his way back to the level he was at prior to his injury. I guess we could generally exclude anyone on the 40 man. But hey, if you want to make a case as to why we should count Henry Owens or Brian Johnson, have fun with the topic. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 13, 2016 16:42:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't count anyone who moved up strictly because of injury to someone else. The fun part about guessing on the first promotion is figuring out who cannot be held down because he's not being challenged.
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Post by radiohix on Apr 13, 2016 17:02:36 GMT -5
My dark horse would be Henry Ramos: If he gets hot for like 2 weeks, they'll move him to AAA, because of injuries he spent too much time in AA.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Apr 13, 2016 17:54:37 GMT -5
The Sox kept these two in A+ over 60 games.
JBJ: 300 PA, .359/.480 /.526
Ells: 280 PA, .299 /.379/.418
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 13, 2016 18:06:48 GMT -5
The Sox kept these two in A+ over 60 games. JBJ: 300 PA, .359/.480 /.526 Ells: 280 PA, .299 /.379/.418 Bradley's placement in Salem at the time was actually considered slightly aggressive - they had their other college draftee (Barnes) starting the year in Greenville. That Ellsbury line doesn't scream "call me up now!" Of course, the next year he absolutely battered Portland (.452/.518/.644) and was promoted after only 17 games. |
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Post by burythehammer on Apr 13, 2016 20:20:03 GMT -5
I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb and say Neo is the first promotion among the top 10.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 14, 2016 10:30:53 GMT -5
I disagree that Rijo is a placeholder in AA. While Moncada wouldn't be "blocked" by him, maybe they give Moncada some time at 3rd or the OF? It's not like he's going to play 2B for Boston in 2016 or 2017 anyways, and it's AA where they usually start trying guys at different positions (Mookie to CF)
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Post by okin15 on Apr 14, 2016 10:36:01 GMT -5
I disagree that Rijo is a placeholder in AA. While Moncada wouldn't be "blocked" by him, maybe they give Moncada some time at 3rd or the OF? It's not like he's going to play 2B for Boston in 2016 or 2017 anyways, and it's AA where they usually start trying guys at different positions (Mookie to CF) Although they've made a point about wanting to get a guy comfortable at AA before moving him usually. But could be a different case if a player is "blocked" Could also be that they split time at DH and 2B for a while before they start changing positions around. |
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Post by mandelbro on Apr 14, 2016 10:46:39 GMT -5
I disagree that Rijo is a placeholder in AA. While Moncada wouldn't be "blocked" by him, maybe they give Moncada some time at 3rd or the OF? It's not like he's going to play 2B for Boston in 2016 or 2017 anyways, and it's AA where they usually start trying guys at different positions (Mookie to CF) Agreed. Rijo isn't a flashy prospect but a 20 year old 2B in AA is on track to make it to the big leagues really. He's not organizational fodder. |
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Post by okin15 on Apr 14, 2016 11:14:03 GMT -5
My dark horse would be Henry Ramos: If he gets hot for like 2 weeks, they'll move him to AAA, because of injuries he spent too much time in AA. Ramos and Witte are my most-likely's |
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 14, 2016 11:55:29 GMT -5
Torey Lovullo.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 14, 2016 23:40:48 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Cole Sturgeon.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 16, 2016 19:37:16 GMT -5
It really should be Benintendi. I'm starting to think I underrated him and he's 2nd in the system, if not the top guy. Seems like his hit tool is insanely good, and recent scouting video posted by the site only supports that notion. At the least, he's not currently being challenged.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 16, 2016 20:08:03 GMT -5
I'm sure the Sox will give it a little more time but, yes, they should move him if he continues to mash. He hasn't really been challenged since he came into the system and he needs to see pitching that might do that. Temple told us the had the chops and that was no joke.
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Post by larrycook on Apr 16, 2016 20:15:25 GMT -5
I am absolutely sure benintendi goes to Portland when the weather gets a bit warmer.
His swing, approach and game plan in the batters box is too advanced for high a ball.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 17, 2016 14:29:13 GMT -5
Huh. Who had Matt Kent?
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Post by telson13 on Apr 17, 2016 21:16:27 GMT -5
I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb and say Neo is the first promotion among the top 10. I don't agree, but I respect the bold prediction and I hope like bell you're right. I think Benintendi will be the first, even though I know it's a pretty lame, CW choice. He just screams MLB this year to me. He'd also free Holt up to take on his true all-utility role again (at a time when he has historically worn down), and probably provide similar defense. Edit: *hell* |
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Post by telson13 on Apr 17, 2016 21:19:50 GMT -5
*prospect* Edit: oops, guess that wasn't specified. Technically, could you say it was Brakeman? |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 17, 2016 22:06:32 GMT -5
Well, Kent had, imo, the first legit "promotion." In other words, not the Sturgeon/M.Miller "we need a guy so let's bring up a dude who can field the position while we wait for reinforcements" call-up. But that said, he's not in Salem if McGrath doesn't get hurt, so maybe he does fall into that category too.
When Brakeman wasn't with Greenville to start the year, we wonder if it might just be a way to keep his innings down artificially, although he was with "Lowell" in minor league camp, which was REALLY strange given that with his pedigree, he should have been competing for a spot in Salem, never mind not even in competition for a spot in Greenville. Looks like they're going to bring him along slowly, although I guess he did throw 80 pitches today.
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Post by sibbysisti on Apr 18, 2016 7:50:57 GMT -5
Not too early to add Aaron Wilkerson to that list. He's 17 - 4 lifetime in minors (3 seasons) with a 2.52 era and more than a K per inning. Had an outstanding game yesterday, 6IP,2 H, 5K 0 R. Plus, he's 26 and needs to be challenged at a higher level.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 18, 2016 9:57:37 GMT -5
Wilkerson. I'd love to see more scouting on this guy. Don't know how he's doing it, but he is doing it. 136 innings between Salem and Portland, 96 hits, 142 Ks, 37 walks. That's easy enough to ignore in A+, less so in AA. I'd like to know if he's got command of his pitches to go with the control, and what those pitches are.
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Post by theolearyfactor on Apr 18, 2016 12:18:35 GMT -5
Chavis has had a strong showing in his first 10 games in Greenville. At 20 y/o he's still young for low-A. How much longer til he gets the bump up to Salem?
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