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Post by grandsalami on Jul 5, 2016 15:55:45 GMT -5
Red Sox will have Brian Bannister in uniform for the rest of the season to assist pitching coach Carl Willis before and after games. He will watch games from the clubhouse and be more hands-on with the pitchers. Bannister, a second-generation former big-league pitcher, was brought in last season in an analytical role. Played a big role in revival of Rich Hill's career.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 5, 2016 16:16:16 GMT -5
Willis is on thin ice IMO
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 5, 2016 16:17:43 GMT -5
Scott Lauber
ESPN Staff Writer
Part of the Red Sox's decision to put Brian Bannister in uniform before games was driven by the pitchers' desire for more analytical Pitch/FX data, according to manager John Farrell.
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Post by jdb on Jul 5, 2016 16:17:54 GMT -5
What exactly has he been doing up until now?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 5, 2016 16:28:19 GMT -5
Maybe Bannister can help with bullpen usage too. Could be the biggest trade deadline upgrade.
Did anyone actually ask Farrell why Koji pitched 3 of the last 4 days when they had a 5 run lead for the last 2 days? That doesn't take Bannister to fix, but come on.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 5, 2016 16:30:13 GMT -5
Excellent news. I haven't watched a lot this year, but would anyone argue with the assertion that the team doesn't appear to be outsmarting anyone with pitch-calling? To me, the numbers of times that opposing hitters seemed to have guessed correctly and hit a good pitch seems to exceed the number of times they were fooled by something that surprised both them and the announcers.
Note that they can still do all the work to do it old-school a la Varitek, and get nowhere, because other teams will be analyzing the resulting patterns and making them considerably more predictable than they would have been before pitch/fx. Not to mention that teams doing analytics have data on just how to change eye levels most effectively, how to "tunnel" different pitches (knowing which pitches in an arsenal have the same initial arc and exploit the confusion), and so on.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 5, 2016 16:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 5, 2016 16:48:41 GMT -5
What exactly has he been doing up until now? Been all over the east coach with the minor league teams, breaking down pitchers for the draft, etc. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 5, 2016 16:51:01 GMT -5
Hembree didn't pitch since Saturday. Kimbrel didn't pitch since Friday. Layne didn't pitch Saturday, but pitched Sunday. Uehara pitching 3 out of 4 days, with the last 2 games, entering with 5 run leads is pure insanity. Why is Uehara getting sacrificed? They could have left Barnes in too.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jul 5, 2016 17:16:27 GMT -5
I think that he will be trying to get into Buchholz's head. He worked with Johnson and time will tell how that worked, but Buchholz needs psychological help.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 5, 2016 18:52:25 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ESPN Staff Writer Part of the Red Sox's decision to put Brian Bannister in uniform before games was driven by the pitchers' desire for more analytical Pitch/FX data, according to manager John Farrell. Kind of embarrassing that in a supposedly smart organization that the pitchers actually had to ask for this. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 5, 2016 21:14:58 GMT -5
I think that he will be trying to get into Buchholz's head. He worked with Johnson and time will tell how that worked, but Buchholz needs psychological help. Are you confusing Bannister with Bob Tewksbury? |
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Post by thursty on Jul 5, 2016 21:44:56 GMT -5
I don't know who served as the driver for this, but kudos to them and to the pitchers who God forbid, want more information
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 27, 2016 2:27:21 GMT -5
Before and after Bannister (July 5), for our four post-season starters.
David Price
GS BA OBP SA ERA ERA- FIP- xFIP- BABIP HR/FB
17 .260 .308 .427 4.74 107 84 76 .323 .155
16 .245 .281 .386 3.10 70 76 84 .294 .100
Rick Porcello
GS BA OBP SA ERA ERA- FIP- xFIP- BABIP HR/FB
17 .256 .306 .410 3.82 86 91 93 .299 .120
15 .198 .222 .316 2.43 55 69 88 .232 .071
Eduardo Rodriguez
GS BA OBP SA ERA ERA- FIP- xFIP- BABIP HR/FB
6 .315 .372 .621 8.59 193 165 135 .316 .184
13 .213 .279 .340 3.10 70 84 103 .256 .077
Clay Buchholz
GS BA OBP SA ERA ERA- FIP- xFIP- BABIP HR/FB
13 .269 .348 .482 5.91 133 143 129 .272 .159
7 .238 .302 .347 3.59 81 93 124 .264 .054
What's remarkable is that Price, Porcello, and Buchholz collectively have barely improved their xFIP-. But across the board there's been an amazing improvement in preventing hard contact.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 27, 2016 2:38:09 GMT -5
Brian Bannister for President.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 27, 2016 17:06:03 GMT -5
Not one Red Sox reporter talks about this helping turn the staff around but it was panned by them at the time. Excellent call by DD and the FO. Also He kept him around and made a position for him. I guess this type of job you don't see immediate results ,as long as you see results.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 27, 2016 17:09:45 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ESPN Staff Writer Part of the Red Sox's decision to put Brian Bannister in uniform before games was driven by the pitchers' desire for more analytical Pitch/FX data, according to manager John Farrell. Kind of embarrassing that in a supposedly smart organization that the pitchers actually had to ask for this. They were a smart organization to hire him in the first place. I am all for supporting the players on this, they decide the team's fate, but this is weird to me, for some reason. |
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 27, 2016 22:18:38 GMT -5
Not one Red Sox reporter talks about this helping turn the staff around but it was panned by them at the time. Excellent call by DD and the FO. Also He kept him around and made a position for him. I guess this type of job you don't see immediate results ,as long as you see results. I e-mailed Shaughnessy, who had all but mocked it, with an explanation / example of what Bannister would be doing (analyzing pitch sequences so we wouldn't be too predictable in the first inning), and he e-mailed back "Agree." Unlike some of his colleagues, he is open-minded and willing to learn. |
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