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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 15:09:43 GMT -5
Brock Holt was also acquired from the Pirates in the Hanrahan trade. He primarily plays 2B, but is capable of playing SS as well.
He hit .344 with 16 steals between AA and AAA last year, and hit .292 in 65 major league at-bats. I think he has potential to be a starting shortstop if he can improve his range. Drew is gone after one year, Bogaerts may not stay at short, and Iglesias still can't hit. Maybe Holt can be the shortstop of the future.
What will he amount to? What will his role be in 2013 and beyond? Do you like the acquisition of him?
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Post by remember04 on Dec 27, 2012 15:36:38 GMT -5
I like the acquisition because I think he replaces Ciraco sooner rather than later. IF he has a future in the MLB as a starter I think its at 2B and unfortunately that means for somebody else.
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Post by jioh on Dec 27, 2012 15:37:30 GMT -5
Brock Holt was also acquired from the Pirates in the Hanrahan trade. He primarily plays 2B, but is capable of playing SS as well. He hit .344 with 16 steals between AA and AAA last year, and hit .292 in 65 major league at-bats. I think he has potential to be a starting shortstop if he can improve his range. Drew is gone after one year, Bogaerts may not stay at short, and Iglesias still can't hit. Maybe Holt can be the shortstop of the future. What will he amount to? What will his role be in 2013 and beyond? Do you like the acquisition of him? How many guys his age ever improve their range at SS? UTIL at best.
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 27, 2012 15:42:18 GMT -5
Brock Holt was also acquired from the Pirates in the Hanrahan trade. He primarily plays 2B, but is capable of playing SS as well. He hit .344 with 16 steals between AA and AAA last year, and hit .292 in 65 major league at-bats. I think he has potential to be a starting shortstop if he can improve his range. Drew is gone after one year, Bogaerts may not stay at short, and Iglesias still can't hit. Maybe Holt can be the shortstop of the future. What will he amount to? What will his role be in 2013 and beyond? Do you like the acquisition of him? "Iglesias still can't hit". So, on a SSS you conclude he can't hit. Wouldn't it be better to say that this 22 year old has not yet hit at the major league level? Jose hit .264 for almost an entire season at AAA last year. Does this say he is incapable of hitting? I grant you that he may never be above .300 for his career. This kid has outstanding talent and is working hard to improve his offense. Don't count him out. Yes,Holt looks like a good backup at second and short.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 15:42:27 GMT -5
Derek Jeter did
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Post by bluechip on Dec 27, 2012 16:02:45 GMT -5
Martin Prado type super-sub ceiling. I would not count on him being as good as Prado, just a guy who can play second and third with good average and little power/speed. Those guys have value.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 27, 2012 16:05:57 GMT -5
What will he amount to? Utilityman who could hit his way into more playing time.
What will his role be in 2013 and beyond? Compete with Ciriaco for Utility Infielders Spot but most likely starting 2B in AAA to start the year.
Do you like the acquisition? Yes, good organizational depth. Quality defender with strong arm that can hit
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 27, 2012 16:23:49 GMT -5
Based on what I've heard, the ceiling is starting MLB 2B, but the defensive tools aren't there for him to play short full time - he's kind of overmatched there. He's more a guy that can play a below average SS if you need him to and he won't kill you.
Like some have said, fits best as a bench bat backing up the middle infield on this team, and were Pedroia to get hurt, you could do worse than Holt as an injury fill-in. He also fits with the offseason trend of the team acquiring great clubhouse guys. After the trade, one scout described him as "my boy Brock Holt."
Finally, while we lose Stolmy, at least the club has replaced him with another great baseball name. Couldn't you just see "Brock Holt" on a 1980s baseball card?
He'll be on the I-95 shuttle this year because he has all three options remaining, but I'm sure we'll see him at some point.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Dec 27, 2012 16:35:27 GMT -5
Holt is a nice pick-up. I love it that he bats left-handed and has 3 options left.
I believe he will head to Pawtucket for a couple of months unless there is an injury. Ciraco will most probably be the utility guy. Holt will play some short and 2nd, and I bet get some time at 3rd. One thing Ciraco does well, I believe, is play third well. His speed is a big plus too.
Hope I'm wrong, but I think the ML pitchers will catch up to him big time and probably show his many weaknesses......like swinging real early in the count. If this happens, and Holt is raking in AAA, look for the Sox to bring him up.
This kid does get on base at a great clip, and at 25 is still a decent prospect. Nice depth deal.
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Post by remember04 on Dec 27, 2012 17:13:56 GMT -5
Along with having Holt try 3B in the minors I wonder if they may have him try some outfield positions to increase his value to the team? I've long wanted a true super utility guy who can do everything but pitch and catch but who just doesn't have enough to start at any one place.
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Post by hammerhead on Dec 27, 2012 17:19:20 GMT -5
I could see Holt and Ciriaco being a passable platoon if Drew , Pedroia or WMB get hurt. Iggy would obviously have the first chance as a SS injury replacement, but they may not want to call him up for a 2week stint.
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Post by lancect on Dec 27, 2012 17:27:07 GMT -5
With no real starter at first base in AAA, he should get some starts there as well
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Post by jioh on Dec 27, 2012 17:55:18 GMT -5
With no real starter at first base in AAA, he should get some starts there as well Height: 5' 10"
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Post by stevedillard on Dec 27, 2012 18:02:35 GMT -5
He'll never be half the player his brother Steve is.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 27, 2012 18:36:32 GMT -5
Holt's got some Jamey Carroll in him. Good approach, great discipline, solid contact skills, limited power. His scouting reports indicate he might not be quite the defensive player that Carroll is, but that's a solid player. He's an upgrade from DeJesus as a utilityman, and could probably be a second division starter within a year or so. They obviously aren't similar, but Prince Fielder is only 5'10 or 5'11. Just posting a dudes height is a pretty silly way to indicate that he shouldn't be playing a position. As a utility player, the more positions he can play the better. Finally, while we lose Stolmy, at least the club has replaced him with another great baseball name. Couldn't you just see "Brock Holt" on a 1980s baseball card? Yes. "Brock Holt" definitely should've been the name of the 1987 Texas Rangers third baseman, with apologies to Steve Buechele.
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Post by Chris Mellen on Dec 27, 2012 19:04:45 GMT -5
I've seen Brock Holt the last couple of seasons in the Eastern League. The defense is limited at shortstop and he profiles much better at second base. As Hatfield mentioned, he's the type that can fill in at short in a pinch or for a small spurt at the big league level and pass, but not over a longer stretch. The bat overall is about fringe-average and doesn't stack up well against high quality big league stuff, but plays off the bench enough to profile as a ultility/depth type. The ability to make consistent hard contact is what lacks.
Holt's a good depth addition to the middle infield in Triple-A and someone to bring up-and-down when needed. Much better than Ivan DeJesus as that option in my opinion.
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Post by elguapo on Dec 27, 2012 20:04:55 GMT -5
If his arm strength is reportedly a weakness at SS is he even an option at third?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 27, 2012 20:16:21 GMT -5
If his arm strength is reportedly a weakness at SS is he even an option at third? It's not simply an arm strength thing. It's his defensive tools in total.
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Post by elguapo on Dec 27, 2012 20:49:36 GMT -5
If his arm strength is reportedly a weakness at SS is he even an option at third? It's not simply an arm strength thing. It's his defensive tools in total. If he can play a decent 2nd I'd figure he can handle 3rd - except for the arm.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 27, 2012 21:58:27 GMT -5
Ohhhhhhh. Gotcha.
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Post by remember04 on Dec 28, 2012 12:47:54 GMT -5
Great, our third baseman has to hit the cut off man on any throw to first.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Dec 28, 2012 12:53:16 GMT -5
I'm very much a Ciriaco skeptic, so I think Brock Holt! fills a need for an infield utility guy. Plus with all three options, he's a good value for years to come ...
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