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Post by grandsalami on May 20, 2016 12:18:19 GMT -5
“ evandrellich: Blake Swihart and Noe Ramirez recalled. Carson Smith to the DL with elbow soreness, Brock Holt to concussion DL with a minor concussion.” Should have its own thread |
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Post by grandsalami on May 20, 2016 12:18:55 GMT -5
“@brianmacp: The promotion of Blake Swihart tells us all we really need to know about how the Red Sox view Rusney Castillo’s singles-heavy hot streak.”
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Post by Legion of Bloom on May 20, 2016 12:31:29 GMT -5
Noe Ramirez has no business being up, watch Farrell use him with the game on the line tonight.
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Post by sox fan in nc on May 20, 2016 12:46:51 GMT -5
I guess it was either Noe or Varvaro. I thought Kyle Martin should get a shot, but he's not on the 40.
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Post by radiohix on May 20, 2016 13:03:59 GMT -5
Noe Ramirez has no business being up, watch Farrell use him with the game on the line tonight. He'll be up for like 8 hours and they'll activate Kelly and send him to Pawtucket just after the game. |
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Post by bosox81 on May 20, 2016 13:06:25 GMT -5
Which is worse: Young vs righties or Swihart in LF? I honestly don't know since I haven't watched Swihart play LF.
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Post by tjb21 on May 20, 2016 13:37:56 GMT -5
Ah so the Blake Swihart experiment in LF is fully activated.
I blame templeu.
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Post by theghostofjoecronin on May 20, 2016 15:01:42 GMT -5
Interesting move as you would think Castillo would get the nod so that Swihart can get more reps in LF (and catcher, for that matter).
Quite a bit of money being wasted in AAA...regardless I hope Swihart does well in his short stint so we can flip him for a starting pitcher.
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Post by rollsoxroll on May 20, 2016 15:12:34 GMT -5
Interesting move as you would think Castillo would get the nod so that Swihart can get more reps in LF (and catcher, for that matter). Quite a bit of money being wasted in AAA...regardless I hope Swihart does well in his short stint so we can flip him for a starting pitcher. Swihart can hit left handed. It's as simple as that. Oh, that and Castillo cannot hit left or right handed... |
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Post by ericmvan on May 20, 2016 15:49:22 GMT -5
They seemed to have abandoned the Marco Hernandez in LF experiment after one game (4/25).
Does anyone have info on how Shaw looked there in ST? Because him in LF and Hernandez at 3B might be better than Swihart in LF. It would at least be nice to have as an option.
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2016 16:02:33 GMT -5
They seemed to have abandoned the Marco Hernandez in LF experiment after one game (4/25). Does anyone have info on how Shaw looked there in ST? Because him in LF and Hernandez at 3B might be better than Swihart in LF. It would at least be nice to have as an option. I think Shaw was scheduled to start his first game in LF right when Pablo got hurt (I think hamstring) so he never made it out there. I have no clue about how he looked in practice. |
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Post by mattpicard on May 20, 2016 16:06:06 GMT -5
They seemed to have abandoned the Marco Hernandez in LF experiment after one game (4/25). Does anyone have info on how Shaw looked there in ST? Because him in LF and Hernandez at 3B might be better than Swihart in LF. It would at least be nice to have as an option. Given how well Shaw has played at third, I'd be shocked if they experimented with him in LF this season. He didn't make an appearances in the outfield this spring -- He played a few games in left last season in Pawtucket, plus a three inning cameo there in Boston. |
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Post by grandsalami on May 20, 2016 16:06:20 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Swihart won’t catch in the big leagues during this callup. Will platoon in LF w/Young”
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Post by theghostofjoecronin on May 20, 2016 16:09:23 GMT -5
Interesting move as you would think Castillo would get the nod so that Swihart can get more reps in LF (and catcher, for that matter). Quite a bit of money being wasted in AAA...regardless I hope Swihart does well in his short stint so we can flip him for a starting pitcher. Swihart can hit left handed. It's as simple as that. Oh, that and Castillo cannot hit left or right handed... At the very least Castillo brings solid defense in LF, and he had been hitting better as of late...it made sense to call him up for a week to see if he's made any improvements at the plate. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2016 16:24:26 GMT -5
Really dumb to go with Swihart over Castillo.
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Post by jmei on May 20, 2016 16:25:12 GMT -5
Swihart needs to be an average or better defender in LF from day one to justify his being up over Castillo. With his athleticism (and the fact that he's had experience in the OF as an amateur), that's very possible and perhaps even likely. But, even if he's up for just the seven days, he needs to be appreciably better than Castillo on the whole for it to be worth putting aside the defensive reps he needs at catcher for this field trip in LF, and I'm not sure that's true.
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Post by grandsalami on May 20, 2016 16:26:52 GMT -5
Swihart needs to be an average or better defender in LF from day one to justify his being up over Castillo. With his athleticism (and the fact that he's had experience in the OF as an amateur), that's very possible and perhaps even likely. But, even if he's up for just the seven days, he needs to be appreciably better than Castillo on the whole for it to be worth putting aside the defensive reps he needs at catcher for this field trip in LF, and I'm not sure that's true. Castillo is gone by the end of June. IMO |
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Post by jmei on May 20, 2016 16:29:25 GMT -5
For what it's worth (and it might be worth very little):
ZiPS projections:
Swihart: 78 wRC+
Castillo: 83 wRC+
Steamer projections:
Swihart: 88 wRC+
Castillo: 87 wRC+
Now, the fact that the role available is only versus RHP affects things, and I'd believe the argument that the projections are wrong the Swihart is a notch better hitter than Castillo at this point in time. But, if it's at all close, wouldn't you rather Blake stay in AAA and work on his catcher defense than be called up for maybe three or four starts in LF while Holt is on the seven-day concussion DL?
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Post by jmei on May 20, 2016 16:31:38 GMT -5
Swihart needs to be an average or better defender in LF from day one to justify his being up over Castillo. With his athleticism (and the fact that he's had experience in the OF as an amateur), that's very possible and perhaps even likely. But, even if he's up for just the seven days, he needs to be appreciably better than Castillo on the whole for it to be worth putting aside the defensive reps he needs at catcher for this field trip in LF, and I'm not sure that's true. Castillo is gone by the end of June. IMO Why would they do that when he has options left and their MLB-ready OF depth is so thin? Remember, as recently as Spring Training, he was their (and our) presumptive starter in LF. There is no reasonable case for his value deserving to have dropped so much so quickly. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2016 16:33:16 GMT -5
Swihart has played how many games in LF? It doesn't really matter who projects to do what. I'd go the safe route with sure defense and let Swihart develop as a catcher.
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Post by ryantoworkman on May 20, 2016 16:46:54 GMT -5
They seemed to have abandoned the Marco Hernandez in LF experiment after one game (4/25). Does anyone have info on how Shaw looked there in ST? Because him in LF and Hernandez at 3B might be better than Swihart in LF. It would at least be nice to have as an option. I don't think Shaw in LF ever came to pass. I saw a report that said it would happen in the coming week, then two days later Farrell was quoted as calling 3B an open tryout. I think Shaw pretty much stayed at 3B after that announcement. I do wonder if this isn't really a showcase for a potential Swihart deal? Bring him up, let him show interested teams that he can indeed handle a 2nd position, and he's marketed as a potential AS C, who can also play LF for you. The timing of this has me wondering. <<placing tin foil hat back in box now>> |
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Post by theghostofjoecronin on May 20, 2016 18:51:58 GMT -5
They seemed to have abandoned the Marco Hernandez in LF experiment after one game (4/25). Does anyone have info on how Shaw looked there in ST? Because him in LF and Hernandez at 3B might be better than Swihart in LF. It would at least be nice to have as an option. I don't think Shaw in LF ever came to pass. I saw a report that said it would happen in the coming week, then two days later Farrell was quoted as calling 3B an open tryout. I think Shaw pretty much stayed at 3B after that announcement.
I do wonder if this isn't really a showcase for a potential Swihart deal? Bring him up, let him show interested teams that he can indeed handle a 2nd position, and he's marketed as a potential AS C, who can also play LF for you. The timing of this has me wondering.
<<placing tin foil hat back in box now>> I think that's spot on...otherwise it doesn't make much sense to call-up Swihart over Castillo especially since it was said that Swihart would not catch at all, only play LF. |
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Post by ryantoworkman on May 20, 2016 23:21:50 GMT -5
I don't think Shaw in LF ever came to pass. I saw a report that said it would happen in the coming week, then two days later Farrell was quoted as calling 3B an open tryout. I think Shaw pretty much stayed at 3B after that announcement.
I do wonder if this isn't really a showcase for a potential Swihart deal? Bring him up, let him show interested teams that he can indeed handle a 2nd position, and he's marketed as a potential AS C, who can also play LF for you. The timing of this has me wondering.
<<placing tin foil hat back in box now>> I think that's spot on...otherwise it doesn't make much sense to call-up Swihart over Castillo especially since it was said that Swihart would not catch at all, only play LF. Upon reflection, and with the realization there were two plays last week when Holt could have jostled his cranium, I'm now thinking this is more about deploying the best option available. Playoffs and championships are always the first priority. Swihart is simply the best internal option for this assignment. It's quite possible he retains the position and Holt returns as SU after the 7 day CDL stint. They are a better team if Swihart can get anywhere close to league average while manning the LH side of the platoon. Also having a 3rd C on the roster is never a bad thing; it allows Farrell to PH at his weakest offensive position; something they rarely do while carrying just two Catchers. It's not the best for Swiharr, but it might be the best move the team can make. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 23, 2016 9:19:57 GMT -5
I guess it was either Noe or Varvaro. I thought Kyle Martin should get a shot, but he's not on the 40. 40-man isn't an issue at this point. There are only 39 on the roster and Sean Coyle could very easily be DFA'ed, considering they've gone so far as to demote him to Double-A. Bryce Brentz is also a guy you wouldn't really be too upset about DFA'ing at this point, although he's starting to shake the rust off a bit (last 9 gms: .375/.429/.469, although no HR which makes me think, especially for him, this is driven by a luck-based .480 BABIP, not a hot streak in which he's lacing the ball and earning the BABIP). As others have stated, it was Ramirez because it was a one-game move. I'm with you in that the next time the Red Sox legitimately need a bullpen arm, I'd like Martin to get a look. |
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Post by klostrophobic on May 23, 2016 11:08:57 GMT -5
Swihart needs to be an average or better defender in LF from day one to justify his being up over Castillo. With his athleticism (and the fact that he's had experience in the OF as an amateur), that's very possible and perhaps even likely. But, even if he's up for just the seven days, he needs to be appreciably better than Castillo on the whole for it to be worth putting aside the defensive reps he needs at catcher for this field trip in LF, and I'm not sure that's true. Castillo is gone by the end of June. IMO Where is he gonna go? He's a replacement level player making 11 million a year. |
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