nomar
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Hanigan
Apr 14, 2016 9:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Apr 14, 2016 9:08:27 GMT -5
If we trade him, who would you want in return?
Texas looks like a good fit. I would go for Ronald Guzman. He's been a disappointment, but like Devers, hasn't physically matured yet. If he grows into his giant 6'5 frame, the power will come. We know he can hit for average. Good risk to take IMO especially with our DH insecurity after this year. We're not going to get someone like Luis Ortiz for Hanigan.
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Hanigan
Apr 14, 2016 12:47:51 GMT -5
Post by pokeyreesespieces on Apr 14, 2016 12:47:51 GMT -5
Detroit could be another option with McCann out 2-4. (not quite the same need, but DD's familiarity is clearly there).
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Hanigan
Jul 19, 2016 12:14:59 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 19, 2016 12:14:59 GMT -5
I would look into trading him. Considering he's not a rental I would think we could get back a decent prospect. A 4/5 starting pitcher prospect that is near major league ready would be nice to add depth for the next couple of years.
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Hanigan
Jul 19, 2016 12:44:38 GMT -5
Post by manfred on Jul 19, 2016 12:44:38 GMT -5
I like Hanigan, but I cannot imagine he would bring much return. He is a month from 36, and he has had an OPS above .650 once in the last 4 years. His defense is good, but I don't see him as a glove-first type. I'd rather keep him, have him back up Leon as long as the latter is raking. Let Vasquez spend the remainder of the year in AAA (or September call up). It is not like he is showing evidence of hitting at all.
Going forward, I really hope they put Swihart back behind the plate. If he could be an average defender, he'd be a great piece. He seems borderline valueless right now as a left fielder -- not enough bat to stick. At least at catcher he goes back to being a valuable trade option, too.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 19, 2016 13:06:46 GMT -5
With a bunch of teams needing catching I think you can get a return that make it worth it to trade him. I see no reason to have both Vasquez and Hanigan on the 40 man roster. Vasquez is better defensively so I would rather have him in majors, more time in minors is not going to improve his hitting. Swihart is about to start rehab, so you would have a 3rd catcher in case of emergency.
In this market, with a lot of teams needing catching and the price through the roof on the one really good one, I really think we could get a decent prospect that could help our back end starter depth over the next couple of years. I also want to clear a spot on 40 man roster.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 19, 2016 13:11:06 GMT -5
I like Hanigan, but I cannot imagine he would bring much return. He is a month from 36, and he has had an OPS above .650 once in the last 4 years. His defense is good, but I don't see him as a glove-first type. I'd rather keep him, have him back up Leon as long as the latter is raking. I think Hanigan would bring back a B-/C+ prospect. I agree, though, that it is probably best to keep him and consider trading him in the offseason, if his option is picked up. I think Dombrowski is not looking to sell a catcher at this time. |
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Hanigan
Jul 20, 2016 10:42:42 GMT -5
Post by dmaineah on Jul 20, 2016 10:42:42 GMT -5
I like Hanigan, but I cannot imagine he would bring much return. He is a month from 36, and he has had an OPS above .650 once in the last 4 years. His defense is good, but I don't see him as a glove-first type. I'd rather keep him, have him back up Leon as long as the latter is raking. Let Vasquez spend the remainder of the year in AAA (or September call up). It is not like he is showing evidence of hitting at all. Going forward, I really hope they put Swihart back behind the plate. If he could be an average defender, he'd be a great piece. He seems borderline valueless right now as a left fielder -- not enough bat to stick. At least at catcher he goes back to being a valuable trade option, too. Completely disagree about Swiharts Bat. Hannigan is a Major League Catcher with an option. He should bring back a nice return. My preference would be another Bullpen Arm for the stretch run. |
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Hanigan
Jul 20, 2016 10:58:37 GMT -5
Post by manfred on Jul 20, 2016 10:58:37 GMT -5
I like Hanigan, but I cannot imagine he would bring much return. He is a month from 36, and he has had an OPS above .650 once in the last 4 years. His defense is good, but I don't see him as a glove-first type. I'd rather keep him, have him back up Leon as long as the latter is raking. Let Vasquez spend the remainder of the year in AAA (or September call up). It is not like he is showing evidence of hitting at all. Going forward, I really hope they put Swihart back behind the plate. If he could be an average defender, he'd be a great piece. He seems borderline valueless right now as a left fielder -- not enough bat to stick. At least at catcher he goes back to being a valuable trade option, too. Completely disagree about Swiharts Bat. Hannigan is a Major League Catcher with an option. He should bring back a nice return. My preference would be another Bullpen Arm for the stretch run. You might be right -- maybe I phrased it poorly. I think Swihart is going to be a decent hitter. But in left field, he is just ok -- likely about what Brock Holt is (another player whose value is diminished when he is stuck in that position). At catcher, he becomes significantly more valuable. I wonder where this page would have ranked him as a prospect coming up if he'd always been a left fielder -- I suspect far lower than he ranked as a catcher. In theory, I agree on Hanigan -- and with amfox that he might bring a B-/C+ prospect. But in practice -- I don't know who the trading partner is that gives value greater than he has by staying. Maybe the Pirates? I don't know. The best thing about trading him is opening a slot on the 40-man roster. But who what catcher takes his place on the big league roster? In a way, the Hanigan debate may be as much a Vasquez debate. I am not sanguine about his contribution this year, so I hold Hanigan. |
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Post by ryantoworkman on Jul 20, 2016 21:16:43 GMT -5
You can't judge Swihart as a LF until he's had time to mature his offensive game. The hours he put in behind the dish retarded his offense. I see a sweet swung with power yet to emerge.
That said, I want him Catching next year. With AB in LF they could be plus at all 9 positions, and that's tough to beat.
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Hanigan
Jul 20, 2016 22:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Jul 20, 2016 22:40:02 GMT -5
Seems like several teams are looking for catchers. Is there a market for hanigan, once lucroy has been moved?
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Hanigan
Jul 21, 2016 10:58:14 GMT -5
Post by sox fan in nc on Jul 21, 2016 10:58:14 GMT -5
I like Hanigan, but I cannot imagine he would bring much return. He is a month from 36, and he has had an OPS above .650 once in the last 4 years. His defense is good, but I don't see him as a glove-first type. I'd rather keep him, have him back up Leon as long as the latter is raking. I think Hanigan would bring back a B-/C+ prospect. I agree, though, that it is probably best to keep him and consider trading him in the offseason, if his option is picked up. I think Dombrowski is not looking to sell a catcher at this time. Agree with the offseason move. Leon is a foul tip away from a DL. With Holt back & Benintendi coming up no later than spring, Swihart can concentrate on catching. He just won't be ready in the near future. Even Brentz hasn't embarrassed himself in LF. |
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Hanigan
Jul 21, 2016 16:05:51 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 21, 2016 16:05:51 GMT -5
I have to say your being a little harsh on Swihart and his catching. It's just not that bad, he can certainly play in majors when healthy right now. The Boston media blew up about Swihart and his D because some how they all believed Vazquez would magically make our bad pitchers better. It didn't happen. Man talk about overreacting to a couple missed pop ups. If I was Boston I would feel great if Swihart was my 3rd catcher, that's great depth. If Leon gets hurt, I like a Swihart/Vazquez pairing more than Vazquez/Hanigan pairing.
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Hanigan
Jul 22, 2016 12:39:45 GMT -5
Post by jdb on Jul 22, 2016 12:39:45 GMT -5
I think Hanigan is an offseason decision. I like him and his AL East experience a good bit though. My hope is we go into next year with a Swihart and Vaz combo and split time until one earns the position. I'm really curious about Leon and how legit this batting stance tweak is. If he finishes strong we could have a good depth problem .
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Hanigan
Jul 23, 2016 20:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Jul 23, 2016 20:26:18 GMT -5
I am perfectly fine going into next year with Leon and Vazquez at catcher, if swihart is part of a package to get us sale.
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Hanigan
Jul 26, 2016 6:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by scarr0214 on Jul 26, 2016 6:27:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't give anything up for Hanigan if I were a GM. When you're hitting under.200 you have no value to me. Hanigan is solid defensive catcher but I'd take a guy like Ruiz from Philadelphia before Hanigan who can at least hit over .240, and his price would be a couple longshot prospects.
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