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6/24-6/26 Red Sox @ Rangers Series Thread
redsox04071318champs
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 25, 2016 15:56:47 GMT -5
"Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week" I can think of no other sentence that strikes so much fear in my heart. Bye, bye Devers. I hope the Sox are only looking at the reliever Vizcaino. Maybe then the Braves will let us keep Espinoza. Yeesh.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 25, 2016 16:06:17 GMT -5
Wren lives there. They have people scouting pretty much every team from A-ball to the majors. I don't read much into it
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 25, 2016 16:35:17 GMT -5
Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week, which, since Wren is still ATL- based, might just be him sitting in the lux box he got in his buyout because no one in his family wants him at home. www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/06/24/onball/6eJr1Xadno6XbkhvSmzlGI/story.htmlAlso, my thought which I fleshed out more in the "improve the Sox" thread - if they took Markakis back with his sal, it would defray prospect cost and give them the LH LF platoon mate they've been seeking. Lhp Kopech? Another example of lazy reporting by Cafardo. Also, Wren still lives in Atlanta so it isn't a stretch for him see the Braves play. I would dead set against emptying the farm system for Teheran who is an extreme fly ball pitcher who will get crushed in the AL. Curt Schilling did okay as fly ball pitcher in Fenway, and the AL.
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Post by Canseco on Jun 25, 2016 16:44:09 GMT -5
Hanley in the 5-hole again tonight. Dial 8 again and prove me wrong, please. Also, I'm drawing a blank... anyone remember Wake saying anything about how the knuckler does in the Texas heat?
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Post by larrycook on Jun 25, 2016 17:03:59 GMT -5
Hanley in the 5-hole again tonight. Sox desperately need some one to step up and protect Ortiz. My guess is until someone does Ortiz will be walking a lot.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 25, 2016 17:06:00 GMT -5
“@jcmccaffrey: Just saw a 10-year-old boy wearing an Eric Gagne 83 Red Sox shirsey and wow do I have so many questions.”
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2016 17:15:03 GMT -5
“@jcmccaffrey: Just saw a 10-year-old boy wearing an Eric Gagne 83 Red Sox shirsey and wow do I have so many questions.” gotta be from the thrift shop
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Post by Canseco on Jun 25, 2016 17:34:17 GMT -5
Hanley in the 5-hole again tonight. Sox desperately need some one to step up and protect Ortiz. My guess is until someone does Ortiz will be walking a lot. I know it probably isn't wise to screw with Mookie, and it probably isn't going to happen, but would the Sox give any thought to an order beginning with Bradley, Pedroia, Bogaerts, Ortiz, and Betts?
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Post by bosox81 on Jun 25, 2016 18:14:01 GMT -5
“@jcmccaffrey: Just saw a 10-year-old boy wearing an Eric Gagne 83 Red Sox shirsey and wow do I have so many questions.” gotta be from the thrift shop Or maybe the 10-year old wants to remind us all of the perils of midseason trades for relievers.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 25, 2016 18:34:43 GMT -5
I know it probably isn't wise to screw with Mookie, and it probably isn't going to happen, but would the Sox give any thought to an order beginning with Bradley, Pedroia, Bogaerts, Ortiz, and Betts? If by "The Sox" you mean John Farrell, then no. If by "The Sox" you mean some frustrated dude in the front office, probably yes. You've got Pedroia and Bogaerts the wrong way around, by the way. Better hitter should be 2nd.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 25, 2016 18:57:23 GMT -5
If by "The Sox" you mean John Farrell, then no. If by "The Sox" you mean some frustrated dude in the front office, probably yes. You've got Pedroia and Bogaerts the wrong way around, by the way. Better hitter should be 2nd. Is there a link or information that you could provide that would confirm this post? I would be interested in knowing how you know the front office is frustrated by his lineup. If not, this is scurrilous stuff.
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 25, 2016 19:01:24 GMT -5
I know it probably isn't wise to screw with Mookie, and it probably isn't going to happen, but would the Sox give any thought to an order beginning with Bradley, Pedroia, Bogaerts, Ortiz, and Betts? If by "The Sox" you mean John Farrell, then no. If by "The Sox" you mean some frustrated dude in the front office, probably yes. You've got Pedroia and Bogaerts the wrong way around, by the way. Better hitter should be 2nd. Bradley seems to like being the last dangerous hitter in the parade. I wouldn't mess with that now; he would get pitched to rather differently if he were ahead of Ortiz rather than behind him. Bogaerts, Pedroia, Ortiz, Betts, Bradley is an obvious top 5. According to sabermetrics, Pedroia isn't good enough to hit 2 and Papi is too good to hit 3, but what you lose is slight and is more than offset by Pedroia liking to hit in front of Ortiz, and by breaking up Ortiz and Bradley with a RHB. I think most MLB managers would already have made that change.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 25, 2016 19:10:28 GMT -5
If by "The Sox" you mean John Farrell, then no. If by "The Sox" you mean some frustrated dude in the front office, probably yes. You've got Pedroia and Bogaerts the wrong way around, by the way. Better hitter should be 2nd. Is there a link or information that you could provide that would confirm this post? I would be interested in knowing how you know the front office is frustrated by his lineup. If not, this is scurrilous stuff. Here you go.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 25, 2016 19:17:39 GMT -5
Is there a link or information that you could provide that would confirm this post? I would be interested in knowing how you know the front office is frustrated by his lineup. If not, this is scurrilous stuff. Here you go. I am not commenting on the merits of a lineup change, I was looking for verification on his knowledge that "some dude" in the front office was frustrated. Thanks for that information.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 25, 2016 19:58:13 GMT -5
If by "The Sox" you mean John Farrell, then no. If by "The Sox" you mean some frustrated dude in the front office, probably yes. You've got Pedroia and Bogaerts the wrong way around, by the way. Better hitter should be 2nd. Bradley seems to like being the last dangerous hitter in the parade. I wouldn't mess with that now; he would get pitched to rather differently if he were ahead of Ortiz rather than behind him. Bogaerts, Pedroia, Ortiz, Betts, Bradley is an obvious top 5. According to sabermetrics, Pedroia isn't good enough to hit 2 and Papi is too good to hit 3, but what you lose is slight and is more than offset by Pedroia liking to hit in front of Ortiz, and by breaking up Ortiz and Bradley with a RHB. I think most MLB managers would already have made that change. Truth or not, I don't know, but Farrell was on Daley & Holley last week and said Xander's feelings about the #3 slot are like his feelings about playing SS. They are not about to move him from where he's comfortable. Not sure I would either. If you want to swap Mookie and Pedey or bring Bradley up, whatever. I just don't think it will make a huge difference. What will help? A consistent and solid Hanley. Shaw being hot vs. not being hot. Somebody besides Brentz in LF (and hopefully not Holt, either, as he can play 4-5 days/week or more as a super utility guy making sure other guys get a day off here and there - without skipping a beat. Oh, and more Sandy Leon! If Milwaukee will trade Lucroy for Swihart, that'd be sweet. I'm not nearly as high on Swihart as most are. I'd drive him to the airport for that deal. Lucroy and Leon would be fine. CVaz could still be involved as Lucroy could play 1st and/or DH.
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 25, 2016 20:27:05 GMT -5
Hanley's been such a tease. After that horrendous slide from May 18 to June 11 (.169 / .270 / .182 in 89 PA / 20 GS), he went 4/9, HR, 3 BB in is next three games and there was hope he'd turned it around. Whereupon he hit .167 / .200 / .208 in his next 6 G (25 PA).
Now he's 4/13, 2 HR, BB in 3 games. Let's see if that's actually the start of something.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 25, 2016 20:32:03 GMT -5
"Cafardo reporting that Frank Wren is scouting ATL this week" I can think of no other sentence that strikes so much fear in my heart. Bye, bye Devers. I hope the Sox are only looking at the reliever Vizcaino. Maybe then the Braves will let us keep Espinoza. Yeesh. If they trade any of the top 4 for anything less than a superstar, I'm boycotting them for the rest of the year. Maybe next year, too, depending on how stupid the trade is.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2016 20:39:30 GMT -5
HanRam goes bam bam. Again.
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Post by bosox81 on Jun 25, 2016 20:41:36 GMT -5
Any day Tampa decides to not choke away leads vs Baltimore would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by atzar on Jun 25, 2016 20:52:17 GMT -5
Hell of a slide by Odor. Pedroia needs to slap that tag down though.
Terrific catch by Bradley. Kept this a 1-0 game.
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Post by bosox89 on Jun 25, 2016 20:52:23 GMT -5
"That's a great piece of sliding"
Shut it OB
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Post by atzar on Jun 25, 2016 21:03:52 GMT -5
Stop trying to kill our left fielders! Yeesh.
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Post by nomar on Jun 25, 2016 21:05:01 GMT -5
Hanley's been such a tease. After that horrendous slide from May 18 to June 11 (.169 / .270 / .182 in 89 PA / 20 GS), he went 4/9, HR, 3 BB in is next three games and there was hope he'd turned it around. Whereupon he hit .167 / .200 / .208 in his next 6 G (25 PA). Now he's 4/13, 2 HR, BB in 3 games. Let's see if that's actually the start of something. Doubt it. Still can't pull the ball with authority. Can't catch up to heat. If he gets hot here I deal him at the deadline.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 25, 2016 21:16:35 GMT -5
Lhp Kopech? Another example of lazy reporting by Cafardo. Also, Wren still lives in Atlanta so it isn't a stretch for him see the Braves play. I would dead set against emptying the farm system for Teheran who is an extreme fly ball pitcher who will get crushed in the AL. Curt Schilling did okay as fly ball pitcher in Fenway, and the AL. He was also a much better pitcher, and was not as extreme a fly-ball guy. Teheran's in the top 5 in baseball over the past three years, if I recall correctly. I could be wrong though...maybe Schilling was as extreme. Cafardo doesn't really report...it's mostly a nugget of reporting dressed up in a pile of his own uninformed opinion (presented as fact, of course...he loves sneaking in opinion disguised as factual "material.")
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Post by rangoon82 on Jun 25, 2016 21:18:46 GMT -5
Griffin's slow curve reminds me of Padilla's 'soap bubble' curve
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