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Post by telson13 on Aug 2, 2016 1:48:59 GMT -5
Betts, Bradley and Benintendi Killer Bs or Triple Bs? They'd have to be the Killer Bs (Killers B?) version 2.0. If Benintendi's run in the minors this year is any indication, they could be the Tripling Bs. I thought B.B.B. Kings. Whatever you want to call them, they're 1/3 of the Boston Bomb Squad. If Benintendi pulls a 2015 Corey Seager, people are gonna lose their minds. Here's to the most talented Sox OF since Rice-Lynn-Evans.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 2, 2016 1:50:08 GMT -5
BRENTZ LIVES!! “@ianmbrowne: Michael Martinez just headed to Farrell ‘s office, so he will go to make room for Benintendi.” I wouldn't count on him living too long. The Sox still need to make room for Abad.
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Post by cto94 on Aug 2, 2016 2:00:16 GMT -5
Funny, I loved his small moves (Ziegler and Hill especially), but this is my favorite. I don't expect Benintendi to set the world on fire, but I think his defense, and the ability to use Holt as a true superutility, will make a big difference. I have zero concern regarding the CF-LF switch. I always prefer internal fixes--trusting the guys you have--over trying to make a splash. Part of why I disliked the Pomeranz acquisition so much...Rodriguez has looked sharp and Pomeranz is doing his best bad-Clay impression. With good-Clay peeking around the corner, I'd've preferred DD stand pat. Regardless, this is a better overall move than any LF pickup they could've made, especially if Young comes back and gets up to speed quickly. I have a feeling that Benintendi may struggle for 100 AB or so, but come the end of September, I think he should be a real contributor. Ok I'm on board with pretty much everything you said, but can we not pretend that Buchholz throwing 3 innings of good relief and Pomeranz sandwiching 1 good start between 2 good ones means that Pomeranz isn't an upgrade to the rotation? No matter how much you or anyone loves Espinoza, there is no way that Dombrowski could've made that bet rationally. There's not even anything in Buchholz's peripherals that indicates bad luck. We needed an improvement, Dombrowski got one (whatever your claims are about Pomeranz doing a "bad Clay" impression, bad Clay means getting shelled every single time out basically) and you are free to hate the price, but the idea that we/he should have stood pat and waited for Clay and Eduardo to return to form is a little ridiculous. All that aside, the only real concern I have with Benintendi is learning to play the monster. Otherwise, with his approach in a deep lineup, I think he should handle the transition well, though I think we can expect him to take his lumps in the early going
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 2, 2016 5:20:04 GMT -5
Who's the last position player to get to MLB this quickly for us?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2016 5:23:52 GMT -5
BRENTZ LIVES!! “@ianmbrowne: Michael Martinez just headed to Farrell ‘s office, so he will go to make room for Benintendi.” I wouldn't count on him living too long. The Sox still need to make room for Abad. It makes more sense to DFA Martinez than optioning Brentz because this gives Holt more infield ABs.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 2, 2016 5:26:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't count on him living too long. The Sox still need to make room for Abad. It makes more sense to DFA Martinez than optioning Brentz because this gives Holt more infield ABs. Ohh I know. Just pointing out that Brentz can literally be gone by today or tomorrow when Abad is finally added to the roster.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2016 5:28:22 GMT -5
Who's the last position player to get to MLB this quickly for us?
It has been a long time since the Red Sox had a position player reach the majors only a season after being drafted. The most recent occurrence was when the Red Sox called up 1973 second-round pick Fred Lynn in September of 1974. Lynn was outstanding in 15 games that fall before winning the Most Valuable Player award the following year.
news.soxprospects.com/2016/08/transaction-analysis-breaking-down_2.html
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 6:28:35 GMT -5
BRENTZ LIVES!! “@ianmbrowne: Michael Martinez just headed to Farrell ‘s office, so he will go to make room for Benintendi.” I wouldn't count on him living too long. The Sox still need to make room for Abad. There is no room for both Layne and Abad on this team. Brentz probably stays until Young gets back.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 2, 2016 6:29:30 GMT -5
I find this extremely surprising but DD is clearly in win now. Dam the torpedos. Full steam ahead...etc. Personally, I wish we could give him more time in the minors but maybe they want to acclimate him to mlb in time for the playoffs, when they think he might make a difference this year. Maybe they are right. They have made lots of other solid moves to put us strongly in the playoff mix. This team really should make the playoffs. If we are truly going to optimize our chances this year maybe we should be bringing him up. But he had almost no time in LF so far correct? What if we do have an injury in the OF? For example if we lose Betts. That could make a huge difference on this team. Maybe resting Betts for a while gets him healthy for the playoffs. I don't actually like this but I've loved all of DD's other deals so far. It must be something I'm not seeing. Funny, I loved his small moves (Ziegler and Hill especially), but this is my favorite. I don't expect Benintendi to set the world on fire, but I think his defense, and the ability to use Holt as a true superutility, will make a big difference. I have zero concern regarding the CF-LF switch. I always prefer internal fixes--trusting the guys you have--over trying to make a splash. Part of why I disliked the Pomeranz acquisition so much...Rodriguez has looked sharp and Pomeranz is doing his best bad-Clay impression. With good-Clay peeking around the corner, I'd've preferred DD stand pat. Regardless, this is a better overall move than any LF pickup they could've made, especially if Young comes back and gets up to speed quickly. I have a feeling that Benintendi may struggle for 100 AB or so, but come the end of September, I think he should be a real contributor. Pomeranz was not well known and therefore its obvious it was not done merely to make a big splash that could have been done with Sale but he chose not to. And regarding Clay he needs to do more than peek around corners and if he (or Erod or Owens or Johnson or Kelly) had done his job or anything close to it, the Pomeranz deal doesn't happen.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 2, 2016 6:31:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't count on him living too long. The Sox still need to make room for Abad. There is no room for both Layne and Abad on this team. Brentz probably stays until Young gets back. The team can carry a three man bench and 3 lefties in the bullpen. It's not out of the question. Holt gives the team a option of allowing a three man bench due to his versatility.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 6:34:06 GMT -5
There is no room for both Layne and Abad on this team. Brentz probably stays until Young gets back. The team can carry a three man bench and 3 lefties in the bullpen. It's not out of the question. They should carry a 4th outfielder though other than Holt. I shudder to think of how this team could get two LOOGYs enough appearances. The problem is that we don't have any relief pitchers with big platoon splits vs. RHB, so they may as well pitch full innings.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 2, 2016 6:40:40 GMT -5
The team can carry a three man bench and 3 lefties in the bullpen. It's not out of the question. They should carry a 4th outfielder though other than Holt. I shudder to think of how this team could get two LOOGYs enough appearances. The problem is that we don't have any relief pitchers with big platoon splits vs. RHB, so they may as well pitch full innings. Abad to me is more than just a loogy. Rhb are hitting .257/.360/.351 line off Abad this year. He's not getting hit hard against RHB. The only concern is the walks really. I like the ability to mix and match. The Sox have some ability to do that with Barnes, Layne, Abad, and Ziegler. I exclude Ross Jr and Tazawa because I think they can get anyone out.
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Post by rookie13 on Aug 2, 2016 6:56:14 GMT -5
Not sure I agree with them platooning him. Can't imagine it'll last long if he goes on a streak, or Brentz continues to be terrible
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 7:05:05 GMT -5
They should carry a 4th outfielder though other than Holt. I shudder to think of how this team could get two LOOGYs enough appearances. The problem is that we don't have any relief pitchers with big platoon splits vs. RHB, so they may as well pitch full innings. Abad to me is more than just a loogy. Rhb are hitting .257/.360/.351 line off Abad this year. He's not getting hit hard against RHB. The only concern is the walks really. I like the ability to mix and match. The Sox have some ability to do that with Barnes, Layne, Abad, and Ziegler. I exclude Ross Jr and Tazawa because I think they can get anyone out. I'm afraid that Farrell will think he's more than a LOOGY also. He has a 4.60 xFIP vs. RHB this year, which is about what he's been in his career.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Aug 2, 2016 7:14:30 GMT -5
Betts, Bradley and Benintendi Killer Bs or Triple Bs? Not Triple B's. That's just a mediocre bond. How about JAM B's? And what's wrong with a Benintendi/Brentz platoon? Who would have wanted AB to get his first AB's against Paxton last night? A platoon would mean AB gets the majority of the starts? Out of curiosity, what are AB's minor league lefty/righty splits? EDIT: Decided to stop being a doofus and look it up myself. He's been fine against lefties, but of course they haven't been Major league lefties. I have no problem with having Brentz/Young take some starts against southpaws. I think the big question with AB is how well he'll acclimate himself generally. Don't want his development stunted by a Pedroia-like start. Of course, if he has the same self-confidence Pedroia had/has ..... but how many guys have that?
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 2, 2016 7:18:54 GMT -5
Fun times for everyone.
Welcome!
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Post by Canseco on Aug 2, 2016 7:29:49 GMT -5
Love it. All systems go, boys!
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 2, 2016 8:10:39 GMT -5
There is almost no way that they had him skip AAA and called him right up to the majors to sit on the bench. Come on now I would hope not but do you honestly trust Farrell at this point? welcome to the Board. You're just what it needs, another kick -the-manager-to-the-curb contributor.
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Post by malynn19 on Aug 2, 2016 8:19:56 GMT -5
Congrats Benni, Welcome to Boston. Now I hope he gets his At Bats (like he would be in AAA), JF better not platoon him or use him to pinch hit/run, let him play.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 2, 2016 8:25:17 GMT -5
I shudder to think of how this team could get two LOOGYs enough appearances. The problem is that we don't have any relief pitchers with big platoon splits vs. RHB, so they may as well pitch full innings. Well, except Ziegler, but yeah.
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Post by Smittyw on Aug 2, 2016 8:32:20 GMT -5
Betts, Bradley and Benintendi Killer Bs or Triple Bs? They'd have to be the Killer Bs (Killers B?) version 2.0. If Benintendi's run in the minors this year is any indication, they could be the Tripling Bs. I thought B.B.B. Kings. Whatever you want to call them, they're 1/3 of the Boston Bomb Squad. If Benintendi pulls a 2015 Corey Seager, people are gonna lose their minds. Here's to the most talented Sox OF since Rice-Lynn-Evans.
There should be a bonus in Yoan's next contract if he will legally change his name to "Boncada."
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Post by bsout2 on Aug 2, 2016 9:11:00 GMT -5
Serious question. Does Benintendi coming up the day AFTER the deadline mean that he was available for a big trade over the last 48 hours? If they were going to call him tonight, why not have called him up last night for the opener with Seattle?
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 2, 2016 9:24:37 GMT -5
Serious question. Does Benintendi coming up the day AFTER the deadline mean that he was available for a big trade over the last 48 hours? If they were going to call him tonight, why not have called him up last night for the opener with Seattle? I'm pretty sure it just means they hadn't completely ruled out trading for an OF.
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Post by jmei on Aug 2, 2016 10:12:50 GMT -5
Serious question. Does Benintendi coming up the day AFTER the deadline mean that he was available for a big trade over the last 48 hours? If they were going to call him tonight, why not have called him up last night for the opener with Seattle? On one hand, that's what immediately came to my mind as well. The timing of his call-up suggests that he may have been involved in trade talks or that they may have pursued trading for an external left fielder. If you aren't going to give him at least a significant chunk of playing time the rest of the season or if they were going to trade him, adding him to the 40-man would just take up a 40-man spot and start his option clock early. On the other hand, they were facing Paxton last night, which means he probably wouldn't have started anyways. Of course, they're facing another lefty tonight, and it sounds like he won't get a start until tomorrow, so that's a slightly less plausible explanation. I do think the trade deadline had something to do with it-- it doesn't mean he was shopped or that they were looking to move him, but why not just wait an extra day just in case something unexpected turns up.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 2, 2016 10:20:09 GMT -5
Another possibility is that he was raking so much last week they just decided that it was time, largely independent of the trading deadline. The gradual improvement, culminating in just making Double-A pitching looking stupid, combined with the positional need all happened to come together now.
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