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Post by joshv02 on Jul 1, 2016 7:00:31 GMT -5
This is neither the right thread nor the right board, but I'll write it succinctly so that jemi can quickly move it to some forum that isn't read. I only write this for posterity/people who care. I don't think you really want a conversation as the same thing has been said to you a half dozen times. You reduce people to single trait. Sometimes its race (Tanaka, Acosta, etc.), sometimes its something silly like the school they want to (Lavarnway). You then extrapolate from that single trait to something essential about the individual person ("Acosta was suspended because of his life in poverty!"; "Lavarnway will work hard and be smarter at pitch calling than anyone else!"). Its a very simply logic failure, and its compounded by more complicated issues that you treat like immutable qualities (like race or ethnicity). You keep getting it wrong, yet you keep doing it. Racist? Stupid? I don't really care which applies.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jul 1, 2016 8:46:23 GMT -5
Josh, You say 2 things in quotes which I didn't say? Don't quote people and then not even come close to the nuance of the other person's position. If your position doesn't stand on it's logic don't make stuff up and even put it in quotes. If you are going to quote me, make it accurate.
I did nothing wrong with my Acosta comments. Period. I cited some demographic and social interaction factors for Latino kids which might be factors. I don't reduce people to a "single trait". If anything, it's just the opposite. I cited a range of demographic factors which might be potential considerations.
I didn't imply he was lazy. I indicated sometimes that perception is there with latino kids, as it was for Roberto Clemente even, as great as he was. There can be language and cultural issues. I don't want to repeat myself. If some of you don't get it, I don't care. Just never quote me unless you do it accurately, and not in your own preconceived stereotypical way which is not even close to the nuance of my position.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 1, 2016 9:38:56 GMT -5
nuance of the other person's position LOL
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Post by gerry on Jul 1, 2016 12:23:28 GMT -5
Generally. it's just us southerners in general.. I'll be glad to broaden you're perspective on that. I've got one friend out here in rural Oregon who starts shaking whenever he talks about the president. A troubled soul, no doubt.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jul 1, 2016 14:06:16 GMT -5
nuance of the other person's position LOL Mr. positive chirps in. Never seen anyone he couldn't criticize regularly.
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