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Andrew Benintendi called up to join the Major League team
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Post by scarr0214 on Aug 6, 2016 10:40:04 GMT -5
Do you think we can get #ABneedsABs trending? This is excellent. If he doesn't start today against a rookie RH then when can you play him??
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 6, 2016 11:13:32 GMT -5
Pedroia will probably sit out today after fouling a ball off his foot. That would put Holt at 2b instead of LF and most likely Benintendi in LF.
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Post by klostrophobic on Aug 6, 2016 11:23:16 GMT -5
It's a single week where they are trying to get him used to travel, media, routine, and ml talent. It's just not a big deal. But this board is bow dominated by hyperbole. With the call up, his season was just extended a full month, plus whatever potential playoff games he gets into. So yeah if he sits a few games it's probably not a terrible thing. He's at 100 games played as of now and if he plays half the remaining games he's up to 125 or so. Far more than he's ever played before.
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Post by barney27 on Aug 6, 2016 18:48:24 GMT -5
playing beni now sets up a lot of things for now and the future. His defense is probably better right now then anyone they have. His track record shows he makes consistent contact and does not strikeout a lot. He may show enough that there is no need to pick up another outfielder this winter. If he turns out to be another jbj type then have a solid player for this year. you have options to make a trade for a starter. Lots options open up.
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Post by glassox on Aug 6, 2016 20:17:32 GMT -5
I really love this website but I can't stand how much people criticize every move. So what if he doesn't start every game, he is spending time with one of the greatest left handed hitters of all time. I bet he also plays more games this year than his previously high. Do we want to run him out there every time against tough lefties? Do we really want him used as a pinch hitter late in games like last night as people were calling for in the gameday thread? I believe confidence is very important and would rather not rush him into games. Where u from, Detriot? It's Boston, your d@mn right were complaining about every move. Last night's LHP was giving it up to left handed batters at a .300 clip. No need to sit the kid last night. No i'm for Iowa where we don't point out every time someone, in your opinion, fails. It doesn't help growth and sure makes you look like you have nothing but negativity or stubbornness to add to a conversations. Even after the fact that Bryce Brentz went 1 for 2 against that lefty you think they handled it wrong.
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Post by scarr0214 on Aug 7, 2016 2:08:50 GMT -5
Where u from, Detriot? It's Boston, your d@mn right were complaining about every move. Last night's LHP was giving it up to left handed batters at a .300 clip. No need to sit the kid last night. No i'm for Iowa where we don't point out every time someone, in your opinion, fails. It doesn't help growth and sure makes you look like you have nothing but negativity or stubbornness to add to a conversations. Even after the fact that Bryce Brentz went 1 for 2 against that lefty you think they handled it wrong. Here in Boston if we feel that something was done wrong we voice it. There's no such thing as blindly agreeing with any move the team makes. There is a thread about the Sox claiming a backup catcher. We care. That's why Benintendi not playing everyday is an issue with those of us who think he belongs in the lineup. Sightinga 1-2 from Brentz is not understanding the point. The point is someone like Brentzwho has no future with this team should not be getting ABs that could go to Benintendi, a potential future cornerstone of this franchise.
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Post by dangermike on Aug 7, 2016 3:02:38 GMT -5
While I do think posters on this board get a little whacky with overreactions... isn't this a Boston Red Sox prospect website? It would make sense if people who regularly comment on this board would have a little more interest in Benintendi getting ABs than almost any other site.
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Post by barney27 on Aug 7, 2016 8:13:06 GMT -5
While I do think posters on this board get a little whacky with overreactions... isn't this a Boston Red Sox prospect website? It would make sense if people who regularly comment on this board would have a little more interest in Benintendi getting ABs than almost any other site. The sox are in a playoff berth race. Based on what happen to jbj a couple of years ago, I think that the sox are slow pedaling his playing time. I think they have the opportunity to pick and choose when he plays. It also may be an audition for September call up and a possible trade over the winter. The trade may involve beni or maybe not. Maybe they leave beni back in AAA for another season and sign someone like riddeck to play outfield. Give the team and beni a chance to see what happens, he has only played a few games.
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Post by soxjim on Aug 7, 2016 11:43:26 GMT -5
While I do think posters on this board get a little whacky with overreactions... isn't this a Boston Red Sox prospect website? It would make sense if people who regularly comment on this board would have a little more interest in Benintendi getting ABs than almost any other site. The sox are in a playoff berth race. Based on what happen to jbj a couple of years ago, I think that the sox are slow pedaling his playing time. I think they have the opportunity to pick and choose when he plays. It also may be an audition for September call up and a possible trade over the winter. The trade may involve beni or maybe not. Maybe they leave beni back in AAA for another season and sign someone like riddeck to play outfield. Give the team and beni a chance to see what happens, he has only played a few games. I'm not saying he is-- but what if you think Beni is ready and he is going to be more like Mookie and Shaw as an impact?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 7, 2016 14:24:07 GMT -5
No i'm for Iowa where we don't point out every time someone, in your opinion, fails. It doesn't help growth and sure makes you look like you have nothing but negativity or stubbornness to add to a conversations. Even after the fact that Bryce Brentz went 1 for 2 against that lefty you think they handled it wrong. Here in Boston if we feel that something was done wrong we voice it. There's no such thing as blindly agreeing with any move the team makes. There is a thread about the Sox claiming a backup catcher. We care. That's why Benintendi not playing everyday is an issue with those of us who think he belongs in the lineup. Sightinga 1-2 from Brentz is not understanding the point. The point is someone like Brentzwho has no future with this team should not be getting ABs that could go to Benintendi, a potential future cornerstone of this franchise. Speak for yourself, pal.
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Post by barney27 on Aug 7, 2016 16:38:01 GMT -5
If dd and Farrell among others think he is ready I am sure he will get his chance. Passion for the sox is great. Brentz may be in a situation to be auditioned. Do not know why the sox do what they do.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 7, 2016 21:12:26 GMT -5
I for one thought benintendi needed a month in Pawtucket before going to Boston, but maybe I was wrong.
He looks like he belongs.
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Post by pasadenasox on Aug 7, 2016 21:41:48 GMT -5
But, still, play him regularly or send him down. This is August, not September.
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Post by soxjim on Aug 7, 2016 22:57:35 GMT -5
Play Beni more over Brentz.
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Post by barney27 on Aug 8, 2016 6:33:13 GMT -5
I agree they need to get a good look at him. He appears to be the real deal. Does not look like much power but very solid singles doubles type hitter. Wait another week or so and see how he adjusts to the pitching once they get a little bit of a book on him.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 8, 2016 10:01:33 GMT -5
My god. The kid has been up for 6 games. He's gotten ABs in 5 of them including 2 the first night when he wasn't even supposed to play. Anyone who is upset now, let alone 2 days ago is taking crazy pills. Don't play the "this is Boston card". If anything Boston fans are supposed to be smart. The kid just got the call and had to go out West and meet up with the team and deal with all the adjustments including personal stuff and we are upset he's only played 5 of 6 games? Show some patience. He's probably going to start all 3 against the Yankees and get increasingly more ABs vs left handed pitching.
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Post by mandelbro on Aug 8, 2016 10:23:26 GMT -5
My god. The kid has been up for 6 games. He's gotten ABs in 5 of them including 2 the first night when he wasn't even supposed to play. Anyone who is upset now, let alone 2 days ago is taking crazy pills. Don't play the "this is Boston card". If anything Boston fans are supposed to be smart. The kid just got the call and had to go out West and meet up with the team and deal with all the adjustments including personal stuff and we are upset he's only played 5 of 6 games? Show some patience. He's probably going to start all 3 against the Yankees and get increasingly more ABs vs left handed pitching. Its not like they are killing themselves by playing Brentz either. He's got fine AAA numbers versus LHP and his SSS slash line in the big leagues so far (.286/.333/.405) is in line with that.
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Post by jimoh on Aug 8, 2016 10:29:41 GMT -5
My god. The kid has been up for 6 games. He's gotten ABs in 5 of them including 2 the first night when he wasn't even supposed to play. Anyone who is upset now, let alone 2 days ago is taking crazy pills. Don't play the "this is Boston card". If anything Boston fans are supposed to be smart. The kid just got the call and had to go out West and meet up with the team and deal with all the adjustments including personal stuff and we are upset he's only played 5 of 6 games? Show some patience. He's probably going to start all 3 against the Yankees and get increasingly more ABs vs left handed pitching. Its not like they are killing themselves by playing Brentz either. He's got fine AAA numbers versus LHP and his SSS slash line in the big leagues so far (.286/.333/.405) is in line with that. Woah, two sensible posts in a row. I come here expecting to see hyperbole, lamentation, endless repetition, and posters talking about themselves, not these "facts" and "analysis".
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 8, 2016 14:51:13 GMT -5
I love it. They believe if you kick *** in AA you can go up to the big leagues. I bet Moncada is about a month away. Solid moves.thank you for keeping these kids. I want to amend this for Moncada to be up with the team in late August not September. I believe we need there energy for the additional road trips. I am worried about Ortiz. That's our last bullet for the lineup. I also feel ,look at the tight games we lose, it seems like there is too many lost oppurtunities. A kid like this could be electric.I know we will be okay at home but we have a monster couple of trips coming up. We need to start winning these close games. One more thing on the Baseball show Betts needs to move off of leadoff, He is on fire and needs to move maybe three or two. Just switch up the top three. Petey is hitting into to many 5-4-3's. He can lead off for now. Second option Benny and if he gets the call Moncada. Lets go. Its obvious we cant count on a Price number one type of starts.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 8, 2016 17:40:13 GMT -5
Its not like they are killing themselves by playing Brentz either. He's got fine AAA numbers versus LHP and his SSS slash line in the big leagues so far (.286/.333/.405) is in line with that. Woah, two sensible posts in a row. I come here expecting to see hyperbole, lamentation, endless repetition, and posters talking about themselves, not these "facts" and "analysis". I haven't really understood the angst about Benintendi sitting some at first. I get it, they want him to have some success, and probably see how he handles better command, better breaking stuff, more complex sequencing, etc. If (once) they feel like he's adjusting well (which is a pretty steep learning curve), they'll add pitchers coming from the left to the equation. FWIW, it sounds like that may be soon: www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2016/08/red_sox_notes_andrew_benintendi_closes_in_on_more_playing_time. I don't have a problem with bringing him along a little slowly at first, avoiding asking him to do too much and then having him mess with his swing/approach because he's pressing. He's looked good so far, and the short porch in RF in Yankee Stadium hopefully sees his first MLB HR(s). As a side note, I'm not sold in Moncada coming up yet. His K rate is high, and I'm a little nervous that he Javier Baezes. We'll see...Id prefer they bring him up at the end of the AA season.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 8, 2016 18:24:01 GMT -5
Woah, two sensible posts in a row. I come here expecting to see hyperbole, lamentation, endless repetition, and posters talking about themselves, not these "facts" and "analysis". I haven't really understood the angst about Benintendi sitting some at first. I get it, they want him to have some success, and probably see how he handles better command, better breaking stuff, more complex sequencing, etc. If (once) they feel like he's adjusting well (which is a pretty steep learning curve), they'll add pitchers coming from the left to the equation. FWIW, it sounds like that may be soon: www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2016/08/red_sox_notes_andrew_benintendi_closes_in_on_more_playing_time. I don't have a problem with bringing him along a little slowly at first, avoiding asking him to do too much and then having him mess with his swing/approach because he's pressing. He's looked good so far, and the short porch in RF in Yankee Stadium hopefully sees his first MLB HR(s). As a side note, I'm not sold in Moncada coming up yet. His K rate is high, and I'm a little nervous that he Javier Baezes. We'll see...Id prefer they bring him up at the end of the AA season. He did get a hit off a lefty last night.
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Post by mandelbro on Aug 8, 2016 20:24:24 GMT -5
Last night was a good example of why it would be crazy to promote Moncada from AA to the big leagues. Holt is making errors at third base, can you imagine what Moncada would do/not do?
Yoan is an awesome prospect but his plate approach and his defense are both a work in progress. Let him figure it out and use Holt, or if necessary Marco Hernandez, until then.
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Post by soxjim on Aug 8, 2016 20:39:18 GMT -5
I know some are saying be patient. And others are saying Brentz isn't that bad. All are true. However---- the Red Sox sort of threw patience out the window with their moves such as trading for Kimbrel and trading for Pomeranz. I understand these guys are here for another 2 years, but overall this team isn't looking to be totally/completely patient.
With that said Brentz isn't that bad but he's not very good either. With runners in scoring position his numbers are .286/.286/.357/.643. While it's been only 14 at bats - he has struck out 6 times without drawing a walk. From the games I've watched and we need rbi's in tight situations he just looks overmatched. And if you are playing with a sense of urgency/trying to win, why should there be a split? Though Beni has been and will continue to get most at bats- I'm not complaining over that. But just making a point that Brentz hasn't been that good even if other numbers show different.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 8, 2016 21:25:10 GMT -5
I haven't really understood the angst about Benintendi sitting some at first. I get it, they want him to have some success, and probably see how he handles better command, better breaking stuff, more complex sequencing, etc. If (once) they feel like he's adjusting well (which is a pretty steep learning curve), they'll add pitchers coming from the left to the equation. FWIW, it sounds like that may be soon: www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2016/08/red_sox_notes_andrew_benintendi_closes_in_on_more_playing_time. I don't have a problem with bringing him along a little slowly at first, avoiding asking him to do too much and then having him mess with his swing/approach because he's pressing. He's looked good so far, and the short porch in RF in Yankee Stadium hopefully sees his first MLB HR(s). As a side note, I'm not sold in Moncada coming up yet. His K rate is high, and I'm a little nervous that he Javier Baezes. We'll see...Id prefer they bring him up at the end of the AA season. He did get a hit off a lefty last night. And his minor league platoon splits say it's not necessary (or even helpful). But it never seemed like all that big of a deal to me.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 9, 2016 7:56:20 GMT -5
I know some are saying be patient. And others are saying Brentz isn't that bad. All are true. However---- the Red Sox sort of threw patience out the window with their moves such as trading for Kimbrel and trading for Pomeranz. I understand these guys are here for another 2 years, but overall this team isn't looking to be totally/completely patient. With that said Brentz isn't that bad but he's not very good either. With runners in scoring position his numbers are .286/.286/.357/.643. While it's been only 14 at bats - he has struck out 6 times without drawing a walk. From the games I've watched and we need rbi's in tight situations he just looks overmatched. And if you are playing with a sense of urgency/trying to win, why should there be a split? Though Beni has been and will continue to get most at bats- I'm not complaining over that. But just making a point that Brentz hasn't been that good even if other numbers show different. SIX GAMES. There is no trend yet. It's SIX games. The kid like anyone needs to adjust. Going to a major league team, especially for a top prospect, isn't just walking on to the field. There's a lot of hoopla he needs to deal with and getting your feet wet and watching and absorbing it is useful both long term and short term. What good does it do if you throw a kid in there and he struggles because you never gave him a chance to mentally prepare and get adjusted? By the way, he's been in 5 games and of those 5 I know they lost at least 3 of them. It's meaningless but I only bring it up because people seem to think they have suffered somehow in this six game stretch by him not having even more at bats. By the way, no one is really arguing they don't want him playing every day. We are just saying it's his first six games and there's an easing in period. It's similar to a starter ramping up his innings but for different reasons. Remember pitchers get those days off to mentally adjust to major league life. The manager has already talked about his playing time increasing. There is a ton to complain about with this team but the usage of Benintendi is not even close to one of them after 6 games.
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