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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 24, 2016 23:24:52 GMT -5
Well late to the party but I just wanted to say tonight we ENTER SANDYMAN!!!
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Post by jerryu on Jun 24, 2016 23:26:37 GMT -5
It's nice to see positive comments about Ferrell.
Jerryu
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Post by jerryu on Jun 24, 2016 23:28:08 GMT -5
It's nice to see positive comments about Ferrsll. Jerryu
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 24, 2016 23:50:22 GMT -5
Farrell is a boss, he will get fired at the end of the year most likely and will continue to have a good career in the MLB, maybe even winning another WS before Joe Maddon gets anywhere near it. Book it.
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Post by rangoon82 on Jun 24, 2016 23:54:45 GMT -5
Tonight was the first time Ive seen this. Fantastic stuff here.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 25, 2016 0:09:27 GMT -5
If they had done that with Bradley or Bogaerts when they struggled where would the team be now? He was laid up for a year and that does mean something, all the short-term thinking aside. Add: Leon has made that decision for them. He's had the classic catchers' trajectory, maturing in his mid/late 20s. Hanigan is likely trade-bait at this point. Serviceable backstops always have value, even those with noodle bats. No disrespect or anything, but isn't it a little early to decide anything on Leon, he only has about 5 games worth of at bats?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 25, 2016 0:10:28 GMT -5
If they had done that with Bradley or Bogaerts when they struggled where would the team be now? He was laid up for a year and that does mean something, all the short-term thinking aside. Add: Leon has made that decision for them. He's had the classic catchers' trajectory, maturing in his mid/late 20s. Hanigan is likely trade-bait at this point. Serviceable backstops always have value, even those with noodle bats. Short-term I think Vazquez is the right call at catcher. I'm not that huge a believer in his bat. Never really have been, but I think he will improve and I think he could have a Ruiz type of career. I've simply always thought of Swihart as the better all around catching prospect. He isn't the right call at catcher now. His defense needs more work. That's why I wasn't too upset when they sent him down. I was hoping they'd work on his defense. Instead LF became too big a hole and they brought him up to try to plug it up. I guess it was best for the team, but not the best for his development, but next year should be a different story. There should be time for him to work on his catching. Ultimately I think his strong bat (for a catcher) and average defense (I think it can ascend to average) will be a bigger asset than a good defensive catcher with mediocre offense. I've always thought this way regardless of whether Vazquez struggled with the bat or not.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 25, 2016 0:11:27 GMT -5
Tonight was the first time Ive seen this. Fantastic stuff here. It's the first time with Brentz involved, but they've been doing this take a picture routine in the outfield all season long.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 25, 2016 0:25:13 GMT -5
If they had done that with Bradley or Bogaerts when they struggled where would the team be now? He was laid up for a year and that does mean something, all the short-term thinking aside. Add: Leon has made that decision for them. He's had the classic catchers' trajectory, maturing in his mid/late 20s. Hanigan is likely trade-bait at this point. Serviceable backstops always have value, even those with noodle bats. Short-term I think Vazquez is the right call at catcher. I'm not that huge a believer in his bat. Never really have been, but I think he will improve and I think he could have a Ruiz type of career. I've simply always thought of Swihart as the better all around catching prospect. He isn't the right call at catcher now. His defense needs more work. That's why I wasn't too upset when they sent him down. I was hoping they'd work on his defense. Instead LF became too big a hole and they brought him up to try to plug it up. I guess it was best for the team, but not the best for his development, but next year should be a different story. There should be time for him to work on his catching. Ultimately I think his strong bat (for a catcher) and average defense (I think it can ascend to average) will be a bigger asset than a good defensive catcher with mediocre offense. I've always thought this way regardless of whether Vazquez struggled with the bat or not. I understand. A lot of people on the board feel that way about Swihart. But he needs a load of work behind the plate. He's a very gifted athlete, but he doesn't have the instincts that develop from years of practice. That's really what being an "expert" is, in my mind: someone who's practiced something so often that the routine becomes instinctive. Vazquez is much better and Leon came with a defense-first rep as well, one he seems to be in the process of shedding. He's not going to hit anywhere near this well, but he doesn't have to come close to get a shot. Catching skills are so valuable, they supersede all but the most potent bats. Swihart is going to be a good one, but right now the team needs those catching chops, and they may have them in hand.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2016 6:26:31 GMT -5
OK, I'll admit it - I checked put after the7th.
Great (wtf) win!
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 25, 2016 7:17:03 GMT -5
Remember the days when we used to say "If only our batters could hit against our pitching"..? There are times that it feels like that again this year.
Great win...but goodness David! Who wudda thunk it that Wright would be the ace. Maybe instead of E-rod copying Price in his set-up and delivery, Price should copy E-Rod's. Once Rodriguez got back to his prior delivery, his velo picked up and he became more effective. I am going to hate to see this version of Price and his albatross salary for the next 7 years.
There is no way we are going to go the distance with this pitching staff and I don't want to decimate the farm to chase that dream this year.
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 25, 2016 9:23:23 GMT -5
Rangers lead all of MLB in winning more games than their stats say they should have: 9.0. They've also had an easy schedule, adding another 2.5 wins. When you adjust their schedule, they've been outplayed by their opponents (.488 BaseRuns). They're an insane 17-7 in 1-run and extra-inning games, and they've also hit and pitched better with RISP than without. We're up to 10-12 in 1-run and extra-inning games, but we're still second-worst in MLB in win efficiency, at -5.7 wins versus the stats. A big part of that is the pitchers having big unfavorable splits by leverage, and (to a lesser extent) bad ones RISP versus not. Our OPS+ allowed is 86 in low-leverage, 106 in high. The difference ranks 23rd in MLB. Regress to the mean right now, Texas. Last night's game closed 1.1 games of the karma gap. The Rangers went from +9.0 to +8.5 and we went from -5.7 to -5.1.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2016 9:50:20 GMT -5
Didn't do much for the dogma gap on the starters, however.
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Post by nomar on Jun 25, 2016 10:08:41 GMT -5
Regress to the mean right now, Texas. Last night's game closed 1.1 games of the karma gap. The Rangers went from +9.0 to +8.5 and we went from -5.7 to -5.1. We're on our way
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 25, 2016 10:15:02 GMT -5
Didn't do much for the dogma gap on the starters, however. Last night the team karma ran over Farrell's dogma. Will be curious as to whether they send down LeMarre and add a bullpen arm. I just argued for Wilkerson in his thread.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 25, 2016 10:19:39 GMT -5
Remember the days when we used to say "If only our batters could hit against our pitching"..? There are times that it feels like that again this year. Great win...but goodness David! Who wudda thunk it that Wright would be the ace. Maybe instead of E-rod copying Price in his set-up and delivery, Price should copy E-Rod's. Once Rodriguez got back to his prior delivery, his velo picked up and he became more effective. I am going to hate to see this version of Price and his albatross salary for the next 7 years. There is no way we are going to go the distance with this pitching staff and I don't want to decimate the farm to chase that dream this year. This team does remind me of the teams from the 70's. Hitting is great, pitching not so great. We differ in trading prospects. I'd do it,depending on the deal, because getting into the playoffs is worth the crap shoot for me. Sox have a good young core of hitters. Papi is gone after this year. Dustin will be a year older. I just can't dismiss the idea of dealing for pitching until I see the deal.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2016 11:19:07 GMT -5
Didn't do much for the dogma gap on the starters, however. Last night the team karma ran over Farrell's dogma. Will be curious as to whether they send down LeMarre and add a bullpen arm. I just argued for Wilkerson in his thread. I'd keep LaMarre over Marrero. He's probably a better fit for the roster, but more than that he's simply a better player in general right now. I also think I'd go to Martin, for two reasons: a) his peripherals are far stronger than his ERA, so I think he'd be pretty good; and b) I'd keep Wilkerson on rotation for if/when they need a starter.
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Post by bosox89 on Jun 25, 2016 11:36:54 GMT -5
9:20 ET? heck of a time for a ball game.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2016 11:38:01 GMT -5
Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week, which, since Wren is still ATL- based, might just be him sitting in the lux box he got in his buyout because no one in his family wants him at home. www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/06/24/onball/6eJr1Xadno6XbkhvSmzlGI/story.htmlAlso, my thought which I fleshed out more in the "improve the Sox" thread - if they took Markakis back with his sal, it would defray prospect cost and give them the LH LF platoon mate they've been seeking.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 25, 2016 12:21:00 GMT -5
Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week, which, since Wren is still ATL- based, might just be him sitting in the lux box he got in his buyout because no one in his family wants him at home. www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/06/24/onball/6eJr1Xadno6XbkhvSmzlGI/story.htmlAlso, my thought which I fleshed out more in the "improve the Sox" thread - if they took Markakis back with his sal, it would defray prospect cost and give them the LH LF platoon mate they've been seeking. Lhp Kopech? Another example of lazy reporting by Cafardo. Also, Wren still lives in Atlanta so it isn't a stretch for him see the Braves play. I would dead set against emptying the farm system for Teheran who is an extreme fly ball pitcher who will get crushed in the AL.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2016 12:49:29 GMT -5
Cuevas up, Marrero down. There are two or three guys I'd have gone to before Cuevas, especially given the 40-man flexibilty right now, but if they end up in a situation where they need multiple innings then it is fine.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 25, 2016 13:14:01 GMT -5
if they end up in a situation where they need multiple innings Thought we had our ace starting today, though.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2016 13:43:22 GMT -5
if they end up in a situation where they need multiple innings Thought we had our ace starting today, though. With the other starters, they need a long man in innings 3 through 7. With Wright it's innings 10 through 15ish.
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Post by thursty on Jun 25, 2016 13:50:52 GMT -5
"Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week"
I can think of no other sentence that strikes so much fear in my heart.
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Post by thursty on Jun 25, 2016 13:54:41 GMT -5
Oh, and I was very impressed with Profar; sure looked for awhile like he wasn't going to make it, but you can see why he was the #1 prospect a few years running. If only he can stay healthy
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